Plan to Build Mosque Near Ground Zero Riles 9/11 Families

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CJB said:
Exactly. Extremist Christians like Fred Phelps and his congregation are the minority. Extremist Muslim terrorist groups are the minority. It's absurd to generalize either extremist group to the whole religion they claim to identify with.
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Yup, I agreed with you about that.

I fixed the grammar error in my post above.
 
Replace religion with deafness. One deaf person does a bad thing so all deaf people do bad things. Neither fair nor accurate.
 
flip said:
1% is a lot! It's aprox 1 billion muslims in the world. 1% of 1 billion is 10 millions. 10 million terrorist who claim they are killing civilians in the name of Allah?
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I said around under 1%, could be 0.5%, 0.2%, 0.1%, 0.022%, 0.011%, etc.
 
souggy said:
That's why you don't use actual numbers when making comparative unless you got facts behind it.
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None is fact, it is just my guess about estimate number.

Muslim terrorists are very minority like Christian terrorists do.
 
souggy said:
Kinda funny that the Constitution doesn't match up with his view of being American.
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Let me ask you this. Suppose a mosque is built there so close to Ground Zero, will extremists celebrate this little victory or not? Would it be reasonable that they would do so? And where did I say it shouldn't be built? I said it'd be quite insensitive to do so it being so close to Ground Zero.
 
flip said:
Naming organizations like "9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America" and "Stop Islamization of America" sounds a bit extreme to me.
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Purely an emotional reaction. Sad, really. But nice to see the number of posts that have risen above that.
 
kokonut said:
Let me ask you this. Suppose a mosque is built there so close to Ground Zero, will extremists celebrate this little victory or not? Would it be reasonable that they would do so? And where did I say it shouldn't be built? I said it'd be quite insensitive to do so it being so close to Ground Zero.
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How does Islam extremists are related to mosques?
 
Foxrac said:
I said around under 1%, could be 0.5%, 0.2%, 0.1%, 0.022%, 0.011%, etc.
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I got your point, but couldn't resist making a point about how few "muslim" terrorists it really is compared to normal muslims. 0.5% is 5 millions, still too much. Another problem is the term "terrorist", used very loosely. If terrorists are people killing civilans to scare politicans, I would guess perhaps 5000 people worldwide? How many percent of 1 billion is that?
 
"Normal muslims." What is that anyway? Doesn't make any sense. What is a "normal" Muslim? I'm curious.

As for killing, 5000 worldwide, is that annually or total so far?
 
kokonut said:
"Normal muslims." What is that anyway? Doesn't make any sense. What is a "normal" Muslim? I'm curious.

As for killing, 5000 worldwide, is that annually or total so far?
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Ok, I mean, muslims who just eat, make love, work and happen to worship Allah.

I guess 5000 people around the world are ready to kill civilians in the name of Allah right now. So not anually or so far, but at the moment.
 
kokonut said:
"Normal muslims." What is that anyway? Doesn't make any sense. What is a "normal" Muslim? I'm curious.

As for killing, 5000 worldwide, is that annually or total so far?
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What's a normal Christian?
 
kokonut said:
No, I won't leave out American values. I didn't specify any ethnic values but American values.
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And therein lies the problem. Your extreme ethnocentrism in the consideration of everything.
 
flip said:
Ok, I mean, muslims who just eat, make love, work and happen to worship Allah.

I guess 5000 people around the world are ready to kill civilians in the name of Allah right now. So not anually or so far, but at the moment.
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Well, that includes extremists as well. In fact, it could describe those sleeper cells, too.

I see. And how did you come up with that number?
 
You didn't even specify what "American values" are.

When it's left hanging, all one can do is try to gauge it from the surrounding sentences which had negative views of Islam; which is in opposition of "freedom of religion."
 
What are "American values?" Are they identified with a trademark symbol? Little lapel flags? So many people throw around the phrase but have no real definition for it.
 
kokonut said:
Well, that includes extremists as well. In fact, it could describe those sleeper cells, too.

I see. And how did you come up with that number?
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And, that would also include the extremists that subscribe to Christianity.:cool2: Would you like to have your particular faith judged based on the extremists alone?
 
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