More than one Deaf Community?

faire_jour said:
They aren't. They are hearing members of the Deaf community. They aren't Deaf.
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I have been advised by my local deaf club, that since I am deaf and my kids are hard of hearing they are deaf. They have also said that my mother, husband and my brothers would be considered deaf. They are all total hearing with no loss what-so-ever.
 
souggy said:
Then tell that to the Deaf community then. They are the ones that define the culture, not you.
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I would love to see it in a single publication, from any source.

I was told *yesterday* that AD does NOT represent the Deaf community.

I was also told, before, that my ASL using, Deaf school attending, child wasn't Deaf. Why would they count interpreters but not native ASL using children who are deaf?
 
faire_jour said:
I would love to see it in a single publication, from any source.

I was told *yesterday* that AD does NOT represent the Deaf community.

I was also told, before, that my ASL using, Deaf school attending, child wasn't Deaf. Why would they count interpreters but not native ASL using children who are deaf?
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I'm the source.

I agree with Souggy. This is my publication.

And that AD doesn't really represent the Deaf community is true as well. I've been learning a lot here. It just feels so lopsided here.

I do not know the reasons why you were told that. I would have to see that in person to determine whats up.
 
posts from hell said:
I'm the source.

I agree with Souggy. This is my publication.

And that AD doesn't really represent the Deaf community is true as well. I've been learning a lot here. It just feels so lopsided here.

I do not know the reasons why you were told that. I would have to see that in person to determine whats up.
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They said "because she has hearing parents"
 
faire_jour said:
They said "because she has hearing parents"
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*shrug* I've been told me that I wasnt Deaf because of that.

And I had a deaf child, and showed them where to put their words.

You'll learn, like I did, about the Deaf "world". They're full of hypocrites.

One person wouldnt talk to me after finding out I have hearing parents, and after I had the kid, she wanted every part of my life. It was like WTF, GTFO.
 
Here's my stab at those numbers. Of those 36 million faire jour was talking about, I suggest that there are only about 4-5 million deaf in the sense most of us here are speaking of AND that I'll further suggest of those 4-5 million, only about 300,000 to 500,000 are the true ASL-speaking community. Its kinda complicated but ....
 
Tousi said:
Here's my stab at those numbers. Of those 36 million faire jour was talking about, I suggest that there are only about 4-5 million deaf in the sense most of us here are speaking of AND that I'll further suggest of those 4-5 million, only about 300,000 to 500,000 are the true ASL-speaking community. Its kinda complicated but ....
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I've gotten the numbers...

For below 65 years old.
~585,000 are Deaf in the states.
~1.01 million are "functionally deaf."
~9 million has some hearing loss.

All age groups above 5 years old:
~3 million are deaf
~36 million has some hearing loss.
 
posts from hell said:
I've gotten the numbers...

For below 65 years old.
~585,000 are Deaf in the states.
~1.01 million are "functionally deaf."
~9 million has some hearing loss.

All age groups above 5 years old:
~3 million are deaf
~36 million has some hearing loss.
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I feel roughly the same about those numbers, especially the 585K number.
 
CODAs has their own world. It's amazing how the differences are.

Usually marriages between CODAs will last for ever.

A CODA married with a hearing person will feel different... It's true. Just like a Deaf with Hearing.

Children of Deaf Adults Inc.
 
faire_jour said:
I would love to see it in a single publication, from any source.

I was told *yesterday* that AD does NOT represent the Deaf community.

I was also told, before, that my ASL using, Deaf school attending, child wasn't Deaf. Why would they count interpreters but not native ASL using children who are deaf?
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AD doesnt represent the Deaf community as a whole. Big difference.
 
I never said the whole Deaf thing is easy. ;) Granted, if you know ASL... it's a foot in the door and usually that's enough for me, however the mindset they carry is what turn me off from certain people.

Consider this. I am accepted as culturally Deaf in most communities (barring those that like to cite bloodlines); sometimes Hard-of-Hearing, depending on the group. One of my immediate relative and two of my distant relatives are considered as culturally Deaf-- despite the fact they're fully hearing and are not CODAs. The other immediate family members are not considered as culturally Deaf. I have three distant deaf relatives-- they are not considered as culturally Deaf. Three interpreters I know are considered as culturally Deaf; the rest are not-- two of those "culturally Deaf" interpreters are not CODAs, however the third one is.

You follow me so far?

Here's the mindbender... a late-deaf who is taking ASL Level 1 is considered as culturally Deaf, with no deaf relatives, however none of the other "late-deaf" taking the same course in the same class are treated the same.

Now I will let you think about those scenarios.
 
I have hearing parents, but my grandma (hearing) have three deaf sisters. So just because someone come from hearing parents doesn't mean it isn't genetic. You can usually tell it is genetic if you have a sister or brother who is also deaf. My older sister is deaf like me. But all my other 3 siblings are hearing. If my sister or my grandma's sisters weren't born, it is easy for me to say " I don't have any family history of deaf "
 
Stereotype, stereotype, stereotype
The Deaf community is actually, overall, pretty small. Estimates put it at about 500,000 in the US but there are greater than 35 million people with hearing loss.
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Um, that's accurate but it's a bit of information that is misrepresented.
Most dhh folks are late deafened and don't really have a desire to learn ASL. They are not "oral deaf", even thou they use speech. They are culturally hearing, but are hearing impaired.
The AG Bell "pure oral" from birth community is very small. Most AG Bell folks (and even some auditory-verbaled deaf folks) eventually pick up ASL as a second language. Were you aware that it's actually very common to see 'terps at AG Bell conferences?
 
Please don't stereotype us late-deafened folks! I hate to be called "hearing impaired." I know that mid 40's may seen ancient to you, but when you get there you'll feel differently. Respect your elders, punk! :lol:
 
deafdyke said:
Um, that's accurate but it's a bit of information that is misrepresented.
Most dhh folks are late deafened and don't really have a desire to learn ASL. They are not "oral deaf", even thou they use speech. They are culturally hearing, but are hearing impaired.
The AG Bell "pure oral" from birth community is very small. Most AG Bell folks (and even some auditory-verbaled deaf folks) eventually pick up ASL as a second language. Were you aware that it's actually very common to see 'terps at AG Bell conferences?
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Yes some learn ASL as adults, but only those who were uhappy growing up oral. Do you have ANYTHING to back up the statement that it is "most"?
 
faire_jour said:
Yes some learn ASL as adults, but only those who were uhappy growing up oral. Do you have ANYTHING to back up the statement that it is "most"?
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Where the H*ll do you get off that only the late deafened who were unhappy being oral are the one learning ASL. I am late-deafened and was happy being oral growing up. I wished I had been able to learn ASL, but I NEVER regret being oral.
 
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