is America's a really good country?

Steel X

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Okay, let me put it this way...

everybody loves america because there's freedom of speech, freedom of press, a bunch of amendments to make things fair for its country and the american citizens...etc...but there are just so many things that are so careless and pathetic and weak.

certainly I love my country...but do I love the government? I dont' think so.

come on...think about this. there are just so many weird shit going on and the government always say weird things about those situations and it's like they have something under their sleeves that they don't even want you to find out, or if you do, they would possibly kill you or whatever like that. America isn't all good and friendly, though there are actually alot of greed and evil going on there and it's actually inside the government...you can't really see it, but you can kind of sense it, you know? you know how the justice system is always poor and weak and they always let alot of people who were obviously guilty of a crime they commited and they let them go...

for example, a young boy who was like 8 years old or so got stabbed in the stomach while his mother was beaten and stabbed to death in the other room, and the boy called 911 saying he was hurt and in alot of pain and said that his father tried to kill him, etc...and when they caught the father, the father was found innocent of the crime...now, what the hell was that?
don't they believe an 8 year old boy who was stabbed to death and he was really afraid of dying and they think he could possibly be lying when he's in alot of pain like that?! don't give me that crap! it's like they don't even care what the hell was going on and they just decided to drop the case like they are too damn lazy to put him in jail and decided to drop him off in the streets and could possibly kill more kids or something like that. now, why do the justice system release alot of criminals out into the streets when they did obviously commited a crime, with such proof by DNA test and others, but they still let them go! I'll tell you why...it's because of increasing payments for the cops. think about this...there aren't really much crimes in towns than there were in cities and stuff like that so they usually let alot of criminals who were from town go and then go do it again because cops don't get paid well in towns than cops do in cities...see the difference? that's why they let them go so to increase more crimes in towns and let the cops do more jobs and then get paid more when they catch a criminal and then put him in court, and let the judge decide...blah blah blah then they let him go again! it's pretty pathetic. the justice systems don't really care much about towns as they think not much people would get killed in towns as their would be alto murdered in citites...but who cares about the murder rates? the people in towns are still people! and they just treat them like preys when they release a hunter into the wild and then KILL them for no fucking reason just because of the cops' pay rates in towns than in cities...

another thing, more black people gets in death rows than white people do...why? I don't know and I guess it has something to do with racism. certainly alot of blacks commited crimes, but that doesn't mean that more blacks commit crimes than whites do and there's no reason to just put them in a death row when a black guy murdered someone and a white guy who murdered someone just gets the life sentence...that's just not right.

and about careers...the fact about payments between men and women in such jobs like teaching, doctor, lawyer, etc...every job for men and women.
men gets paid more than women do. why is that? there's no answer to that. I'm only guessing it's just because of the ecomony problem and they only choose one gender to respect than the other gender and I think that's actually fucked up. you see why there's such high stress rates in single parent families? most single parents are mothers, and they don't get paid as much as men do and they are always frustrated about paying for their bills, clothes, food, shelter, etc...for themselves and the kids. most single parents try to have more than one job to get more money, but it's never too easy for them anyway. whatever happened to "all men are created equal"? women are people, too you know...

so I feel that the government always kept alot of things to themselves and wouldn't tell us everything that are true...some that would be true, while most would be LIES. they lie so they can keep most of the money for wars and more power and shit like that...the government only listens to people who works for the governments...like the cops and stuff like that...not to the people who works for the government because they don't give a crap about you and say it's not any of their business when you are in deep shit or whatever like that...

so I don't really know about this future right now...we are still in war against Iraqi and now we've already heard rumors about the next war with Iran...etc what is REALLY going on? I dunno but most wars is always about POWER. and Bush actually abuses his power and money trying to show what kind of "bad ass" he is while alot of us actually think he is an "asshole" instead. so seriously, what's the point? where's the proof in mass decstruction? where's the proof in saying that Iraq is related to 9/11th attacks? where's the proof in saying that Bin Laden will be caught? where's the proof in EVERYTHING!?!?

I don't know but I can just tell that we are all going in a pretty risky direction right now and I just don't know when it will all ever be normal again...I just dont know.

money and power aren't the future...

women and children are the future.
 
I'm proud to be an American citizen and love living in America but I don't like how the government runs and I don't believe the blame should be pointed to the American people but to the government itself, not alot of us vote for whatever the government want us to, we have our right to either vote or not to, as long we think it is the right thing in our country, but lately, I don't agree with what the government has been doing and beside spending more money on war which I rather to see peace, and most of all, hoping the government stay out of other country problems...

I also think our government think too much about everything meaning, what we need when we don't need it! Our government may not be perfect and isn't but I also think if our government would be able to hand over more control to the people, giving us more of the power and free will to choose what we can use or need...

Also, I don't believe our justice system isn't tough enough on criminals and keeping other people from committing a crime...tough laws will make criminals think twice if the system forced hard labor as part of the punishment for crimes committed...

There's so much that needs to be fixed but not enough money to flow in programs that can help the people who needs help, help to get them back on their feet, good jobs, etc. The high price for freedom cuts into these programs which a lot of people are dealing with and hopefully peace will be everywhere and no wars to be fought and then we can have the kind of help or government that will be useful for all citizens...
 
I also think that the mindless patriotism inflicted on us by our government is just almost like the patroitism inflicted on the German peoples before WWII.
I like America.....America is cool.....but the patroisim is just so mindless... " We have achieved this no one can take it away from us" .....what's the big fucking deal about living in America? It's like the govt uses patroism as a tool to brainwash us into thinking we're better then anyone else!
 
Angel and deafdyke cover this topic pretty good. Angel is right that the problem is not about americans... It is all about this current admin and government who causes many problems in America (and other countries).

With this current admin and government, America is heading for destruction, not salvation. My friends, history indeed repeats itself. Just like Rome and Germany.

Steel is right about women and salary... We are in Millennium era and women's salary is still low when compared to men's salary. Steel, we are in the retarded world of men.

Under this current admin and government, I unfortunately am not proud to be an american at this moment. I am more of to be proud to be an Swedish and a liberal, Jesus' follower...
 
Yeah as I said, America will fall from being most powerful country. My best advice to anyone, just enjoy what you are doing and ignore the politics actions.

Nothing of us can stop with our dirty government until other country nuke on our country. Our country will fall from being most powerful country. That nukes will revolutions our government to some kind of new government. I believe it going to be one world government as Bible said.

Reasons with that our government is doing dirty because of our government is separated with religious. It is wrong. Our government should work together with religious. Not with religious of Holy Roman Empire, Roman Catholics, Jews, Mulism, or Buddist. Our government should work with Christianity's Bible. It will bring very good result in our country and the government, too. For example at our old history and our government was strongly involved with bible and religious. That is my opinion and I strongly support with my comments.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Reasons with that our government is doing dirty because of our government is separated with religious. It is wrong. Our government should work together with religious. Not with religious of Holy Roman Empire, Roman Catholics, Jews, Mulism, or Buddist. Our government should work with Christianity's Bible. It will bring very good result in our country and the government, too. For example at our old history and our government was strongly involved with bible and religious. That is my opinion and I strongly support with my comments.

Protestants and conservative Christians should not rule America.
 
America is best country in the world. It is the greed, power, religions, different cultures and hatred destroy us. many of us are not ready to be united because of the way we were raised and we pass them to our children.
 
i believe that EVERY country has its pros and cons.. so therefore, america have its pro and cons :D

that's all i can say
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Yeah as I said, America will fall from being most powerful country. My best advice to anyone, just enjoy what you are doing and ignore the politics actions.

Nothing of us can stop with our dirty government until other country nuke on our country. Our country will fall from being most powerful country. That nukes will revolutions our government to some kind of new government. I believe it going to be one world government as Bible said.

Reasons with that our government is doing dirty because of our government is separated with religious. It is wrong. Our government should work together with religious. Not with religious of Holy Roman Empire, Roman Catholics, Jews, Mulism, or Buddist. Our government should work with Christianity's Bible. It will bring very good result in our country and the government, too. For example at our old history and our government was strongly involved with bible and religious. That is my opinion and I strongly support with my comments.

Religious and Government should never mixed together. There are people out there have different religious briefs and it would cause a whole more alots of problems if there only one religious to follow.
 
Cheri said:
Religious and Government should never mixed together. There are people out there have different religious briefs and it would cause a whole more alots of problems if there only one religious to follow.
but the point... what if americans follow allah's way? that means we can kill eachother for granted. :shock:

that's why i believe we should still follow the christian's way.. the bible's law such as 10 commandments cuz "thou shall not kill" is a true law! we don't need to kill eachother.
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
but the point... what if americans follow allah's way? that means we can kill eachother for granted. :shock:

that's why i believe we should still follow the christian's way.. the bible's law such as 10 commandments cuz "thou shall not kill" is a true law! we don't need to kill eachother.
Um. Bush and his admin massacred over 100,000 innocent iraqis with glee in Iraq, a country that do not have WMDs. Iraq don't have anything with 9/11 attack. There is no evidence whatosever.

That's not christian's way for you. Far, far from christianity philosophy and its practices. It is madness and anti-christianity sickness. Pure and simple.

if anything else, Bush and his admin broke Ten Commandments' 'thou shall not kill' law hundred times.
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
but the point... what if americans follow allah's way? that means we can kill eachother for granted. :shock:

that's why i believe we should still follow the christian's way.. the bible's law such as 10 commandments cuz "thou shall not kill" is a true law! we don't need to kill eachother.

Really, what a lies. Christians still break 10 commandments such as murder people who are not fit to their eyes.
 
jazzy said:
Really, what a lies. Christians still break 10 commandments such as murder people who are not fit to their eyes.
:werd:

To remind one thing about christians, not all of them break 10 Commandments (thou shall not kill issue). Religious Right, Bush and his admin does.
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
but the point... what if americans follow allah's way? that means we can kill eachother for granted. :shock:

that's why i believe we should still follow the christian's way.. the bible's law such as 10 commandments cuz "thou shall not kill" is a true law! we don't need to kill eachother.


:confused: I don't know what you are saying, But there already been a law there about "killing", If they go out and shoot someone they will face the crime they committed.
 
Magatsu said:
Um. Bush and his admin massacred over 100,000 innocent iraqis with glee in Iraq, a country that do not have WMDs. Iraq don't have anything with 9/11 attack. There is no evidence whatosever.

That's not christian's way for you. Far, far from christianity philosophy and its practices. It is madness and anti-christianity sickness. Pure and simple.

if anything else, Bush and his admin broke Ten Commandments' 'thou shall not kill' law hundred times.


Yep You are correct, And they got away with murder too. :-o
 
Cheri said:
:confused: I don't know what you are saying, But there already been a law there about "killing", If they go out and shoot someone they will face the crime they committed.
the point i'm talking is.. Druing 1700's the majority of people in america are christians. they created laws.. and most of those laws are created by christian beliefs.
so, IF the majority of people in america are mulisms in the 1700's.. they'll create a different laws.. probally the Killings won't be in lawbook.

EDIT: i personally believe that government and religion should be seperated.
BUT, the laws should be christian laws.. cuz other religion out there have beliefs that u can kill if they commit a crime only a simple crime. or they belief that u can kill ur son if they commit a sin.

That's why government is somewhat involved with religion.
If we're totally seperated.. means we can let them kill their son cuz its their religion.. makes sense?
 
Magatsu said:
:werd:

To remind one thing about christians, not all of them break 10 Commandments (thou shall not kill issue). Religious Right, Bush and his admin does.

Who kill Iraq people?
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
the point i'm talking is.. Druing 1700's the majority of people in america are christians. they created laws.. and most of those laws are created by christian beliefs.
so, IF the majority of people in america are mulisms in the 1700's.. they'll create a different laws.. probally the Killings won't be in lawbook.

EDIT: i personally believe that government and religion should be seperated.
BUT, the laws should be christian laws.. cuz other religion out there have beliefs that u can kill if they commit a crime only a simple crime. or they belief that u can kill ur son if they commit a sin.

That's why government is somewhat involved with religion.
If we're totally seperated.. means we can let them kill their son cuz its their religion.. makes sense?

I thought we were following Judism law since those commandment come from them.
 
America is a wonderful country, full of wonderful people. It is not a perfect country because people are not perfect. I love America. I appreciate the sacrifices made by past and present generations. I think we should all do our best to improve our country in a positive way. I don't think blaming groups of people by ethnicity or religion is a positive way to improve the country.

I am also curious. If America is so awful, why do so many people want to live here? Is anyone prevented from leaving?
 
I do not support with the ideal of the pastor telling the government do whatever. I mean the government should follow what the Bible say. Other than Bible and government should depend people's decision with 3/4 all around country for each laws and bills to prevent powers, greed, and pride.

We kill people that do sins, that is joke. We forgive them and explain why it is sin.
 
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