Someone sent me this link on errors in the Bible. Interesting...
http://web2.airmail.net/capella/aguide/errors.htm
http://web2.airmail.net/capella/aguide/errors.htm
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Disagree.Magatsu said:
Correct.
You contradict yourself with your quotation here. You quoted:
If the Bible contains errors, the God-speaking contains the errors. Are you saying that God is in error? The Bible is the God-speaking.
Askjo, Reba, CyberRed are hoplessly brainwashed by heir religious beliefs. They won't ACCEPT that their beliefs are wrong.
They won't accept that the Bible contain errors. They just won't. If I, as a human person, tell you that insects have four legs, they will say I am wrong but if I say, "I got this from the Bible" they will ILLOGICALLY AND IRRATIONALLY agree with the Bible.
-jeff
They won't accept that the Bible contain errors. They just won't. If I, as a human person, tell you that insects have four legs, they will say I am wrong but if I say, "I got this from the Bible" they will ILLOGICALLY AND IRRATIONALLY agree with the Bible.
-jeff
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Jeff, I think you believe strongly in your views too. I guess that makes you also "hopelessly brainwashed" because you "won't accept that your beliefs are wrong"?netrox said:
You won't accept that the Bible is without flaw. You just won't. You use logic and rational to convince yourself (and others) to totally disagree with the Bible.
The way I see it there are these possible eventual outcomes:
A. I believe in Jesus Christ, and God's ability to preserve His word in the Bible and I die and find out I am right and am granted forgiveness and eternal life
B. I Believe in Jesus Christ, and that God's words are preserved in the Bible and I die and find out I am wrong, so what have I lost?
C. I don't believe in Jesus Christ, and that God's words aren't true in the Bible and I die and find out I am wrong and loose salvation and eternal life.
D. I don't believe in Jesus Christ, and that God's words are not true in the Bible and I die and find out I am right, so what have I gained?
No, we are not brainwashed by religious beliefs because you including us are under the Word of God.netrox said:
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
This verse explains what YOU clearly see and understand . Did you see the grass, trees, animals, water, clouds, mountains, people, etc.? They were created by God. Therefore YOU have NO excuse.
Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened
This verse explains that you know Him, but you refuse to glory Him or to thank Him because God gave you the life on the earth. When you refuse to thank Him for His creation, your heart is foolish and darkened.
John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made
The Bible teaches 2 things:
1. We exist because Jesus Christ created us.
2. We would not exist if Jesus Christ did not create us.
Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good
This verse refers to Romans 1:21 because many atheists are called themselves, "FOOL." These atheists are FOOLS who refused to glory God and thank Him because they clearly see and understand what God created here.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned
Anyone who do not believe the Bible cannot understand it because they are FOOLS and their heart is FOOLISH -- No excuse!!!
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Wow.. More Bible Thumpers crawled out of the woodwork! 
Simply put, I believe prayer works.
Simply put, I believe prayer works.
Codger says: "You won't accept that the Bible is without flaw. You just won't. You use logic and rational to convince yourself (and others) to totally disagree with the Bible."
You got that right. The logic is pretty simple: if the Bible is divine and has no errors, then there should be no errors whatsoever - logical, scientific, and spiritually. But the errors are found therefore the Bible isn't divine.
Logic never loses. It wins no matter how hard you try to twist it. Popularity never changes logic and cannot do that. You simply cannot make 1+1=3 no matter how hard you try to make it.
It's like supersitutous gamblers are convinced that they'll win a lot when they use one of the "beat the odds" systems but the logic is very clear - the house has the advantage therefore the gambler never wins in the long run. It's just a simple fact yet so many gamblers believe in illogical systems that purports to help them beat the odds.
Askjo, are you reading what you're saying? You are constantly quoting from the Bible as the only source of truth.
"Did you see the grass, trees, animals, water, clouds, mountains, people, etc.? They were created by God. "
I see nature and I can see how it all comes perfectly without a need for a Designer but anyone is FREE to believe that a Designer is behind the force and one needs to present a burden of proof and so far, no one has convinced me otherwise. Science has never found God or any supernatural involved to support theories of theologians. I have read many so called physics books that claim to offer evidence of God but they're mostly fluff with no substance - they're all philosophical, not scientific. Supernatural experiments have been tried many times without success.
I am perfectly aware that it is *difficult* to comprehend the whole process behind the evolution - it is much easier to believe in a fairy tale than to believe in a theory that's way too complex for them to digest. It still NOT give them the right to promote ignorance. If they present evidence that's strong enough to refute the current evolution theory, then they should but they don't have it. They have been refuted and proved wrong over and over just like Flat Earth Society has been proven wrong over and over. Creationism is same as Flat Earth Society - they are denying scientific facts. One hundred years later, creationists will be viewed as cretin idiots.
-jeff
You got that right. The logic is pretty simple: if the Bible is divine and has no errors, then there should be no errors whatsoever - logical, scientific, and spiritually. But the errors are found therefore the Bible isn't divine.
Logic never loses. It wins no matter how hard you try to twist it. Popularity never changes logic and cannot do that. You simply cannot make 1+1=3 no matter how hard you try to make it.
It's like supersitutous gamblers are convinced that they'll win a lot when they use one of the "beat the odds" systems but the logic is very clear - the house has the advantage therefore the gambler never wins in the long run. It's just a simple fact yet so many gamblers believe in illogical systems that purports to help them beat the odds.
Askjo, are you reading what you're saying? You are constantly quoting from the Bible as the only source of truth.
"Did you see the grass, trees, animals, water, clouds, mountains, people, etc.? They were created by God. "
I see nature and I can see how it all comes perfectly without a need for a Designer but anyone is FREE to believe that a Designer is behind the force and one needs to present a burden of proof and so far, no one has convinced me otherwise. Science has never found God or any supernatural involved to support theories of theologians. I have read many so called physics books that claim to offer evidence of God but they're mostly fluff with no substance - they're all philosophical, not scientific. Supernatural experiments have been tried many times without success.
I am perfectly aware that it is *difficult* to comprehend the whole process behind the evolution - it is much easier to believe in a fairy tale than to believe in a theory that's way too complex for them to digest. It still NOT give them the right to promote ignorance. If they present evidence that's strong enough to refute the current evolution theory, then they should but they don't have it. They have been refuted and proved wrong over and over just like Flat Earth Society has been proven wrong over and over. Creationism is same as Flat Earth Society - they are denying scientific facts. One hundred years later, creationists will be viewed as cretin idiots.
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netrox said:
Luke 10:38-42
" Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her ".
So, are you sayin' that Jesus brainwashed me, if I were in Mary's shoes to listen His Word ? Why do you say the word "religious" when Jesus don't have one ? Jesus is God. There's no religion !
CyberRed said:
Christianity is a religion. Christianity has a set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader, Jesus Christ. When one use the word, religious... they are talking about you and the other Christians, not Jesus, Mary or God. Followers of Jesus Christ are religious, not Jesus Christ himself. It's not the same thing.
Source: Dictionary.com
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Netrox, so you won't let people you disagree with live the kind of life they chose because it is what makes them happy, content, etc without resorting to the kind of commentary that you do? I know I, at one time or another, am guilty of the same thing at times but I am determined, at least for today, to bend over backwards........
