Starbucks CEO asking patrons to leave guns at home

It is very rare for me to see open carry in my state, despite about gun friendly state but CCW is much more common than OC.

I never seen guys with AR-15 on back in any places with my eye, but I did see few men open carried pistol with holster.
 
I don't open carry personally. I don't like the attention. I do think it's funny when people get scared of it though. Really all it does is break their little false idea of safety. No one knows who is carrying what. I assume anyone could be armed.

That's the idea. It creates doubts by criminals who want to rob a store because they wouldn't know if they just walked into a roomful of customers who are OCWers/CCWers. Good deterrents. A "gun-free-zone" is NOT a deterrents to criminals who are dead set to use their weapons in an environment that's to their advantage.
 
I am actually a far leftist, and believe that the second amendment allows for a "well regulated militia" which we have, so I see no reason for gun ownership for citizens.
 
I am actually a far leftist, and believe that the second amendment allows for a "well regulated militia" which we have, so I see no reason for gun ownership for citizens.
So you disagree with the Supreme Court?
 
I am actually a far leftist, and believe that the second amendment allows for a "well regulated militia" which we have, so I see no reason for gun ownership for citizens.

:shock: but considering your take on some other issues, I don't know why I should be.
 
I really don't know why anyone would have to preface a post with "I am a far leftist" or "I am a far rights" or "I am Ron Paulist." Most people can discern these things from the context of the posts unless someone is posting against the grain.
 
Yes I do. Just like anti-choice people disagree with Roe v Wade.

Sure, some people disagree with US Supreme Court for some reason, especially gay marriage, abortion, campaign funds, guns, healthcare, etc.

I'm left-libertarian/liberal and I do support 2nd Amendment, but it isn't unregulated firearm.
 
Just because the 2nd Amendment allows people to carry firearms legally, it doesn't mean they should possess firearms in the first place. There's no real good reason to possess firearms. All it does is bring violence, sadness, and death. Guns do not wound/kill people. People wound/kill people!
 
At least, they don't outlaw CCW.

Not surprised about customers got scared by guys carry AR-15 on back or pistol in holsters.

If I have to carry the gun so I prefer CCW because I don't want deal with overreaction and phobia customers who call police on me. I don't need anyone to know if I carry guns.

Well, I for one am glad to see you changed your mind on gun control. I remember having debates with you in the past where you were completely against having a gun at all. It seems you have matured a little bit and realized that you are the only one that is 100% responsible for your own protection.

So, when are you going to buy an AR-15?
 
Since Starbucks is asking me to leave my gun outside, will they let me carry in my rope dart instead?

Or, my meteor hammer?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhW67MBO8M8]Kung Fu Weapons - The Rope Dart & The Meteor Hammer - YouTube[/ame]
 
I am actually a far leftist, and believe that the second amendment allows for a "well regulated militia" which we have, so I see no reason for gun ownership for citizens.

How are you doing far leftist liberal?

I am a fair and balanced and reasonable American. I know this, because most far leftist liberals tell me that I am not. I believe that our founding fathers made it very clear what the Second Amendment was for. It was so that far leftist liberals, such as yourself, cannot infringe on the natural right of individuals to defend themselves. I can readily tell from your post that you were able to read all the way up to the comma in the Second Amendment. However, you stopped reading at the comma. If you can get past that little hurdle (and I know you can do it if you just try), you will see that the Second Amendment also includes these very important words :

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed


So, you see? People have the right bear arms (but you can only see that if you get past the comma - I know its hard, but I believe you can do it if you just try).

In other words, you have every right to have your own opinion that there is no reason for gun ownership for citizens, and you can publicly state your opinion - however, unfortunately for you, you cannot make your opinion a law, since that would be an infringement. Sorry about that my dear far leftist liberal friend.

Just because we do not agree on this issue, does not mean that we cannot be friends. I realize that we both see the world at completely different angles.

Your perception of the world is, what I like to call "fantasy". It is based on the premise that if guns were outlawed, for the private citizen, there would not be mass shootings, and murder would cease to exist. Your fantasy also indicates that soldiers, and only trained soldiers, should have weapons. After all, they are the only ones professional enough.

My perception of the world, on the other hand, is based on what I like to call "reality". Reality has nothing to do, at all, with your interpretation of the Second Amendment - which is called "fantasy'. It is based on facts, evidence, research and hard data. These four things - facts, evidence, research and data - all come into play when discussing reality. They are not needed when discussing fantasy.

When you clearly stated that you 'believe' the Second Amendment was only intended for a well regulated militia, you dismissed a fact. That fact was that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. now please repeat this 3x:

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

It is also a fact, not a belief (which indicates fantasy), that "the people' are not a "militia". It is also another fact that the Second Amendment includes a very specific right for 'the people' - and that is they can keep and bear arms.

There are several other facts I would like to discuss with you if you wish to delve into this further. But first, I must ask you a question - is it a "fact' or a 'fantasy" that gun free zones make people safer?

The next topic I would like to discuss about our different world views will cover evidence, research and data in regards to gun free zones.

Thank you and have a nice night. :wave:
 
Might be a problem with the rope dart, however I hear they're accepting of hunting knives. :D Just put that in your holster instead of the gun and see what spawns from it. :laugh2:

but the rope dart makes it easier to grab my scones from across the room.
 
but the rope dart makes it easier to grab my scones from across the room.

Hey, if you're that accurate, I say it should be allowed! I think it would make an excellent show inside of Starbucks. :D

I am a fire performer myself, so I am definitely not new to the world of rope darts. :D
 
I am actually a far leftist, and believe that the second amendment allows for a "well regulated militia" which we have, so I see no reason for gun ownership for citizens.

Besides the fact that a malitia is a non-professional or citizen fighting force, one that is historically required by law to keep their own firearms and ammunition, why would a constitution designed to protect the people specifically include an amendment to arm the government?
 
Just because the 2nd Amendment allows people to carry firearms legally, it doesn't mean they should possess firearms in the first place. There's no real good reason to possess firearms. All it does is bring violence, sadness, and death. Guns do not wound/kill people. People wound/kill people!

Your first sentace is contradictory and as for the rest if you have a better solution to personal protection i'd like to know. To me a family protected by enough force to get the job done is much much less sad than one that isn't and has met with the consequences.
 
Well, I for one am glad to see you changed your mind on gun control. I remember having debates with you in the past where you were completely against having a gun at all. It seems you have matured a little bit and realized that you are the only one that is 100% responsible for your own protection.

So, when are you going to buy an AR-15?

Yes, I used to be completely anti-gun rights and support gun ban law that similar to UK. It didn't work out for our country and many people own gun for self defense and hunting over the world, not just US only.

I made change to my belief with gun rights in 2008-2009.

Not know. I will returning to Gallaudet in January 2014 and will probably not get it until after graduation, or have to leave it at home, if my family give to me for my birthday or christmas.

AR-15 is good for in house/property defense but hard to conceal. The pistol is smaller and easier to conceal.

I don't want open carry (expose in public) because I don't want deal with overreaction, oversensitivity people who call 911. I just keep to myself.
 
Just because the 2nd Amendment allows people to carry firearms legally, it doesn't mean they should possess firearms in the first place. There's no real good reason to possess firearms. All it does is bring violence, sadness, and death. Guns do not wound/kill people. People wound/kill people!

I have same thought as well.

Unfortunately, some people need firearm to protect themselves from evil people (criminal).

That's sad for sure.
 
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