Let's Be Honest Here....

Reba said:
Michael, the "husband", has refused to allow a priest to give Terri the communion of last rites.
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I am sorry to ask what does that mean? I am lost here heh.
 
slip right into coma???....The doctor said that she would die within a week or two, he did not say nothing about her slipping in a coma? ...Right now , she is become weaker , she having a hard time breathing, her kindey is starting to fail and she is dying slowly....that's all I heard on the news today so far unless you heard more ?..
 
Tousi said:
Cheri, you have to explain to me how/why it is painless.......
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Excuse me, but it is because the doctors have no way of knowing what the starving people are feeling inside! They have not experienced starving themselves, so what do they know? I think the reason they said "painless" is to soothe their guilty conscious and to soothe other people's fears, that is all.

Now if you will read those articles about Kate Adamson who had experienced starvation for 8 days while she was in a 70-days coma, you will see that starvation is NOt painless at all.

Here's the link: A Voice To Speak for Others and Kate Adamson Fights for Terri Schiavo
 
Cheri said:
I am sorry to ask what does that mean? I am lost here heh.
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Cheri, you know when a person goes on a death row, and you see a priest umm ...goodness you know what I mean , you watch movies too

I'm sorry sis, I have so much on my mind with this Terri issue, and it's really getting to me big time...I'm not thinking clearly, but I'm sure you know what I mean or maybe Reba can explain it alot more better than I can... ;)
 
^Angel^ said:
Cheri, you know when a person goes on a death row, and you see a prist umm ...goodness you know what I mean , you watch movies too
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Oh I am sorry I felt stupid here.... Forgive me. :fingersx:
 
Cheri said:
I am sorry to ask what does that mean? I am lost here heh.
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For Catholic believers it is a very important ritual performed by a priest for a dying person. They believe it is one of the sacrements required for entrance into heaven. It is very upsetting to Catholic families if their loved one dies without the last rites administered. I am not a Catholic, so this is just a basic explanation. Maybe someone else can explain it better.

By denying Terri her last rites, Michael is interfering with her freedom of religion.

Terri's brother and sister were just on TV telling how Michael didn't allow Terri to have last rites administered by the priest. They were not happy about that, and it is worse for their parents.
 
Toonces said:
Excuse me, but it is because the doctors have no way of knowing what the starving people are feeling inside! They have not experienced starving themselves, so what do they know? I think the reason they said "painless" is to soothe their guilty conscious and to soothe other people's fears, that is all.

Now if you will read those articles about Kate Adamson who had experienced starvation for 8 days while she was in a 70-days coma, you will see that starvation is NOt painless at all.

Here's the link: A Voice To Speak for Others and Kate Adamson Fights for Terri Schiavo
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Exactly, you said it a whole lot better than I could have....
 
^Angel^ said:
slip right into coma???....The doctor said that she would die within a week or two, he did not say nothing about her slipping in a coma? ...Right now , she is become weaker , she having a hard time breathing, her kindey is starting to fail and she is dying slowly....that's all I heard on the news today so far unless you heard more ?..
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Yes, But when people strave they do slip in coma it could happen to her or she could die either one. But normally people who strave do slip right into coma. It happens often. ;)
 
Toonces, hi; I appreciate your commentary regarding the doctors have no way of knowing.........but you know what? Neither do we.

Reba, would that be the Rite of Extra Munction? Not sure if its one word or 2. Extramunction? Latin.....been eons!
 
Reba said:
For Catholic believers it is a very important ritual performed by a priest for a dying person. They believe it is one of the sacrements required for entrance into heaven. It is very upsetting to Catholic families if their loved one dies without the last rites administered. I am not a Catholic, so this is just a basic explanation. Maybe someone else can explain it better.

By denying Terri her last rites, Michael is interfering with her freedom of religion.

Terri's brother and sister were just on TV telling how Michael didn't allow Terri to have last rites administered by the priest. They were not happy about that, and it is worse for their parents.
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Thanks for the explaintion Reba,:hug: I don't know much about Catholic ways, but I have seen how they do that in movies like ^Angel^ was trying to tell me herself but, I was in the middle of being stupid. Heh!
 
Tousi said:
Toonces, hi; I appreciate your commentary regarding the doctors have no way of knowing.........but you know what? Neither do we.
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I disagree, because My sister ^Angel^ went through the same thing herself and I know how she felt. I was there. ;)
 
Gee--another horrendous act taken by Michael when he prevented Terri from holding last rites....

Starvation, whether intentional or unintentional (examples of intentional is when 'forced' to starve--unintentional can take place during acts of war, depletes the resources of food and unable to find food to eat) will 'end' up in the same manner, being painful...there's really no differences, starving can result in death....So, intentional starving can be viewed as an act of malice which then can be viewed as a murderous act.
 
^Angel^ said:
Michael already told the doctor that soon as his wife dies, he wants her cremated right away...Looks like he is trying to hide something, he may have done something bad to Terri otherwise why in a hurry? that's makes no sense...


As you know that Michael is the only one allow to see Terri and no one else, so he will know first when she dies before the others will and then he will rush her to get her cremated unless someone stop it before it too late ....

I'm still praying for Terri and I still believe something good will come out of this....I have faith, and haven't given up any hope either..
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It sounds terrible.

All what I consider is only Terri, not Michael or parents.

I know everything would be different if Terri has will. Very very very sad conditon. I really don´t know what should I say.
 
Toonces said:
I'm just noticed this thread and so I will toss my two cents here.... Indeed, I do think that starving people to death - no matter how sick or are "gone" in their mind - is sheer, unhumanely cruel. For the doctors to say it is painless - [SIZE=3]huh, they must be smoking weed[/SIZE]. : p
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I laugh sooo hard. :rofl: :rofl:

I doesnt mean to laugh at your post but it´s funny what you find those word like this. :rofl:
 
RR, hiya, man. As for Michael denying Terri the Last Rites of Extreme Unction, I believe it is called, maybe it is because this process with the priest requires that Terri be able to participate along with the priest. I think I'll stop right here.....
 
Liebling:-))) said:
All what I consider is only Terri, not Michael or parents.
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Ok, and how do you know if this is what Terri really wanted? do you think you would rather to starve yourself for days and die so slowly?...The reason why I want Terri to live is because she has not said one word herself that this is what she wanted, but her unfaithful husband said this is what she wanted after he had a girlfriend...at first he didn't remember then he remembered hmm....

I'm not trying to put you in the spot hon, I'm just wanted to hear what you say about this ;)
 
Angel, I don't know but the way I read Leibling's statement, she's all for Terri staying alive , no matter what.

I have mixed feelings even after what I said about the law, etc. But I also think it is more cruel to let her live than to let the poor thing go.....
 
I'm not quite sure if I understood you there Tousi, how is it cruel to have her live than die?...
 
Angel, what I mean is if she lives, she will be the same as she is now for the rest of her life....talking quality of life issues here. That's what I mean that it would be cruel to let her continue this way.....
 
Tousi said:
Angel, what I mean is if she lives, she will be the same as she is now for the rest of her life....talking quality of life issues here. That's what I mean that it would be cruel to let her continue this way.....
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Not unless she have a will saying that she want to die not to continue her life that way. But do we know what she really want? Hummmmmmmmm What if her husband making up stories that she wanted to die. We dont know the truth yet. Or we may never know the truth. Surely it paintful for the family that they love her and watch her to die slowly.
 
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