Real "Sybil" was a multiple personality fraud

Beowulf said:
Are they sure it wasn't the same patient? :giggle:
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I'd like to see any year in which "thousands" of cases of DID have been diagnosed.:laugh2: That is quite the vague claim. There are only a few clinicians in the country that are qualified to diagnose and treat DID. It is a specialty in and of itself. It certainly is not something that gets diagnosed by your average practicing clinician. In fact, if a case of DID were seen by the average practicing clinician, they would no doubt be diagnosed with another disorder. People with DID manage to go years without a proper diagnosis. Part of the feature of the disorder is not to make the alters obvious. Therefore, while people will realize that something doesn't quite add up, they don't have big clues as to the dissociation that is occuring.
 
TXgolfer said:
Dr Phil labels himself an entertainer and chose not to renew his license.
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The APA labels him an entertainer. He surrendered his license in the face of numerous ethical violation complaints that would have had his license revoked by the board.
 
Why does Dr. Phil keep coming up on AD (like a bad penny) anyway?

Oh that's right, certain posters just won't let go of him like dog does with a bone... *sigh*
 
I don't know how he got involved in this thread. I wish all the Dr. Phil stuff would go away.
 
Well, what would a 'classic case' of DID look like? I'm curious as to what separates fact from fiction.
 
I heard something about Sybil, she was still alive living somewhere in NY. I didn't hear anything about her story being fake. Interesting, that is a fake. I remember, the movie played by Sally Field.
 
Dixie said:
Well, what would a 'classic case' of DID look like? I'm curious as to what separates fact from fiction.
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Far different than what the movies and such portray it to be. You might want to read First Person Plural by Cameron West, PhD or A Fractured Mind by Robert Oxnam. These are both pretty typical cases of DID. But I warn you, as interesting as they are, they are nothing like the fictionalized cases you see in the movies. Robert Oxnam is internationally recognized and has accompanied people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and George HW Bush and Barbara on trips to Asia as an advisor. He is a specialist on Asia and was president of the Asia society for more than a decade. Needless to say, no one ever suspected that he had DID, and he was a very functional individual. This is usually the case with people who have DID.

Another very interesting case of DID is The Minds of Billy Milligan. His case is very atypical in many aspects, very typical in others. Because of the severity of his problems, he was not functional in the way that most people with DID are.
 
jillio said:
Far different than what the movies and such portray it to be. You might want to read First Person Plural by Cameron West, PhD or A Fractured Mind by Robert Oxnam. These are both pretty typical cases of DID. But I warn you, as interesting as they are, they are nothing like the fictionalized cases you see in the movies. Robert Oxnam is internationally recognized and has accompanied people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and George HW Bush and Barbara on trips to Asia as an advisor. He is a specialist on Asia and was president of the Asia society for more than a decade. Needless to say, no one ever suspected that he had DID, and he was a very functional individual. This is usually the case with people who have DID.

Another very interesting case of DID is The Minds of Billy Milligan. His case is very atypical in many aspects, very typical in others. Because of the severity of his problems, he was not functional in the way that most people with DID are.
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Thanks, I shall see if I can purchase these from Amazon and read them. I have already burned through my pastors library of books and his was/is extensive.
 
Dixie said:
Thanks, I shall see if I can purchase these from Amazon and read them. I have already burned through my pastors library of books and his was/is extensive.
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I think I got both of them from Amazon. That is where I get most of my books. The local library might have them, too.
 
jillio said:
I think I got both of them from Amazon. That is where I get most of my books. The local library might have them, too.
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Our local library is very small and carries more fiction than non-fiction. You can't conduct any real research beyond the elementary level. I tried that once, found nothing serious. I doubt they would have these.
 
Dixie said:
Our local library is very small and carries more fiction than non-fiction. You can't conduct any real research beyond the elementary level. I tried that once, found nothing serious. I doubt they would have these.
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Yeah, you are probably right then. The first one is relatively new, and the Oxnam book just came out a few months ago.
 
Dixie said:
Our local library is very small and carries more fiction than non-fiction. You can't conduct any real research beyond the elementary level. I tried that once, found nothing serious. I doubt they would have these.
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Do you know if your library is part of a network of any sort, with other libraries in the county or the state? Not saying they would have these particular books, but many times you can have access to a lot more than what a specific libary has on its shelves.
 
Beach girl said:
Do you know if your library is part of a network of any sort, with other libraries in the county or the state? Not saying they would have these particular books, but many times you can have access to a lot more than what a specific libary has on its shelves.
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They are a part of a regional library system in which all libraries carry much of the same thing. It's basically if all copies are checked out they can contact another library within the district region. If the other library has a copy available it can be sent to the local library on loan for a period of two weeks, however it can take up to a week to get the loan copy.

I will pay my bills, do some final Christmas shopping then see if my wallet agrees with the idea of ordering books off Amazon.
 
Have you participated in the Nook vs. Kindle discussions? E-readers can make it possible to check out books from pretty much any library in the country. Plus there are on-line virtual libraries for e-books. That is one big plus to owning one of the readers. (All Nooks can check out e-books from libraries, and the newest Kindles can too, but not the older Kindles.)
 
Beach girl said:
Have you participated in the Nook vs. Kindle discussions? E-readers can make it possible to check out books from pretty much any library in the country. Plus there are on-line virtual libraries for e-books. That is one big plus to owning one of the readers. (All Nooks can check out e-books from libraries, and the newest Kindles can too, but not the older Kindles.)
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No, I have not. My brother received a Nook for his birthday this year. I haven't decided if I want either of these or go with iPad with Wi-Fi.

Apparently my next major purchase will be a tablet of some sort. :hmm:

The advantage of these tablets would be that if I ever re-enrolled in Uni, I could just purchase and download electronic versions of the textbook where applicable instead of lugging around a stack of books.
 
Dixie said:
No, I have not. My brother received a Nook for his birthday this year. I haven't decided if I want either of these or go with iPad with Wi-Fi.

Apparently my next major purchase will be a tablet of some sort. :hmm:

The advantage of these tablets would be that if I ever re-enrolled in Uni, I could just purchase and download electronic versions of the textbook where applicable instead of lugging around a stack of books.
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Used copies of First Person Plural available for about $1.00 or a bit more.

"http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/first-person-plural-cameron-west/1015124364?ean=9780786863907&itm=4&usri=%22first+person+plural%22"

Not available in my county library as either a regular book or an e-book.

A Fractured Mind is available at the county library as a hardback, or as an audio book.

Also available used for less than $5.00.

"http://search.barnesandnoble.com/A-Fractured-Mind/Robert-B-Oxnam/e/9781401308681?itm=1&usri=a+fractured+mind"
 
Beach girl said:
Yup, that's a huge advantage.
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Perhaps when I re-enroll, I can to go the bookstore and inquire if they have any electronic versions of their books that can be purchased and downloaded through their store via a school code on a site. I hated lugging around a 10 lb world lit book and a 6 lb algebra book, and throw in a 4 lb Spanish book, and a 2 lb Writer's Harbrace. Now that's a stack to lug around for a day, especially if they are scheduled to where I really don't have time to run to my vehicle to exchange books, then throw in all of my notebooks and other class materials I needed.

Boo.

I wish I could have downloaded all the books onto a tablet device with a search and bookmark feature. I could just carry the tablet device, my notebooks and my class materials. All that together might weigh 10-15 lbs at most.
 
Dixie said:
Perhaps when I re-enroll, I can to go the bookstore and inquire if they have any electronic versions of their books that can be purchased and downloaded through their store via a school code on a site. I hated lugging around a 10 lb world lit book and a 6 lb algebra book, and throw in a 4 lb Spanish book, and a 2 lb Writer's Harbrace. Now that's a stack to lug around for a day, especially if they are scheduled to where I really don't have time to run to my vehicle to exchange books, then throw in all of my notebooks and other class materials I needed.

Boo.

I wish I could have downloaded all the books onto a tablet device with a search and bookmark feature. I could just carry the tablet device, my notebooks and my class materials. All that together might weigh 10-15 lbs at most.
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Overdrive.com is the largest supplier of general e-books, and EBSCO Host (ebscohost.com) has a huge selection of academic books, textbooks, abstracts, databases, etc. You need a library card from someplace to check out books from them.
 
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