The Living Will?...

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After being in the hospital several times since last year...I was asked each time "Do you have a Living Will"?.....:aw:

So finally, I went to the Library and got 5 copies, (free)...gave 2 to friends, and the rest to family members...My bank charged me zero to notorize....

So the next time when I'm asked that quesdtion...I can say..."Yes, I do"!...and have one in my Wallet....
 
we did ours i gave copy to my son he can get on with it when i gone...dont want think about them anymore...i had go solicitor cost 200quid that about 150dollors i think....bloody robbery
 
I have had a conversation with my kids about what the final days of my life might mean to me. Told them that I can be happy, sitting and looking out a window. However, I have to be able to see out the window. They seemed genuinely relieved by that.

I'm not a lawyer but I think that much of the living will thing is for the great benefit of the health care and insurance people. When God, known by the "MD" behind his name, makes a decision - things can happen with a flick of a switch. I got a lot of pressure regarding a living will when my wife was seriously ill and I didn't really appreciate it. (She's doing fine these days.)

My father, who will soon be 95, had the oddest notions about wills, living and otherwise. The living will says that he doesn't even want an IV needle in his arm . . ! Of course, his sons can make whatever decision about this and all the rest - that they choose, from the language he has in the will.

His other will reads about the same way: property at 50/50 with his 2 sons deciding. What is that? We can argue of not but still be the 2 making decisions. How are these "directives?"

The living will just looks like a way for the health care people to put pressure on someone for a quick agreement. Of course, the insurance people are 100% for them.

Now, that said - if you want to limit who makes decisions, take some responsibility off of family members, and can make a reasonable decision at this time in your life, a living will is kind and makes a great deal of sense.
 
caz12 said:
we did ours i gave copy to my son he can get on with it when i gone...dont want think about them anymore...i had go solicitor cost 200quid that about 150dollors i think....bloody robbery
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yeah lawyers are wankers...they are legalised thieves
 
Grummer said:
yeah lawyers are wankers...they are legalised thieves
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Yet, there are many lawyers who help people who've been wronged seek justice through the legal system. Something the average lay person would have an incredibly difficult time navigating. I think there are good lawyers and bad lawyers- but I completely disagree that lawyers are thieves. They are paid what they are worth, and many take cases on a contingency.
 
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I think a living will is a good thing. This way you can be sure your wishes are abided by.
 
CSign said:
Yet, there are many lawyers who help people who've been wronged seek justice through the legal system. Something the average lay person would have an incredibly difficukt time navigating. I think there are good lawyers and bar lawyers- but I completely disagree that lawyers are thieves. They are paid what they are worth, and many take cases on a contingency.
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pretty rare
 
CSign said:
Yet, there are many lawyers who help people who've been wronged seek justice through the legal system. Something the average lay person would have an incredibly difficult time navigating. . .
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I think that is true about MD's also, CSign. But, if the legal system is difficult for the average person to navigate, so is the health care system. That is especially true at a time of crisis. Social workers at a hospital may be the very best people for some guidance on living wills - when people can think clearly & before they are needed.
 
Yes, but the problem is if you can recall Florida comatose woman whose her husband wants unplug life support while her family wants her alive, there was uphill battle, the problem is there is no living will and whoever next to kin makes decision which was her husband. There was court going on dragging until judge grant husband decision to go ahead unplug the life support system. Don't you recall that case?

http://www.nndb.com/people/435/000026357/

If Terri had living will assigned her parents as executor, then she may be still alive.

Grummer said:
yeah lawyers are wankers...they are legalised thieves
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I vaguely remember that case...seemed as if Terri did NOT have a Living Will at that time...but I might be wrong here....

Just hoping my own wishes will be followed as I've stated...and conversations with Family should be made, and not at the "last minute"....let it be known your wishes and ask for them to be followed....
 
I remember this case clearly, there was no living will so this woman's parents fought in court to reinstate the life support where Terri's husband wants unplug. Terri's husband won the battle in the end.

rockin'robin said:
I vaguely remember that case...seemed as if Terri did NOT have a Living Will at that time...but I might be wrong here....

Just hoping my own wishes will be followed as I've stated...and conversations with Family should be made, and not at the "last minute"....let it be known your wishes and ask for them to be followed....
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diehard...im a wee bit confused whys my quote there? as in your most previous post?

aside, bloody interesting topic, and i enjoyed it, and CSign, thanks for your freindly reply, i really appreciated at least we can get on, so thats great...(am i naive?)...but yeah i hardly ever see lawyers helping people, because its like they'd only help those who have $$ to get their way, tragic form of justice if i may add...

cheers, and I think my mum have an eqavalient of a living will, I have a will but id need to change it as i sold off my $40,000 hifi stereo system...so thats out...
 
Does not matter if greedy attorney is raking up dollars. It is STILL greedy attorney rake up in event of no living will exists, perfect example, Terri Schiavo. It's like one way or other.

There are volunteer attorneys out there, example? ACLU. Of course, they are now shrinking... Hope not forever gone.

Grummer said:
diehard...im a wee bit confused whys my quote there? as in your most previous post?

aside, bloody interesting topic, and i enjoyed it, and CSign, thanks for your freindly reply, i really appreciated at least we can get on, so thats great...(am i naive?)...but yeah i hardly ever see lawyers helping people, because its like they'd only help those who have $$ to get their way, tragic form of justice if i may add...

cheers, and I think my mum have an eqavalient of a living will, I have a will but id need to change it as i sold off my $40,000 hifi stereo system...so thats out...
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Grummer said:
diehard...im a wee bit confused whys my quote there? as in your most previous post?

aside, bloody interesting topic, and i enjoyed it, and CSign, thanks for your freindly reply, i really appreciated at least we can get on, so thats great...(am i naive?)...but yeah i hardly ever see lawyers helping people, because its like they'd only help those who have $$ to get their way, tragic form of justice if i may add...

cheers, and I think my mum have an eqavalient of a living will, I have a will but id need to change it as i sold off my $40,000 hifi stereo system...so thats out...
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There are two different wills, one for living will and the other for making the will to give someone property or investments. The living will is for someone who wish to not live with tubes or does not want to go on living like died in dignity or in peace without being forced or wanted them to live longer when there is no way to live longer. They don't like the pains so they want to let go so they made the living will for that purpose.

That is why it is a shame when the person like Terri did not have a living will to make her decision on what she want to wish to keep on living or just to let go and died peacefully with no worry about pains. I had already made a living will if I had to go into the hospital and would have been severely ready to die. So it is a preparation to just make the living will ahead of the time. Not last minute. Just to clear up your confusion about wills. :)
 
:ty: Living will is very similar to Proxy.

Bebonang said:
There are two different wills, one for living will and the other for making the will to give someone property or investments. The living will is for someone who wish to not live with tubes or does not want to go on living like died in dignity or in peace without being forced or wanted them to live longer when there is no way to live longer. They don't like the pains so they want to let go so they made the living will for that purpose.

That is why it is a shame when the person like Terri did not have a living will to make her decision on what she want to wish to keep on living or just to let go and died peacefully with no worry about pains. I had already made a living will if I had to go into the hospital and would have been severely ready to die. So it is a preparation to just make the living will ahead of the time. Not last minute. Just to clear up your confusion about wills. :)
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Bebonang said:
There are two different wills, one for living will and the other for making the will to give someone property or investments. The living will is for someone who wish to not live with tubes or does not want to go on living like died in dignity or in peace without being forced or wanted them to live longer when there is no way to live longer. They don't like the pains so they want to let go so they made the living will for that purpose.

That is why it is a shame when the person like Terri did not have a living will to make her decision on what she want to wish to keep on living or just to let go and died peacefully with no worry about pains. I had already made a living will if I had to go into the hospital and would have been severely ready to die. So it is a preparation to just make the living will ahead of the time. Not last minute. Just to clear up your confusion about wills. :)
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That's right....A Living Will is pretty simple...just sign and get notorized w/witnesses...

Th other Wil you need and should make before you pass away, with designated property/vehicles/bank accounts, etc., etc. to whom and where you wish it to go...
 
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