There you go - "in a manner way." You can do same in here but you know how argument is. It solves nothing and it usually escalates to violence. That's why it's best not to argue with the police. Police is out there, risking every second of his life! Arguing is not what police wants to do. You can argue at court because it is a safe environment to do so. Arguing on street makes police nervous and scared.
let's start over. when the officer approaches to you - he asks for ID and papers. You can reach into purse or glove compartment for it because the officer expects you to do that. But when you argue and then suddenly reach into purse or compartment, the officer is not expecting that and it scares them. get it?
Very interesting!! That really sucks that the owner of car automatically gets the points even though he did not drive. In America - they do not charge points by camera to driver - only fines. Because when you charge points to license, you have to prove that it's the driver who violated the law, not the owner of the car. Camera does not prove this.
You said, "Police told us at parental evening that they will be glad to give us answer and advise us how to shoot if we want to know."
That isn't hands-on training. That's a lecture. You can't develop skills from a lecture.
No, I haven't shot anyone, and I pray to God that I never have to.
Why do I have to repeat to you that I never said that you should have a gun? I said repeatedly that no one is forced to have or use a gun, that it is a personal choice. Our Constitution protects our gun ownership. That's all.
When I post about aiming for the chest, it's not because I want to kill someone. It's because the goal is to stop the attack. If I can stop the attack, and the attacker lives, that's great. The goal is not to kill; the goal is to quickly stop the attack. If the attacker died from his wounds, I wouldn't be happy but the attacker made his choice when he broke the law. That's not my fault.
I said, "I want to have that option available to me." It would depend on the situation. I never said that I "prefer to run to get gun".
I thank you kindly not to make assumptions about what I do. I'm not "many people."
Then they don't get a gun. No one is forced to get a gun. How hard is that to understand?
If you don't even have the facts or the whole story then why are you bringing it up?I remember from read the article somewhere that a lady cries for the help because her estrangle husband beat her up... Police advised her to get gun. A lady refused and said that she do not like a gun. Police said: "Ok, it's your choice"... It sound not much solution for her if she do not want to own a gun?I cannot remember either she killed or not. I am still searching this article, I read at few years ago.
Fine.
Yes, ma'am, right away! I'm sorry that I can't keep up with your multitudinous posts and questions. I better cancel my afternoon beach plans so that I can catch up with your posts.
I never questioned your friend's intelligence, never. I just asked if your friend is a lawyer. A doctor is highly intelligent but I wouldn't get legal advice from a doctor. A lawyer is highly intelligent but I wouldn't get medical advice from a lawyer. If your friend is not a lawyer familiar with the laws of every state in every country, then I wouldn't go to her for legal advice. That's all. If your friend can supply a reference to support that statement, then fine. If not, then it's just speculation.
It's so cute how you attempt to mimic my posting style.
can I join you?
Weather's mighty fine at this hour!
Sure, everyone at AD is invited. Hubby's bringing home lunch now, and then we pack up the car and head for the beach (if it doesn't rain).can I join you?
During evening meal, my famliy were shock when I told them about your post. They wondering themselves either US police are allow to kill them to stop them from running? Yes I also wondering the same as well.
You talked about your 2 incidents about when you were alone. Well how about this - what if it was a "norm" to carry a gun (only lawful citizens)? Nobody's going to hurt you and you can jog alone at night.
Here in Germany, we are not allow to carry gun to the public except hunters, officers, security personnel, politicians. We are allow to use pepperspray as self-defense, also deodorant spray as well to the public.
about the bike incident where you almost hit him... have you considered that the biker may be scared because you are probably reaching for gun in your purse?
I´m afraid no, he know automatic it´s spray, not gun..
cool! welcome home! lol I'm here too.
actually - we would be SHOCKED to hear if cops would actually shoot at people to make them stop running.... that is a civil rights violation and there would be riots! Plus - cops can't do that because it is very dangerous. The stray bullet can hit the innocent or the bullet can ricochet off to innocent people.
don't I wish I can be allowed to carry those in public..... It is banned in NJ & NY and it would be considered as a weapon charge like gun :roll:
I can't get the video to play, so I don't know what your point was for that.
I´m sorry that you can´t use the logical to see the difference between cop(S) shoot a man with knife dozen of times when he RAN to them... they should shot to wound his leg, not shot dozen of times to kill him and a police officer shot a woman with gun´s leg to prevent her from try to do something including kill herself.
Don´t you read that a police officer shoot lady with gun´s leg?
15 years old?????
I had been attacked at officer in 1994 when I was 6 years old, I was start wild and attack at bus keeper, that where women who take care of handicapped kids in special bus, she showed a point the police car to me at bus's window and I just feel disgusted then almost attacked her, yelled so loudly then bus driver had call police via CB radio and stopped the bus, officer got in bus and grabbed my arm so hard and got out of bus, I was punched at his chest and kick at leg, nearly to body until other officer had stopped to tight my body down and 1st officer was slapped my face so hard then arrested with handcuff and drove to police station then put me in jail alone, several min later then sat in office after calm down and I was act like very wild kid, just had wait until my parent picked me up, that's not funny but it happens when some young child are bad.
There's no taser gun at this time, even can't point the gun at unarmed child like me but slapping isn't right, it can considered as child abuse but I don't have enough mind to report at this time, I just looks like special education, really not basic knowledge, even I had been raised at bad preschool, just nothing to learn and not know how to fully communicate until when I was 8 or 9 years old.
I´m very sorry to know that you had a bad experience with 1st officer. I consider it as an abuse, not right self-defense. :roll: There´re many wild kids, not just you... they do is held them tight until they are calm down... I know myself because my oldest son was ADD that´s time he was a little boy... I hold him tight as long as he calm down... 
therapy´s tip.
I haven't even viewed the video, so I haven't made a comment about it. I never compared the video situation with the police officer shooting a woman's leg. What's going on here???
Did you not read that I said I haven't even looked at the video yet? I have no idea what is in your video link because I can't view it now. How am I supposed to make a comment about something I can't see? Come on, now, get real. :roll:
Yes. No where in that article did it say that the officer aimed for her leg. The bullet hit her in the leg. We don't know where the officer was aiming when he fired. It says no where in that article that the officer was trained to aim at the leg. If you can find a sentence in that story that says the officer aimed at her leg intentionally, I would like to see it.
Where in the article did it say that an investigation proved that the cop wrongfully shot the boy? Please show me the sentence.15 years old?????
Huh? I said that they are glad to answer our question and ADVISED us how to shoot. I never said the word about train... Huh? Please read my post carefully.
That´s why I decide the gun is not for me.
Understood... Okay, you & I don´t have any experience with guns to shoot. We do not need to say anything further when we don´t have any experience to defend ourselves against intruders/attackers like that before but we are still learning how to defense our life against attackers/intruders. You decide for gun is your choice as the same I decide for not get gun is my choice.
Yes, I thought the same but I beleive in to use good judgment instead of jump too quickly.
Accord websites, Americans killed many people without use good judgment because they "thought" they have weapons.
I agreed with you that it´s not safety to use gun under pillow because I notice many people thru websites that they use gun under the pillow which they beleive it´s safety which is not good. Please don´t accuse me of something I didn´t accuse you for.
Accord your previous posts here and other threads, you beleive in gun is the good idea for self-defense. You tried to convince us that gun is ideal. I tried to convince you that each person is different and do not want to own a gun. You questioned me a lot in other threads how do I defend without use a gun... Remember ?
I have no reason to make up the stories what I know from read the article at few years ago and already told you that I am still searching for that article, I read at few years ago.
Enjoy your wonderful day with your hubby.
Accord your writting... you question me in cynically way.
Okay, this is your opinion... I take both sides to real life situation and fact (laws).
It's so cute how you attempt to mimic my posting style.
I learn from you.. I learn more and more from you due our years debate.
Why should I give you a legal source when you want "highly intelligent" people´s advice only (your own word)...? I would suggest you check with local police station in area where you live then you will know more about legal from "highly intelligent" people there in your area because you know that there´re different laws in different states in America.
Oh my dear, it´s very sad to read your story what and how you had been through.
Yes you are very lucky that they do not taser you at your time... At present time, they taser the kids accord the link, I posted which is really sad.
