Obesity Epidemic

[Catmandu]

Thats good, Katzie..do you take Synthroid for your underactive thyroid?
I take it cuz i had parathyroidism.

I used to take Synthroid. Currently I am taking Levoxyl and Cyctomel.

My uncle just had a sub-total parathyroidectomy because his parathyroid were producing too much calcium. Is yours like that, too?

 

[Mistyrose]

I used to take Synthroid. Currently I am taking Levoxyl and Cyctomel.

My uncle just had a sub-total parathyroidectomy because his parathyroid were producing too much calcium. Is yours like that, too?

Yes that is exactly the same problem i had..producing too much calcium so had the surgery to correct that.

 

[Maria]

Walk exercise helps to shed few kilos and good for your health. I noticed lots of American cannot live without a car, they drive to pick up kids or grocery, what wrong with bicycle or walk.

McDonald have introduced its good healthy 97 to 99% fat free foods such as Chicken roll up, yoghurt berry, salads, its up to people to buy fatty foods, not to take the blame on fast-food chains as an excuse!

6 piece of Cadbury chocolate is same as dinner meals as I learnt it from Weight Watcher's. Chocolate is very very fatty.

Yep. I do ridin' on my 10 speed bicycle everyday to my work. I walk alot everyday for 3 years. My doctor told me that my blood showed an excellent (low cholestrol) and my blood pressure looked great. If, people don't exercise much, then, their "fat" will build up in their bloodstreams and it will cause their heart an attack.

For young children/adults, they have lots of PH alkaline in their bodies, but when they gets older...let's say after the age of 35 or older, their PH alkaline went down and this will create more health problems. I just learned about PH alkaline and it is very interestin' about how the body works relatin' to the heart.

I will try to get a copy and insert somethin' in this thread to give everyone some ideas. It might help for everyone to understand better with some pictures since some deafies are visualized like myself. LOL I will find my files in my cabinet before I could insert some in.

 

[deafdyke]

SubWay is excellent for you !!

Ugh...I hate subway! I like D' Angelo's better!
I'm overweight myself....I don't eat too much but b/c I've had endocrine problems in the past,(thyroid probs as a little girl...I forget exactly what the dx was but I had to take Tapazole) plus I have hypotonia, I' m overweight. I exercise quite a bit (kayaking, night skiing with my daddy, walking and riding my bike) but those pounds just seem to stay there....grrrr!!!!!

 

[Lasza]

I do not trust Atkins diet since there are documented health problems related to it, even if it seems like a coincidence. I have lost 30 lbs from being on the south beach diet, but there are always reasons why a person is overweight or obese - genetic, health issues, psychological issues, etc... with pregnancy it's easy to pack on some lbs, as well. A person can be just depressed - and be addicted to food instead of alcohol or drugs. Laziness seems rather convenient for others to pin on something they know nothing about.

I don't blame u for that. Today, I found out about my mother did take Atkin's Diet for a while till yesterday. It wrecked her health recently. Will find out what's going on.
My granadmother emailed me if i take Atkin's Diet lately. I told her in email that I refuse take it due of my instinct tell me something kinda negative to me.

 

[VamPyroX]

Maybe, the Atkins diet isn't for her. Not every diet is for everyone. That's why they usually say "See a doctor before trying this." in those diet commercials. I have a friend who lost 10 lbs in two weeks on the Atkins diet. I have another friend who can't do the Atkins diet because it doesn't work on her. It usually differs on the individual. I lost 40 lbs in 3 months on that diet.

 

[e]

Maybe, the Atkins diet isn't for her. Not every diet is for everyone. That's why they usually say "See a doctor before trying this." in those diet commercials. I have a friend who lost 10 lbs in two weeks on the Atkins diet. I have another friend who can't do the Atkins diet because it doesn't work on her. It usually differs on the individual. I lost 40 lbs in 3 months on that diet.

definiately agreed. people need to experiment with different kind of diets. i dont mind to try out atkins but i dont believe in eating foods without or very little carb because your body still needs it. it still needs every nutrition. when youre a veggie or on diet, you still need to know and carefully what you eat daily because of balancing your nutritious needs. of course, excerise! you need keep your heart stronger, the longer you'll live!

 

[Maria]

Globesity gains ground as leading killer

MSN just announced its news on "Globesity gains ground as leading killer". I am sure some of you have read them at MSN online. In case, if some of you haven't read...please, read it below I just copied and pasted the link. Enjoy readin' for your future benefits.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4900095/?GT1=3391

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Good & interesting Thread, CyberRed

Yes, I'm agree with you RedRum because I saw Americans do like this here in Germany.

I use Trennkost (German word) = Food combining sometimes.

I would not take Atkin diet when I were you because the Carbohydrate is the most important foods for energy & nutrition needs which it's good for mornings.
I use Trennkost (German word) = Food combining sometimes.

Example of all:
I ate carbohydrate/neutral at breakfast time like cereals, toast with butter, jam, cheese e.g.

I ate Neutral at between break time like fruits/raw vegetable (carrot or celery)

I ate Protein/neutral at evening snack like any cook meats with salads without potatoes, pasta, e.g because it's belong carbohydrate.

You should not mix carbohydrate with Protein but Neutral...

Here is the websites (Don't worry, it's English... ).

http://www.kaikracht.de/foodcomb/english/index.htm

http://www.kaikracht.de/foodcomb/english/index3.htm

I will be happy to create a TrennKost (Food Combining) receipes thread with list of foods if you all are still interesting.

I can't live without carbohydrates that's why I rather to use Trennkost diet. :Oops:

 

[Mistyrose]

I do not trust Atkins diet since there are documented health problems related to it, even if it seems like a coincidence. I have lost 30 lbs from being on the south beach diet, but there are always reasons why a person is overweight or obese - genetic, health issues, psychological issues, etc... with pregnancy it's easy to pack on some lbs, as well. A person can be just depressed - and be addicted to food instead of alcohol or drugs. Laziness seems rather convenient for others to pin on something they know nothing about.

Liza..what is the difference between Atkins and South Beach diet? it seems to me that they are about the same except that SB allows fruit and some grains? And since sugar is the cause of weight gain and you know that fruit and grains have sugar in them so therefore they are fattening? also some veggies does have sugar in them too...kinda confusing to me.

 

[Liza]

Sounds interesting Liebling! I'll check that out soon. Whoo!

Defee, I don't know about Atkins, but SBD focuses on the nutrition for a more healthy heart. Originally this was designed by a cardiologist to help with heart patients, but he found it had the benefit of helping people losing weight. It's not low carb nor is it low fat either - it even helps eliminate nasty carb addictions to bread and sweets. I can vouch for that!!! The key is to focus on the right carbs and right fats with good timing (eat 4-6 times per day). According to some nutritionists on the SBD message board I used to post at for a few months, Atkins seems to accept the bad kind of fats as well as the good fats, and that's probably why you see some people having health problems from it. I don't know the rest of the deal on Atkins. Some may know more about it than I do. Great if it works for some without negative side effects! Always drink plenty of water, too.

As for some fruits and other healthy food having sugar - I think you are referring to the GI - Glyemic Index. It has to do with one's blood sugar. If you eat something very sweet, more likely it will have a high GI - which will drive the blood sugar crazy, therefore you will have an urge to binge on food later on. Snacks between meals are a reason to prevent this from happening. I usually have some cheese or some natural peanut butter on celery between meals. HMmmmm cheese.

Just follow your instincts on what is right for ya and consult with yer doctor first hopefully. SBD is one of many diets out there. For me, health comes first before losing weight so I'm not looking for quickies to fit in a bikini this summer. I think that's the problem - wanting results quick without any regard for one's health. LOL

http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,,s1-5345,00.html

 

[Mistyrose]

Sounds interesting Liebling! I'll check that out soon. Whoo!

Defee, I don't know about Atkins, but SBD focuses on the nutrition for a more healthy heart. Originally this was designed by a cardiologist to help with heart patients, but he found it had the benefit of helping people losing weight. It's not low carb nor is it low fat either - it even helps eliminate nasty carb addictions to bread and sweets. I can vouch for that!!! The key is to focus on the right carbs and right fats with good timing (eat 4-6 times per day). According to some nutritionists on the SBD message board I used to post at for a few months, Atkins seems to accept the bad kind of fats as well as the good fats, and that's probably why you see some people having health problems from it. I don't know the rest of the deal on Atkins. Some may know more about it than I do. Great if it works for some without negative side effects! Always drink plenty of water, too.

As for some fruits and other healthy food having sugar - I think you are referring to the GI - Glyemic Index. It has to do with one's blood sugar. If you eat something very sweet, more likely it will have a high GI - which will drive the blood sugar crazy, therefore you will have an urge to binge on food later on. Snacks between meals are a reason to prevent this from happening. I usually have some cheese or some natural peanut butter on celery between meals. HMmmmm cheese.

Just follow your instincts on what is right for ya and consult with yer doctor first hopefully. SBD is one of many diets out there. For me, health comes first before losing weight so I'm not looking for quickies to fit in a bikini this summer. I think that's the problem - wanting results quick without any regard for one's health. LOL

http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,,s1-5345,00.html

Yes, thats what i was trying to think..GI..Glyemic Index..thats what i meant.
Interesting! about SB! it does make sense and sounds more healthy than Atkins..my husband is on it and so far it is working for him but i worry about it cuz he eats a lot of meat!..yikes! I eat mostly chicken, fish and sometimes turkey..i eat a lot of salad and steamed veggies..I try not to eat too much fruit though, but i eat some once in awhile so guess im doing ok.
Sounds like you doing great on SB diet! keep up the good work!
Thanks again for the info, Liza!

 

[Breezy]

This is a really awesome thread! Nice work!

It's neat to read everyone's feedback. I have the opposite problem - i can't keep weight on. It's coz i have bad lungs, so i have to do the opposite and eat all the time. I'ts getting better though! I've gained 8 lbs in the last 2 weeks thanx to kicking this infection!

I don't think that McDonalds or fast food is to blame for obsesity though - i just think that ppl plain and simple are getting lazier and lazier and don't give a damn about themselves. Genetics however you can't control, but as long as you do what you can about it to keep yourself healthy and happy than that's fine. Lots of ppl are naturally chubby, but for the others who dont' give a flying shit, that's there problem.

 

[Vance]

Warning: long post

Well, you know the quote, "You are what you eat"? It is true and it is fact. If you eat the fast foods, industrial foods, chemicals-laced foods, etc etc then you treat yourself or your body cheap hence it will cause you number of health problems included obesity. Our body have only once in a lifetime, unlikely video games.. so we definitely have to watch out for what we eat or our consquences will come out and hit us back in later time, it is to be guarantee to do so.

I don't plan to take Atkins diet. I am vegetarian person. Cow/pig meats makes me sick when eatin' them. It contains hormones/antibotics in them and it's bad for health. Hormones/antibotics can cause cancer... imagine that how many times a week people are eatin' meats with hormones/antibotics in it per year? *thud* I can imagine it is alot ! I don't want to die young. I want to live long time !

That is true but you can get or buy the organic meats from organic-certifcated farms where there are absolutely zero of these shitty chemicals. I had been eating the organic meats for almost 6 years now, in fact I ate real lots of organic meats and know what? My cholesterol and cardiovascular measurement is so excellent that it baffled my doctor when asked me what kind of diet I ate.

Concerning about vegetables.. if didn't consume the organic vegetables then being vegetarian may not help anyone because of pesticides, herbicides, fertilizer and more that will affect vegetarian greatly more than non-vegetarians. Organic is the key to our health and our future generation. Recent researches confirmed that there are high measure of pesticides in americans' bodies... Sweden researches found that consuming the industrial (non-organic) vegetables/fruits will retard the child's chemical growing included brain cells hence why we have shorter and shorter people plus frighteningly faster increasing of prematures, child obesities, etc unlikely in the past. In 70's we were taller than europeans but today, europeans are taller than us. Scary is it? Really, no matter what kind of diet you are on, consuming which industrial (non-organic) and organic foods makes a huge difference in our bodies, believe it or not.. millions of researches confirmed the difference. To some people who don't know what "organic" means, it means absolute no industrial chemcials, it is pure old-fashioned farming method like medieval time or older than that.

I studied real lots on health issues included non-organic/organic foods, government-apporval medicines/diets, proteins, fats, list goin' on.. you should have seen my books on the shelves, it is like a small library on health/foods alone. I don't want to be an ignorance or part of "white sheeps" so I had to focus on what I really need to know. Actually, my mom have great influences on me.. When I was born, I was a very sick baby and had to stay in ICU for several days (also cried constantly), my doctors gave me the formula milk and it made everything worser. My mom disagreed with doctors and want to breast-feed me but doctors denied and in fact, threatened my mom to not let her to not breast-feed or will not release me out from hospital. So my dad had a idea and told the doctors that we will use the foruma milk to feed me, doctors suddenly cooperates with my parents (they had been uncooperated for few days) and release me out of hospital. My parents, of course lied to them and change to breast-milk to fed me and I got well pretty fast.

So it got my mom wonder why did government/doctors heavily supported the foruma milk? My mom decided to choose different life by researched and rejected then found the ugliest facts you can ever imagine (back in 70's, there aren't enough information on health/foods issues like today) and decided to not trust government on health/foods issues.. boy, I am glad that she did.

For example, I was a strict vegetarian and I absolutely regretted my decision.. I lost my good 35 lbs of muscles that I worked hard for two years and become sick and weak.. The fact is (proved by Sweden researches) that any vegetarians cannot have muscular bodies or well-structured bodies due to several missing important amino acids and important hormones, HGH a.k.a. Human Growth Hormones, IGF a.k.a. Insulin-like Growth Factor.. HGH or IGF cannot manufacture in our bodies without these specific amino acids from only meats, it cannot be obtain from vegetables, grains or fruits. Sweden had a group test on non-vegetarian and vegetarian diet for children, it was astounding test because kids could not grow properly who lives on vegetarian diet like weight, bone structure, bone marrow thickness, lack of secondary muscles (very very important.. spinal muscles are part of "secondary muscles", if not enough or weak secondary muscles, it will be nightmare for anyone who wants to play the sports or physical activities) and more unlikely on kids who consumed meat diets. That's why Sweden government has some consideration about ban the vegetarian/vegan/fruitarian diets because when vegetarian diet were introduced to Sweden culture and number of health problems suddenly increase.. You know, Sweden hosptials are free so they could not afford to give the service if their health proiblems increase skyrocketed so they have been consider to ban these diets completely. Sweden diet is considering as near-perfection diet because of heavy meats and fats, they rarely have the diseases like americans do.

More information in next post, this post gets WAY too long.

 

[Vance]

There are few africian tribes that lives on only blood, milk and meats.. their average height is 6'4" and their average weight is 200 lbs. Can you ever imagine how strong they are? They are well-know for being ferocious warriors. Not even africian soldiers dare to invade their lands and actually fear them. There are few articles about that africian tribe and pictures too, I saw the pictures.. wow their bone looks big (like shoulders or chest). Rumors is that they can live longer than 120 years.

My mom told me many times that the key is to be so healthy by do what our ancestors do.. it means, eat more organic meats, more organic fats and less vegetables, fruits and grains. Look at our ancestors back in medieval time or older, their bones are incredibly strong, far strong than us.. if I hit you with a wooden bat, you will knock out for several hours or longer but as for these ancestors, if I hit them and they will shrug off my hit with bit or no dizzy. Archaeologists proved that as well by looking into our ancestors' bones. We will not be here if ancestors changed their diet to vegetarians, fruitarians, vegan etc diets or "America" diet as well. There are many tests by Sweden, Germany, Europe etc etc that found vegetarians could not live longer in wilderness compare to meat eaters like ancestors can do.

What kind of diet I am on? I am on "ancestor" diet or Nourishing Traditions/Weston A. Price diet, you can check out more information about Nourishing Tradition at amazon.com. Weston A. Price's site is at http://www.westonaprice.org/ There are numbers of articles on different diets, chemcials, etc.. I strongly suggest all of you to check it out because these are purely pure scientific proofs about these health issues. There are increasing the numbers of people who are health-awareness start off and follow Weston A. Price or Nourishing Traditions (NT) diet.

Socrates, I am sorry but I had to disagree with you about genes, I don't believe that it is genes that affects our bodies like obesity but I do support that whoever eats lousy diets will affect thier children and futures like today. No one can get fat or health problems with Weson A. Price or NT diet, it is virtually impossible to be fat. I don't think our ancestors (who lives on high proteins, high on good fats) ever has obesity problem...

Oh yeah, there are two different about fats as well, there is good and bad fats. Not all fats are good, not all fats are bad. For example, consume lots of raw and organic butter will offer you top cardiovascular and heart condition. The non-profit organization tests proved that as well, you have to remember that many of these tests were paid by government or corporates so of course these tests are/will to be biased with no questions, these had to be so they can make a profit out of us.

I have lots of information or points to prove you but I think I did enough with two posts, perhaps will do more in this topic... but to summary up what I was trying to say is that fast foods aren't only source that cause obesity epidemic problem.

To parents who have the childrens, read the articles about children diet at http://www.westonaprice.org/children/children.html and be prepare for shocking proofs about what did america foods/vegetarian diets impact on your kids. Do you know that in america, it is against the law for mothers to not feed the milk to kids? Oh more about raw and real milk at http://www.realmilk.com as well, read it and I drink lots of raw/real milk and it affect me nothing but lots of health benefits. Good luck.

I know I will recieve the skeptical responses from you or debate about my facts, I am prepare for it and I have numbers and numbers of non-profit proofs to back me up so I am welcome to any kind of debate or discussion

 

[Maria]

Bingo !!

Magatsu,


Exactly! That's what I do everyday. I had some organic foods in my house. It helps me better than eatin' non-organic foods. I miss the old times foods. *Sob, sob, sob* LOL The Health Foods Store is really close to my home and I almost constantly went there, because I knew it will make me happy to EAT. It's better than a regular grocery foods store. In every time when I went in a regular grocery foods store, it makes my stomache queasy, because I look at the foods, knowin' that they have some chemicals in them.

You are perfectly correct with everything you just said in your posts (both of them - long ones. Ha!) I am so happy that you just did well-said here ! Great!
Thanks for sharin' with us!

 

[VamPyroX]

There are few africian tribes that lives on only blood, milk and meats.. their average height is 6'4" and their average weight is 200 lbs. Can you ever imagine how strong they are? They are well-know for being ferocious warriors. Not even africian soldiers dare to invade their lands and actually fear them. There are few articles about that africian tribe and pictures too, I saw the pictures.. wow their bone looks big (like shoulders or chest). Rumors is that they can live longer than 120 years.

My mom told me many times that the key is to be so healthy by do what our ancestors do.. it means, eat more organic meats, more organic fats and less vegetables, fruits and grains. Look at our ancestors back in medieval time or older, their bones are incredibly strong, far strong than us.. if I hit you with a wooden bat, you will knock out for several hours or longer but as for these ancestors, if I hit them and they will shrug off my hit with bit or no dizzy. Archaeologists proved that as well by looking into our ancestors' bones. We will not be here if ancestors changed their diet to vegetarians, fruitarians, vegan etc diets or "America" diet as well. There are many tests by Sweden, Germany, Europe etc etc that found vegetarians could not live longer in wilderness compare to meat eaters like ancestors can do.

What kind of diet I am on? I am on "ancestor" diet or Nourishing Traditions/Weston A. Price diet, you can check out more information about Nourishing Tradition at amazon.com. Weston A. Price's site is at http://www.westonaprice.org/ There are numbers of articles on different diets, chemcials, etc.. I strongly suggest all of you to check it out because these are purely pure scientific proofs about these health issues. There are increasing the numbers of people who are health-awareness start off and follow Weston A. Price or Nourishing Traditions (NT) diet.

Socrates, I am sorry but I had to disagree with you about genes, I don't believe that it is genes that affects our bodies like obesity but I do support that whoever eats lousy diets will affect thier children and futures like today. No one can get fat or health problems with Weson A. Price or NT diet, it is virtually impossible to be fat. I don't think our ancestors (who lives on high proteins, high on good fats) ever has obesity problem...

Oh yeah, there are two different about fats as well, there is good and bad fats. Not all fats are good, not all fats are bad. For example, consume lots of raw and organic butter will offer you top cardiovascular and heart condition. The non-profit organization tests proved that as well, you have to remember that many of these tests were paid by government or corporates so of course these tests are/will to be biased with no questions, these had to be so they can make a profit out of us.

I have lots of information or points to prove you but I think I did enough with two posts, perhaps will do more in this topic... but to summary up what I was trying to say is that fast foods aren't only source that cause obesity epidemic problem.

To parents who have the childrens, read the articles about children diet at http://www.westonaprice.org/children/children.html and be prepare for shocking proofs about what did america foods/vegetarian diets impact on your kids. Do you know that in america, it is against the law for mothers to not feed the milk to kids? Oh more about raw and real milk at http://www.realmilk.com as well, read it and I drink lots of raw/real milk and it affect me nothing but lots of health benefits. Good luck.

I know I will recieve the skeptical responses from you or debate about my facts, I am prepare for it and I have numbers and numbers of non-profit proofs to back me up so I am welcome to any kind of debate or discussion

That's my boy! That's me!

 

[Maria]

Cholesterol Consciousness

Here's a letter I just scanned and uploaded. I hope it shows all the words clear for readin'. *Crossin' my fingers*
CHOLESTEROL CONSCIOUSNESS
What Cholesterol Does To Your Heart
The whole issue of cholesterol can be bery confusing. You may have head that some cholesterol is good for you while other cholesterol can be harmful, but you may not know which is which. You may have been told that too much dietary cholesterol increases your risk for heart disease, but you may not know how. You can improve your cholesterol consciousness by learning about what cholesterol is, where it is found, and what it actually does to your heart.
WHAT IS CHOLESTEROL?
Cholesterol is a lipoprotein -- a fatty substance in the blood that is coated with protein. The body itself manufactures about 1,000 milligrams of cholesterol daily. Dietary cholestorel is not essential
for health, and can actually be harmful. There are several different types of cholesterol, but the two most important are LDL (low-density lipoprotein) and HDL (high-density lipoprotein). LDL has a thin protein layer and tends to deposit itself on the walls of the blood vessels, while HDL has a thick protein layer and actually removes cholesterol from the bloodstream.
CHOLESTEROL AND ATHEROSCLEROSIS
Excess cholesterol and other fats can build up on the inner walls of blood vessels -- a condition known as atherosclerosis. These fatty build-ups can restrict, and in some cases totally block, the flow of oxygen-rich blood through the blood vessels. When atherosclerosis occurs in the blood vessels that nourish the heart (coronary artery disease), chest pain and heart attack can result.
CHOLESTEROL MEASUREMENT
The only way to determine whether you have too much cholesterol
in your bloodstream is to have a laboratory blood test performed. This test will measure how many milligrams of cholesterol are present in a deciliter of blood. Depending on age, total cholesterol over 200 mg.ldl. is considered to be undesirably high. If your total cholesterol level is elevated, your physician may ask that further testing be done to find out the percentage of LDL to HDL. (Remember, LDL deposits itlself on arterial walls; HDL removes cholesterol from the bloodstream.)
CHOLESTEROL CONTROL
In most cases, a cholesterol/fat reduced diet and regular physical exercise can help lower cholesterol in the blood. Some people, however, require cholesterol-lowering drugs to keep their cholesterol within safe levels. The best advice for all of us is to reduce out intake of dietary cholesterol and fats, to exercise vigorously 3-5 times a week, and to have our cholesterol levels checked regularly.

 

[Maria]

Oh, my post with "Cholesterol Consciousness" is not that good to read with words. Dang ! *Mutterin'*

Hey, anyone of you can insert one for me in here if, you know how to make it in a proper size for readin' ? :Oops:

 

[e]

whew, that was a worth reading for me, magatsu. it was very informative and i appreicated learning about the value of organic foods. ive never learned the details of organic foods and how it would benefit your health. good thing i had some and will continue eat it. but hey, i still like to grab the fatty greasy mcd's once in a while! proud to be american!

cyberred, im afraid you'll need to type everything in here lol. try to make the picture bigger and sign up to use a site that provide free personal webpages/albums so you can post a link instead attachment. good luck!