Texas Immigration Rally

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have you gone to far end?

Steinhauer said:
Ok. Let me be clear (I thought I was being clear earlier).
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wow.... you're persistent, aren't ya? You just dug your own grave with this English language thing and you're back for more?

Let me be clear for you - you have FAILED to prove to us (me, darkdog) that English is United States' official language as declared by US government. You have failed to create any valid arguments especially with erroneous examples in all threads.

Steinhauer said:
THIS thread is about illegal aliens. It is about rallies protesting Arizona's "new" immigration law.
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um.... this thread (which you created) is about (which you highlighted in red print) "rally support for reforming immigration laws" in Texas.

Steinhauer said:
I thought it would be pertinent to understand exactly what was being protested.

So far, I have learned the following disinformation about Arizona's "new" immigration law (I hyphen "new" because its an old law) - many believe it to be a racist law and anti-immigrant.
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You have learned nothing, buddy. Forget about some petty argument about this law being racist and anti-immigrant.

Focus on real picture - this law is being challenged as unconstitutional for doing the duty that is reserved only to federal agents, not state.
 
Jiro said:
have you gone to far end?


wow.... you're persistent, aren't ya? You just dug your own grave with this English language thing and you're back for more?

Let me be clear for you - you have FAILED to prove to us (me, darkdog) that English is United States' official language as declared by US government. You have failed to create any valid arguments especially with erroneous examples in all threads.


um.... this thread (which you created) is about (which you highlighted in red print) "rally support for reforming immigration laws" in Texas.


You have learned nothing, buddy. Forget about some petty argument about this law being racist and anti-immigrant.

Focus on real picture - this law is being challenged as unconstitutional for doing the duty that is reserved only to federal agents, not state.
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You and darkdog are absolutely correct. America does not have an official language. Likewise, it is naive to say that English is the De Facto official language. Which version of English? American English or British English?
 
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Let not mince words.

I think the differences between American English and British English is already confusing enough for the readers.

Canadian English already makes my head spin-- thank goodness that there's a journalist from Toronto that is publishing a book on Canadian grammar soon; something that other "Canadian" publishers have screwed up on.
 
jillio said:
well, aren't you the entitled one? I don't know what makes you think that you are entitled to an answer on your time schedule, but that attitude is indicative of the difficulties you obviously have with social skills. Put that overblown ego back in your pocket. It does you absolutely no good around here.

A child entering kindergarten already has a native language. And they don't just start learning english at the age of 5. You are attempting to speak regarding subjects of which you have no knowledge, and it certainly isn't doing anything to help your already suffering credibility. It is like doing battle with an unarmed opponent.
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Do ..... They ...... Sing ..... The ..... Song ..... In ...... English?

Hey, there is this nifty little pesky law that should be brought up about now:
Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
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souggy said:
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Let not mince words.

I think the differences between American English and British English is already confusing enough for the readers.

Canadian English already makes my head spin-- thank goodness that there's a journalist from Toronto that is publishing a book on Canadian grammar soon; something that other "Canadian" publishers have screwed up on.
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LOL. My point exactly. English is simply too broad to used as the designation of an official language.
 
jillio said:
Not seething at all. Just don't want a newcomer to mistakenly believe that you actually have friends.

And using one sentence in German and Spanish does not qualify you as trilingual. You are a unilingual that can remember one sentence in a couple of languages.

Can you say paranoia in German and Spanish?
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This is another golden opportunity I refrained from using earlier ....

However, I will use it now. Your not implying that that one should be "fluent" in a foreign language in order for them to be qualified as "bilingual" are you?

Hmmmm .... think about that for a minute.

Even you get it. One does not speak English if they can only remember one sentence.
 
Steinhauer said:
Do ..... They ...... Sing ..... The ..... Song ..... In ...... English?

Hey, there is this nifty little pesky law that should be brought up about now:
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The song can be sung in any language. Still has absolutely nothing to do with a child's native language. Less time on the internet and more time learning about the topics you are attempting to contribute to would be very beneficial for you.
 
jillio said:
LOL. My point exactly. English is simply too broad to used as the designation of an official language.
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But it is required for a legal immigrant to pass an English test .... hmmm.

Warping things so soon?
 
jillio said:
The song can be sung in any language. Still has absolutely nothing to do with a child's native language. Less time on the internet and more time learning about the topics you are attempting to contribute to would be very beneficial for you.
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Exactly, it can. However, in a United States Kindergarten class, it is sung in English.

I will take this one step further and really refrain from insulting your intelligence (because you have none to insult).

When a foreign language speaking family sends their child to a U.S. Kindergarten class, their child learns English in Kindergarten.

Many children grow up interpreting for their elders as a result. They also learned their "native" language before being taught English.
 
Steinhauer said:
Exactly, it can. However, in a United States Kindergarten class, it is sung in English.

I will take this one step further and really refrain from insulting your intelligence (because you have none to insult).

When a foreign language speaking family sends their child to a U.S. Kindergarten class, their child learns English in Kindergarten.

Many children grow up interpreting for their elders as a result.
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Not necessarily. Children in kindergarten sing songs in foreign languages all the time. Perhaps if you had passed kindergarten, you would have that knowledge at your disposal.

Ad hominem attacks. A sign of virtually no ability to think critically, and no foundation on which to base one's argument. Keep going...you are making yourself appear more objectionable and less educated with each and every post.

Your last statement, again, is not factual. You really need to stop pulling these claims out of your rear end. You keep demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not even know the criteria for a "native language." Please stick to the words that you can actually define and you won't have to be concerned with using them incorrectly.
 
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Too many Canadians think our English is either British, or American-- when in fact, it is neither.

"Yogourt" is a word that is absent from both British and American dictionaries. What is it? A byproduct of our educational system emphasizing on basic British spellings. Also a byproduct of labelling products in both French and English.

And cue the head rolls.
 
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Steinhauer said:
jillio said:
LOL. My point exactly. English is simply too broad to used as the designation of an official language.
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But it is required for a legal immigrant to pass an English test .... hmmm.

Warping things so soon?
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That test is a joke.

Seriously. Compared to ours, it's a joke.
 
souggy said:
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That test is a joke.

Seriously. Compared to ours, it's a joke.
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Of course it is. The entire law is present simply to pacify those ethnocentrists that are so easily pacified.
 
Don't make me grab my bow and arrow and chase ye palefaces back to Ye Olde England!
 
jillio said:
Not necessarily. Children in kindergarten sing songs in foreign languages all the time. Perhaps if you had passed kindergarten, you would have that knowledge at your disposal.

Ad hominem attacks. A sign of virtually no ability to think critically, and no foundation on which to base one's argument. Keep going...you are making yourself appear more objectionable and less educated with each and every post.

Your last statement, again, is not factual. You really need to stop pulling these claims out of your rear end. You keep demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not even know the criteria for a "native language." Please stick to the words that you can actually define and you won't have to be concerned with using them incorrectly.
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Show me where they were pulled out of my posterior (I showed actual statutes).


Foreign .... you caught that one right? Meaning ..... non-English :laugh2:


Dare I ask? ....

Foreign to what?
 
Main Entry: for·eign
Pronunciation: \ˈfȯr-ən, ˈfär-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English forein, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin foranus on the outside, from Latin foris outside — more at forum
Date: 13th century

1 : situated outside a place or country; especially : situated outside one's own country
2 : born in, belonging to, or characteristic of some place or country other than the one under consideration
3 : of, relating to, or proceeding from some other person or material thing than the one under consideration
4 : alien in character : not connected or pertinent
5 : related to or dealing with other nations
6 a : occurring in an abnormal situation in the living body and often introduced from outside <a foreign body lodged in the esophagus> b : not recognized by the immune system as part of the self <foreign proteins>
7 : not being within the jurisdiction of a political unit (as a state)
 
wondering if past 2 pages are any related to this thread....
 
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