Prayers

[The*Empress]

well anyway...
I guess I say my prayer to not come back here in the alldeaf forum.
Laiegirl doesn't like me.
And there is no religion forum for us to make thread in.

And I posted too many offtopic and RavenSteven
isn't here either.

Bye all.

 

[Maria]

Off-Topic : Psst...Miss *P -- here's some banana split ice cream. Have a nice day ! Make sure you come back when you feel better.

 

[Malfoyish]

well anyway...
I guess I say my prayer to not come back here in the alldeaf forum.
Laiegirl doesn't like me.
And there is no religion forum for us to make thread in.

And I posted too many offtopic and RavenSteven
isn't here either.

Bye all.

Bye!!!

Anyway.

I believe prayer to be a form of admitting to one's self our most desired wishes. I am in no way saying that I do not believe in God. I believe that there is something - you may call me an agnostic if you wish. I speak for myself only when I say that I do not pray...instead, I'll say to myself, "Gosh, if anyone's listening...I'd sure LOVE to catch a break...win the lottery or something...or perhaps get one of my books published..." Something to that extent...in a way, it's praying, but it is more so of my admitting to myself what it is that I'd like to accomplish. I don't know. My faith nowadays is equivalent to that of a grain of sugar. I also believe that most of our good fortune, when we do have some, is brought on by mostly ourselves, and pure dumb luck.

I am in no way saying I do not believe in God or in prayer, nor am I saying it is worthless to pray. If you are religious and find prayer comforting, then I am completely understanding of that - I support you for it, and don't judge in any way. That isn't what I am all about. However...I am simply stating that I do not refer to these "inner speakings" as prayers, but rather being honest with one's self. For example...if any of my kids was in the hospital with some kind of illness, I would say to myself..."God...I hope he/she pulls through, please, PLEASE let them pull through!..." But...I would not find myself in the chapel, on my knees.

But then again, most of you know that I'm strange.

 

[deafdyke]

I am not religous but am quite spiritual...and I believe that praying can help a lot. When I had my ear surgery as a teen I got prayed for...and my hearing improved in the ear that wasn't operated on! My ENT is the best one in the world, and HE'd never seen such a thing happen!

 

[Beowulf]

It does not matter what religion you "belong" to. Prayer works. I like all the posts in this thread, even though insisting that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way is offensive to a lot of people. I am one of them. I am a Deist, and I humbly pray I can keep from losing my temper when others tell me that I am wrong in that belief. I greatly respect all religions, there are many of them, and to claim that one is superior to another makes prayer impossible. It makes it impossible because it requests help from a Higher Source, whatever your perception of that may be, and to set your stone in heart makes progress impossible.
I have recently watched a friend's friend make an amazing recovery. I know in my heart of hearts that the doctors did not do this. Sure, they operated and bandaged her up, but there is a MYSTERY to what makes healing happen. It is, as a poet said, "The force that drives the green fuse."
I am so grateful my friend will make it, and it brings it home smack into my heart that I have no power whatsoever, that I am dependent on some weird sort of Grace.
Yeah, I am praying again.
So sue me.

 

[jazzy]

Care to explain what you mean?

True, if I say something about it then they will call me the devil cuz it is not God's way, it is their belief. It just come up to me one night and opened my crown of head and pour into me. I witnessed God work among us and shamans only work on the surface and underworld.True, they are healers, only come from higher source. With Jesus Christ, He is different from them cuz He is most powerful and is in charge of the unverisal. I answer to Him only because He was the one who opened me up and brought me home with Him long time ago. I forgot all about it till He showed me few years ago.

I had a near death experience once and I was healed because God wanted me to stay here. Otherwise I would have gone home with Him and never be here on AD. My mother prayed to God and asked Him to take me home with Him cuz the doctor told her they were nothing they can do for me at that time. It was horrible moment for my parents and sibilings. But someone else prayed to God to let me to live and promised to take care of me. Her prayer was answered. I am here because of her. She needs me more than anyone need me then. Now will of God I am here and thankful for the gift of life He gave it to me and share them with me. My memory came back to me as I get older that is how I remembered His golden light twirling around me and into me, while I was sleeping peaceful alike a baby then send me back to earth. Shaman could not do this because they are not God. They have to ask first before they can do the healings.

 

[Mitcham]

Everyone must say "through Jesus's name in their prayer,before Amen, because God will listen you. It is very important words.

 

[Askjo]

If the Bible is real, the prayer is real.

 

[Askjo]

We can pray for anything but it is up to Jesus's permission. He can let it to happens or not.

It is up to God's will to be done.

 

[Askjo]

Prayer: God look at the heart to see, if the person is willin' to surrender himself/herself to God and, also repent he/she needs to ask God to forgive for their sins before God can move to meet her/his needs. God want that person to ask others' for their forgiveness if, there's anythin' "fault" in it or "arguments" or "sins" first before, he/she can ask God for His Forgiveness. God is not interestin' in a person's mind, only in the H E A R T.

Amen to that.

 

[Vance]

Malfoyish, Beowulf, deafdyke and Mitcham,

True, if I say something about it then they will call me the devil cuz it is not God's way, it is their belief. It just come up to me one night and opened my crown of head and pour into me. I witnessed God work among us and shamans only work on the surface and underworld.True, they are healers, only come from higher source. With Jesus Christ, He is different from them cuz He is most powerful and is in charge of the unverisal. I answer to Him only because He was the one who opened me up and brought me home with Him long time ago. I forgot all about it till He showed me few years ago.

I had a near death experience once and I was healed because God wanted me to stay here. Otherwise I would have gone home with Him and never be here on AD. My mother prayed to God and asked Him to take me home with Him cuz the doctor told her they were nothing they can do for me at that time. It was horrible moment for my parents and sibilings. But someone else prayed to God to let me to live and promised to take care of me. Her prayer was answered. I am here because of her. She needs me more than anyone need me then. Now will of God I am here and thankful for the gift of life He gave it to me and share them with me. My memory came back to me as I get older that is how I remembered His golden light twirling around me and into me, while I was sleeping peaceful alike a baby then send me back to earth. Shaman could not do this because they are not God. They have to ask first before they can do the healings.

Gotcha. I understand what you mean. I also didn't share my spiritual experience with the public too because of "devil" comments like what you said in your post. Apparently that it is much easier for me to shut up than speaking up in the public and deal with close-mindedness. I am not implying that AD'ers are close-minded people and all, I never say that. Just implying that I noticed that some of christians would say that to me whenever I bring up about it.

I want to discuss a bit more about this:

Shaman could not do this because they are not God. They have to ask first before they can do the healings.

According to my knowledge that they (shamans) never claim that they are 'God'. But I am not sure if they do or do not ask before they can do the healing. I don't know how much you know about Native American culture but most of these tribes tend to kneel and give their thanks to Creator (God) whenever they slay the animals for survival reasons. There is much more about these Native American and their wonderful spirituality belief. I am glad that you decide to share your view with us

 

[Askjo]

During the time of the apostles, God granted special healing gifts to the apostles as signs to the Jews that Jesus was the Messiah, and that the apostles were His representatives and writers of the New Testament books. It was to show their authority was from God. When the apostles died, that gift died with them. No person since then has the spiritual gift of healing.

Correct, because the healing is a powerful tool. Not today.

 

[Vance]

If the Bible is real, the prayer is real.

By your logic: The bible is written by humans and to err is human so therefore bible does contain the errors. Thus, prayer is a error?

 

[Reba]

By your logic: The bible is written by humans and to err is human so therefore bible does contain the errors. Thus, prayer is a error?

No, you are not making a logical statement.

 

[Vance]

Yes, I do believe that I did. Well, you are entitled to your opinion or your religious belief.

Only because someone don't believe that the Bible does contain the errors does not mean that there isn't any logic. Thanks.

 

[Askjo]

By your logic: The bible is written by humans and to err is human so therefore bible does contain the errors. Thus, prayer is a error?

The human writers, whom God selected, wrote the OT and the NT. The Holy Spirit moved them to write down God's Words. Therefore the Scriptures are given by the inspiration of God.

If the Bible contains the errors, you said God is in error Himself. Please show me, what errors in the Bible?

 

[Gemtun]

For me, prayer is simply a dialogue between me and God. It is a time where I reflect on things and talk to Him.

I dont care what it says in Bible or whatever literature or whatnot...prayers DOES help because it calms me down. Buddhists call it mediation. Catholics use rosary beads for mediations. I find prayers/mediations truly helpful with soothing my fears.

I pray as much as I can ..it really helps me collect my thoughts and ask for what my heart truly desires. I do not expect God to answer every single of my prayer...by talking to God, it helps me figure out what I want or need.

Prayers does help with health issues because faith is waht we need if we want to beat issues, etc. We cannot do it alone without faith. If one has faith, he/she would be more likely to be praying or mediate.

 

[Banjo]

The human writers, whom God selected, wrote the OT and the NT. The Holy Spirit moved them to write down God's Words. Therefore the Scriptures are given by the inspiration of God.

If the Bible contains the errors, you said God is in error Himself. Please show me, what errors in the Bible?

The error in the bible is that people depend on the bible far too much.

 

[Banjo]

The human writers, whom God selected, wrote the OT and the NT. The Holy Spirit moved them to write down God's Words. Therefore the Scriptures are given by the inspiration of God.

If the Bible contains the errors, you said God is in error Himself. Please show me, what errors in the Bible?

Nobody said that God made errors... only that the human beings made the errors.

 

[Vance]

The human writers, whom God selected, wrote the OT and the NT. The Holy Spirit moved them to write down God's Words. Therefore the Scriptures are given by the inspiration of God.

If the Bible contains the errors, you said God is in error Himself. Please show me, what errors in the Bible?

Oh goodness, not that old, old and old but utterly failed argument by christians.

Well, based on your statement, the Holy Spirit moved Dan Brown to write down God's Words in Da Vinci Code book. Therefore the Words in Da Vinci Code book are given by the inspiration of God too.

I guess someone will never, never get it. By nature, to err is human. Where did I said that God is in error himself? Where and when did I ever said that? I repeat: to err is human. As you may already know that by nature, humans are sinner beings, don't kid yourself. If the Bible is personally written by God, believe me, all of us will shut up for good but as long as the Bible is written by humans, by nature law, there are errors in the Bible.

Nobody said that God made errors... only that the human beings made the errors.

Thank you for pointing it out.

Meg, excellent post :thumb