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jillio said:
But it was a joke based on a concept that is not applicable to the discussion.
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What's the point if one can't crack jokes? I see there's a joke forum here, is there not?
 
Bottesini said:
Jillio, I have two handicaps. The ADA classifies both as disabilities.

I consider me pretty much a good productive citizen who is not that bothered by my handicaps that the government classifies as disabilities.

They are just descriptive words. I am not really that bothered by either one.
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Would you be bothered by the use of either one if they caused negative perceptions of you and your abilities?

Yes, the ADA does use the term "disabilities". But they also use it in the context of a person having a disability, and not in the context of that person being disabled.
 
jillio said:
Do you feel the same when it is applied to you? And whether you see anything wrong with it or not, many individuals do see something wrong with it, and some are posters on this board. The word has a very negative connotation.

No, it is not verbose. It is actually more accurate. Simply because one has a disability does not mean that they are disabled. I know many people with various disabilities that have accomplished more than many folks without disabilities. Likewise, I know people with disabilities that are not in the least disabled.
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jillio said:
You understand exactly what I am saying. :ty:

And, my point is that a person with a disability is not necessarily handicapped, nor are they necessarily disabled.
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ok you're going waaaaayyyyy too far. Come back here and look at general use of the word. i don't really care about each one's specific situation. nobody does. do you want a parking sign to be verbose and specific - "parking reserved for a person with wheelchair or mobility disability" ???

"HANDICAPPED PARKING ONLY" - NUFF SAID! nothing offensive, nothing insensitive. please leave the political correction at home. If you wana talk about a person in your workplace or whatsoever - go ahead and use the sensitive wording but I ain't. Nobody takes offense anyway - only if you think they're stupid just because they're disabled/handicapped/etc.

If they do take offense of certain wording - well.... they can go :madfawk: themselves :cool2:
 
jiro123 said:
ok you're going waaaaayyyyy too far. Come back here and look at general use of the word. i don't really care about each one's specific situation. nobody does. do you want a parking sign to be verbose and specific - "parking reserved for a person with wheelchair or mobility disability" ???

"HANDICAPPED PARKING ONLY" - NUFF SAID! nothing offensive, nothing insensitive. please leave the political correction at home. If you wana talk about a person in your workplace or whatsoever - go ahead and use the sensitive wording but I ain't. Nobody takes offense anyway - only if you think they're stupid just because they're disabled/handicapped/etc.

If they do take offense of certain wording - well.... they can go :madfawk: themselves :cool2:
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Parking spaces are not limited to mobility disabilities. Many people with other types of disabilities are also included in the population that has permits for parking in these spaces.

Nor are we talking about signs. We are talking about using language that leads to stereotypes, and why you would want to perpetrate that is beyond me.
 
jillio said:
Would you be bothered by the use of either one if they caused negative perceptions of you and your abilities?

Yes, the ADA does use the term "disabilities". But they also use it in the context of a person having a disability, and not in the context of that person being disabled.
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You have a point and I think they do cause negative perceptions. But I think it is a fact of life that I may have to try harder to overcome them.
 
Bottesini said:
You have a point and I think they do cause negative perceptions. But I think it is a fact of life that I may have to try harder to overcome them.
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Sure. I wasn't referring to the having to overcome natural obstacles. That is a given. But, the fact that you do overcome such obstacles makes you not handicapped by your disability.

And the negative perception thing was my point. This is the type of language used by those that create obstacles for people with disabilities simply because they adhere to stereotypes and see the disability as the whole of the person.
 
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