Marijuana

dreama said:
Well when I asked my dad about it he said it was no worse then alcohol. That might be true as Alcohol is also very damaging.
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i'm sorry, but i'm really surprised your father condoned marijunana use in his daughter. <shocked>
 
Grummer said:
spiked pot is likely to be laced with PCP-. they do it to market the stashs against competitors and then fall back on selling b or c grade gears, pcp is addictive so its a double-wham fro dealers to use it to boost their sales. Killer weeds is often a term to refer as pcp-laced weed. bad news really, best to stick with straight buds, naturally grown, but then in this day of tight control with fairly harsh penalty associated with possession of cannabis, it is very difficult but not impossible to find growers/dealers who insist on the safe, natural way of pot cultivating. even in some places (actually for most places) this is tall order and fairly rare to find honest dealers, usually you'd have to be right into the middle of pot scene in the right sort of intergenerational pot-smoking community to find it.
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That is interesting. What are the affects of PCP do you know?
 
Jiro said:
well 2 big mistakes there -
1. you did not research the drug before you take it
2. you said you "went overboard" with it. in other word - you abused it.

btw - anything you take like alcohol, weed, etc... it's all damaging. it all depends on how much you take it and how much time you put to recover.
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Oh I did research it. I got a book out of the National braille library about various drugs. And I also asked my dad about it. Aparantly some people are ok about hash so I didn't come up with anything other then the fact that it was no worse then alcohol. Since Alcohol is considered 'acceptable' I assumed canabis was too. That was a mistake I made. Just because something is 'accepteable' doesn't mean it's ok.

As for the 2nd mistake. I'll own up to that one. (embarrassed)
 
Hear Again said:
what do you mean time fragmented? <confused> were you drifting in and out of reality? if so, i know exactly what that experience is like because the same thing happens to me whenever i hear voices.
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Sorry I'm not making myself clear. Do you know the feeling when you just come round? I felt like that. Only this was happening repeatedly.
 
Hear Again said:
did you hear voices, jiro?
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not really. it's more of visual hallucinatory. as for sound - it was the ambiance sound that got intensified. For example - the "subwoofer" sound was intensified. here's what happened -

I was sitting and I was in a trance mode. I was staring at my friend laughing on the ground (he was high as well) and he was reaching out for me so he can get up. I hallucinated that I was back in Vietnam War deep in the jungle, holding the gun, seeing my friend all messed up. he was holding his gut, reaching out for me - "help me!!!!!! help me, man!!!!! help me!!!!!" suffice to say - i was scared shitless. I did hear some bomb explosions around me but what got me scared was him crying for help to me and I didn't do shit except stare at him.
 
dreama said:
Oh I did research it. I got a book out of the National braille library about various drugs. And I also asked my dad about it. Aparantly some people are ok about hash so I didn't come up with anything other then the fact that it was no worse then alcohol. Since Alcohol is considered 'acceptable' I assumed canabis was too. That was a mistake I made. Just because something is 'accepteable' doesn't mean it's ok.

As for the 2nd mistake. I'll own up to that one. (embarrassed)
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yes exactly. you must always research whatever you're taking to learn about its effect and side effect and its duration of effect. the responsible user is smart enough to do this in a controlled environment (meaning... in his own home)
 
What are the street names/slang terms for
PCP
?
Angel Dust, Embalming Fluid, Killer Weed, Rocket Fuel, Supergrass.
What is
PCP
?
PCP, or phencyclidine, is a dissociative anesthetic that was developed in the 1950s as a surgical anesthetic. Its sedative and anesthetic effects are trance-like, and patients experience a feeling of being "out of body" and detached from their environment. Use of PCP in humans was discontinued in 1965, because it was found that patients often became agitated, delusional, and irrational while recovering from its anesthetic effects.
What does it look like?
PCP is a white crystalline powder that is readily soluble in water or alcohol. It has a distinctive bitter chemical taste.
How is it used?
PCP turns up on the illicit drug market in a variety of tablets, capsules, and colored powders. It is normally used in one of three ways -- snorted, smoked, or eaten. When it is smoked, PCP is often applied to a leafy material such as mint, parsley, oregano, tobacco or marijuana. Many people who use PCP may do it unknowingly because PCP is often used as an additive and can be found in marijuana, LSD, or methamphetamine.
What are its short-term effects?

PCP: At low to moderate doses, PCP can cause distinct changes in body awareness, similar to those associated with alcohol intoxication. Other effects can include shallow breathing, flushing, profuse sweating, generalized numbness of the extremities and poor muscular coordination. Use of PCP among adolescents may interfere with hormones related to normal growth and development as well as with the learning process.

At high doses, PCP can cause hallucinations as well as seizures, coma, and death (though death more often results from accidental injury or suicide during PCP intoxication). Other effects that can occur at high doses are nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, flicking up and down of the eyes, drooling, loss of balance, and dizziness. High doses can also cause effects similar to symptoms of schizophrenia, such as delusions, paranoia, disordered thinking, a sensation of distance from one's environment, and catatonia. Speech is often sparse and garbled.

PCP has sedative effects, and interactions with other central nervous system depressants, such as alcohol and benzodiazepines, can lead to coma or accidental overdose.

Many PCP users are brought to emergency rooms because of PCP's unpleasant psychological effects or because of overdoses. In a hospital or detention setting, they often become violent or suicidal, and are very dangerous to themselves and to others. They should be kept in a calm setting and should not be left alone.

Formaldehyde (the chemical used in embalming, not in PCP): Short-term exposure to formaldehyde can be fatal; however, the odor threshold is low enough that irritation of the eyes and mucous membranes will occur before these levels are achieved.
What are its long-term effects?

PCP: PCP is addicting; that is, its use often leads to psychological dependence, craving, and compulsive PCP-seeking behavior.

People who use PCP for long periods report memory loss, difficulties with speech and thinking, depression, and weight loss. These symptoms can persist up to a year after cessation of PCP use. Mood disorders also have been reported.

Formaldehyde (the chemical used in embalming, not in PCP): Long-term exposure to low levels of formaldehyde may cause respiratory difficulty, eczema, and sensitization. Formaldehyde is classified as a human carcinogen and has been linked to nasal and lung cancer, and with possible links to brain cancer and leukemia.
What is its federal classification?
Schedule II
Source
National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), Community Epidemiology Work Group (CEWG), Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
 
Jiro said:
yes exactly. you must always research whatever you're taking to learn about its effect and side effect and its duration of effect. the responsible user is smart enough to do this in a controlled environment (meaning... in his own home)
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I did. I just misunderstood the sources.
 
Grummer said:
What are the street names/slang terms for
PCP
?
Angel Dust, Embalming Fluid, Killer Weed, Rocket Fuel, Supergrass.
What is
PCP
?
PCP, or phencyclidine, is a dissociative anesthetic that was developed in the 1950s as a surgical anesthetic. Its sedative and anesthetic effects are trance-like, and patients experience a feeling of being "out of body" and detached from their environment. Use of PCP in humans was discontinued in 1965, because it was found that patients often became agitated, delusional, and irrational while recovering from its anesthetic effects.
What does it look like?
PCP is a white crystalline powder that is readily soluble in water or alcohol. It has a distinctive bitter chemical taste.
How is it used?
PCP turns up on the illicit drug market in a variety of tablets, capsules, and colored powders. It is normally used in one of three ways -- snorted, smoked, or eaten. When it is smoked, PCP is often applied to a leafy material such as mint, parsley, oregano, tobacco or marijuana. Many people who use PCP may do it unknowingly because PCP is often used as an additive and can be found in marijuana, LSD, or methamphetamine.
What are its short-term effects?

PCP: At low to moderate doses, PCP can cause distinct changes in body awareness, similar to those associated with alcohol intoxication. Other effects can include shallow breathing, flushing, profuse sweating, generalized numbness of the extremities and poor muscular coordination. Use of PCP among adolescents may interfere with hormones related to normal growth and development as well as with the learning process.

At high doses, PCP can cause hallucinations as well as seizures, coma, and death (though death more often results from accidental injury or suicide during PCP intoxication). Other effects that can occur at high doses are nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, flicking up and down of the eyes, drooling, loss of balance, and dizziness. High doses can also cause effects similar to symptoms of schizophrenia, such as delusions, paranoia, disordered thinking, a sensation of distance from one's environment, and catatonia. Speech is often sparse and garbled.

PCP has sedative effects, and interactions with other central nervous system depressants, such as alcohol and benzodiazepines, can lead to coma or accidental overdose.

Many PCP users are brought to emergency rooms because of PCP's unpleasant psychological effects or because of overdoses. In a hospital or detention setting, they often become violent or suicidal, and are very dangerous to themselves and to others. They should be kept in a calm setting and should not be left alone.

Formaldehyde (the chemical used in embalming, not in PCP): Short-term exposure to formaldehyde can be fatal; however, the odor threshold is low enough that irritation of the eyes and mucous membranes will occur before these levels are achieved.
What are its long-term effects?

PCP: PCP is addicting; that is, its use often leads to psychological dependence, craving, and compulsive PCP-seeking behavior.

People who use PCP for long periods report memory loss, difficulties with speech and thinking, depression, and weight loss. These symptoms can persist up to a year after cessation of PCP use. Mood disorders also have been reported.

Formaldehyde (the chemical used in embalming, not in PCP): Long-term exposure to low levels of formaldehyde may cause respiratory difficulty, eczema, and sensitization. Formaldehyde is classified as a human carcinogen and has been linked to nasal and lung cancer, and with possible links to brain cancer and leukemia.
What is its federal classification?
Schedule II
Source
National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), Community Epidemiology Work Group (CEWG), Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
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Thanks for that information. Yes it's possible that some of my canabis could have been laced.
 
That is very dangerous. I don't like that is bad. I quite smoke and weed. I don't interest to about to weed. I go to church pray for my sinfull. I think so hope better heal. i don't like wreck up with messing. I don't want to trouble. I understand. I responsibility tell to police. I heard traffic is drugs. I don't want to trouble I don't want to go to choice my friends. I think so better avoid friends. I understand my grandma and grandpa not happy right now. I understand. I don't want to trouble getting about to hurt to people I think so getting choice better right now.
 
That is very dangerous. I hate drugs. I don't want to getting conflict to medicaton will crazy of mess your mind. Can you damaged to mind. I think so getting your mind. i think so your messy. I don't want to conflict to my mind. I tell to police. I heard someone sell to money $10 kind of joints. that is not good. I understand i don't like drugs. I am pissed to people having drugs. i disagree to drugs. I don't like someone is bad. I don't want to trouble.
 
First of all, I am not sure if I support Medicinal Marijuana because it actually contains more tar than cigarettes nowadays. It also has been shown that marijuana also has more carcinogenic agents, which causes cancer. Wouldn't want to add cancer to pre-existing conditions, would we?

Also, if it was to be permitted, I think Medicinal Marijuana should be changed to "cannabis," to avoid any misperceptions or something like that.
 
skm4441 said:
First of all, I am not sure if I support Medicinal Marijuana because it actually contains more tar than cigarettes nowadays. It also has been shown that marijuana also has more carcinogenic agents, which causes cancer. Wouldn't want to add cancer to pre-existing conditions, would we?

Also, if it was to be permitted, I think Medicinal Marijuana should be changed to "cannabis," to avoid any misperceptions or something like that.
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You can also get the pill form without the tar and other things....
 
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