San Francisco may charge for grocery bags.Another form of tax from liberals.

[ravensteve1961]

Liberals will do anything to grab more money from you. Like Liberals put car emission testing to grab about $20 from you to clean the air. Now liberals wanna steal from your wallet some more by adding 17 cents per bag when you shop at the grocery store. All liberals have one thing on their minds is tax,tax,tax,tax. I want the people warn their local politicans tax one more item and youre ass is out of the job. Just like womens groups complain about republicans taking their rights away the right to choose. Remember Miss Sneal former head of the N.O.W ? She made this speech... ""Listen to our words,,,Hear our Voices,,, Take away our rights,,, Lose Your Job! "" Thats what we need to tell our local politicans ""Listen to our words,,,Hear our Voices,,,tax one more item,,lose Your Job!!!""
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[Vance]

to conserve/protect the environment and animals UNLIKELY angsty anti-environment warmonger as you.

it is even not 'form of tax'. Jeez, you LOVE to exaggerating with baseless 'facts', are you? :roll:

 

[Taylor]

to conserve/protect the environment and animals UNLIKELY angsty anti-environment warmonger as you.

it is even not 'form of tax'. Jeez, you LOVE to exaggerating with baseless 'facts', are you? :roll:

(clears throat). Some stores here have been charging for years to encourage recycling and not the over use of bags. What they do give you is a cardboard boxes from their shipments. Instead of getting a bag, you go and pick out the box you want. They also sell you a bag that is reusable (reminds me of a mesh beach bag). If you don't want any of the above and insist on getting backs, you pay extra for it. Seems to work out well for that chain and I'm all for it.
I do especially hate when I go to the grocery store and a bagger will put one or 2 items per bag...I say fill 'em up. I'd hate to use 6 bads when I can get away with 2.

 

[Vance]

(clears throat). Some stores here have been charging for years to encourage recycling and not the over use of bags. What they do give you is a cardboard boxes from their shipments. Instead of getting a bag, you go and pick out the box you want. They also sell you a bag that is reusable (reminds me of a mesh beach bag). If you don't want any of the above and insist on getting backs, you pay extra for it. Seems to work out well for that chain and I'm all for it.
I do especially hate when I go to the grocery store and a bagger will put one or 2 items per bag...I say fill 'em up. I'd hate to use 6 bads when I can get away with 2.

Yeah but 95% of people didn't do that... I see many people wasting the plastic bags and such everyday near my area. It is quite annoying. I think people in San Francisco did the right thing to solve that problem by make a 'law' to stop these kind of things to conserve the environment..

Plastic is very hard to 'dissolve' on the lands and so easy to pollute the air, water and lands.

Taylor, I am using the canvas bags to carry the foods & liquids. It will be very rare to find me using the plastic bag unless I am in different state to visit or on trip. I did my part but 95% of people didn't.

Edit: I must admit that I can be bit exaggerating about 95% thingy. It is differeint in North California than in south California. North California have lot of environment-awareness people...

 

[Taylor]

I know what you mean. I do still, however, use plastic and paper bags. One reason is I have a million and one uses for them. They do get recycled by me when I am done with them....and thats after I use them for a variety of things.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

***sigh*** Ravensteven,

It's nothing do with "tax greed" but keep the country clean. I read your link and realized that you doesnt read properly. It written over environment on your link.

San Francisco may charge for grocery bags
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SAN FRANCISCO San Francisco may become the first city in the nation to charge shoppers for grocery bags.

The city's environmental commission is expected to ask the mayor and board of supervisors Tuesday to consider a 17-cent-per-bag charge on paper and plastic grocery bags.

Their goal is to reduce plastic bag pollution. Environmentalists say plastic bags jam machinery, pollute waterways and often end up in trees.

Officials believe that the city spends five-point-two cents per bag annually for street litter pickup and one-point-four cents per bag for extra recycling costs.

But grocers and bag manufacturers argue that many people already reuse their plastic bags.

Other opponents call the plan an unfair and regressive tax on shoppers.

Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.



Next time you should read carefully instead of talk full of craps!

You has to learn and read link here:
Then you will understand the example why we support money to keep our countries clean.

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=8346&highlight=environment

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=8325&highlight=environment

 

[Banjo]

But grocers and bag manufacturers argue that many people already reuse their plastic bags.

True, but it's also true that a lot of cities are littered with plastic bags too as well.

 

[Codger]

Arkansas Tumbleweeds

Lol! This is the name that has been given to those blue Wal-Mart bags seen blowing across America. I too reuse them, then when my stash gets big enough, I return them to Walmart, who sends them to a recycler. Back when all soft drinks came in glass bottles, they had a deposit on them from 5 to 15 cents. This encouraged folks to recycle them. A lot of states have similar incentives on aluminum cans now. In grocery stores, I ask for the paper bags when I can. They are biodegradable, reusable, and stronger than the plastic film bags. As far as being a drain on natural resources, there is less plastic in two hundres of the plastic bags than in a single gallon milk jug, and the paper bags are made from a renewable resource. I do agree that the plastic bags are an eyesore on the landscape. A deposit might help, but not a tax. If I did not want to pay a city tax on them I would opt for providing my own shopping bags.

 

[Cheri]

I do especially hate when I go to the grocery store and a bagger will put one or 2 items per bag...I say fill 'em up. I'd hate to use 6 bads when I can get away with 2.

I agree with you Taylor, Myself do not like too many bags either with less items. I pack my own bags sometimes when there is no bag person there, I put as much as can possible to fill the bag up, But sometimes I uses two bags for liters of pop because they easy get ripped if used one bag. It had happened before LOL!

I believe in recycler, but I do not get taxes off from my property house because I do not own the house the Landlords gets taxes off for every recycler they received, that is from your home to the City. And I also reused the bags again at the store that only charge you for bags you buy at the store. Like Save-Alot that is one chain store that charge you for bags. If you bring you own they do not charge you for the bags.

 

[kuifje75]

Yeah same here, I prefer to bring my cloth bags when I can, or sometimes even the collapsible plastic boxes for shopping. I leave it in my car and then it's good to be reusable. Also, when I was in Germany, a lot of plastic bags were quality made, so it was worth to pay like 20 or 25 pfennings for a bag, cos I would use it again and again. I still have these bags here in the US, even though they were from 1996. I don't think it is a bad idea to have people pay a surcharge on plastic bags. I think, it might work better if it was on deposit system. You deposit like 2 cents a bag and get 2 cents back if you bring the bags back to be recycled.

Here is what I mean about collapsible box, which I have 3 or 4 of them:

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yeah Kuiji75, I use like this for shopping and also cotton bag, too.

 

[Cheri]

<<< not going shopping with kuifje75, when he brings those plastic boxes










































































Just Kidding here!

 

[ravensteve1961]

So Taking money from you by adding more than you pay for is not a tax? Balony!!! Its a tax just like car emission testing is a tax. What you think the boston tea party was about when the king charges you more for tea tax?

 

[Taylor]

So Taking money from you by adding more than you pay for is not a tax? Balony!!! Its a tax just like car emission testing is a tax. What you think the boston tea party was about when the king charges you more for tea tax?

Then take all your plastic bags down to the harbor and toss 'em in. How about they raise the price of everything in the store by 1 penny and then not tell you that the extra penny is for the bags?

 

[ravensteve1961]

Well thats a sneaky way to keep the voters quiet. Everything democrats do they have to add tax to it. This is why Rush Limbaugh is on the radio. To let the people know what tricks the democrats are up to.

 

[FFT]

What you think the boston tea party was about when the king charges you more for tea tax?

I'm going to have to point out that the British monarchy is about as conservative as it gets.

 

[Reba]

I do still, however, use plastic and paper bags. One reason is I have a million and one uses for them. They do get recycled by me when I am done with them....and thats after I use them for a variety of things.

Same here. I reuse them at home, and my hubby reuses them in his business.