Hypocrisy in Six Flags' Deaf Awareness Day?

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souggy said:
Might want to inform every single Deaf and HoH agencies out there. They're still using "oral deaf" to describe anyone that speak and has a hearing loss.
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I've always referred to those with a significant hearing loss, good speech and no sign language skills as oral deaf.
 
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So far, they have assisted listening devices (blah, doesn't work for me) The captioning issue is a problem for us everywhere. In movies, internet, etc. seem like no one want to caption anything. Why is that?
 
deafskeptic said:
I've always referred to those with a significant hearing loss, good speech and no sign language skills as oral deaf.
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Not all profoundly deaf people know sign language nor are they oral. What about them?
 
rockdrummer said:
Not all profoundly deaf people know sign language nor are they oral. What about them?
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I still would refer them to oral deaf even though they don't know sign and have terrible speech skills. My ex bf (not my current one) used to be in this catergory despite having no speech skills at all.

I wasn't referring to their speech skills - just the fact they don't know sign. Prelinguals ( and this is what I have i mind when i refer to oral deaf.) usually are put in oral programs and many were never exposed to ASL.

As for late deafened, I don't refer them as oral deaf but rather as late deafened.
 
kokonut said:
Really?
Google
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No one disputing the existence of the term.

However, I am disputing this:

Oral deaf implies the inability to communicate aurally. Applying "oral deaf" to all deaf/hh people is incorrect.
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There's far more deaf centres and clinics using "oral deaf" than "oral/aural deaf." It doesn't make the usage of the term incorrect.
 
souggy said:
No one disputing the existence of the term.

However, I am disputing this:



There's far more deaf centres and clinics using "oral deaf" than "oral/aural deaf." It doesn't make the usage of the term incorrect.
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I got about 25k hits on oral/aural deaf. I got about 175,000 hits on oral deaf. I would say oral deaf is far more commonly used if google is any example.
 
souggy said:
No one disputing the existence of the term.

However, I am disputing this:

There's far more deaf centres and clinics using "oral deaf" than "oral/aural deaf." It doesn't make the usage of the term incorrect.
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It is incorrect to use the term to *ALL* deaf and hh people because of the simple fact that "oral deaf" doesn't apply to late deafened individuals.
 
Jiro said:
4 words for you - shut the fuck up. and enjoy the rides. would you like that in CC or cued speech?

Don’t you have anything better to do than to sit around and make a mountain out of molehill? Talk about hypocrisy here.
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Thank you, Jiro.

I enjoy Deaf Day at Six Flags every year regardless of what you are whining about. I. Do. Not. Care. I'm just there to have fun, not be uptight about Deaf/HH rights. In fact, I will be going there on June 12th. It will be a wonderful day for me and my fiance. I can't wait!

:blah: Kokonut, STFU!
 
deafskeptic said:
I got about 25k hits on oral/aural deaf. I got about 175,000 hits on oral deaf. I would say oral deaf is far more commonly used if google is any example.
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113,000 results for "aural/oral"

70,400 results for "oral/aural"

Combined total: 183,000 results.

Okay, without quotes.

aural/oral - 177,000 results
oral/aural - 130, 000 results

Combine it with "deaf"

19,400 results for "oral/aural" + "deaf"

11,000 results for "aural/oral" + deaf"
via Google search.

11,400 results for "oral/aural deaf"
1,560 results for "aural/oral deaf"

:)
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Thank you, Jiro.

I enjoy Deaf Day at Six Flags every year regardless of what you are whining about. I. Do. Not. Care. I'm just there to have fun, not be uptight about Deaf/HH rights. In fact, I will be going there on June 12th. It will be a wonderful day for me and my fiance. I can't wait!

:blah: Kokonut, STFU!
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Excellent post. That's the idea here.

As for Deaf/HH rights, I think it will be a lot more productive to send a letter to Six Flags than to whine about it here.
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Thank you, Jiro.

I enjoy Deaf Day at Six Flags every year regardless of what you are whining about. I. Do. Not. Care. I'm just there to have fun, not be uptight about Deaf/HH rights. In fact, I will be going there on June 12th. It will be a wonderful day for me and my fiance. I can't wait!

:blah: Kokonut, STFU!
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That's fine. I hope you do you have a good time. It's high time that Six Flags be made aware of this oversight. After all these years they have not really raised their own awareness about deaf and hard of hearing people thinking that all deaf/hh people sign. Not so.

And, no, I won't "STFU."

Have a nice one.
 
kokonut said:
That's fine. I hope you do you have a good time. It's high time that Six Flags be made aware of this oversight. After all these years they have not really raised their own awareness about deaf and hard of hearing people thinking that all deaf/hh people sign. Not so.

And, no, I won't "STFU."

Have a nice one.
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"What you don't use, you lose."
 
kokonut said:
That's fine. I hope you do you have a good time. It's high time that Six Flags be made aware of this oversight. After all these years they have not really raised their own awareness about deaf and hard of hearing people thinking that all deaf/hh people sign. Not so.

And, no, I won't "STFU."

Have a nice one.
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Well, the word about "Deaf Awareness Day" is just make sense to me and I do understand about what means, it is sponsored by GLAD too. I went this Six Flags in 2004 and noticed some deaf people/HoH don't sign so well or very little sign so they are still welcome. Not all deaf people use ASL as primary sign language because some people use ESL aka English Sign Language like I did until 2000 but switched to ASL when learned in 7th grade to replace the ESL. I had been in speech therapy for 10 years but failed, even with CI.

You make a mountain out of a molehill, that too much on just little issue thing.

This thread need be locked. :locked:
 
Foxrac said:
Well, the word about "Deaf Awareness Day" is just make sense to me and I do understand about what means, it is sponsored by GLAD too. I went this Six Flags in 2004 and noticed some deaf people/HoH don't sign so well or very little sign so they are still welcome. Not all deaf people use ASL as primary sign language because some people use ESL aka English Sign Language like I did until 2000 but switched to ASL when learned in 7th grade to replace the ESL. I had been in speech therapy for 10 years but failed, even with CI.

You make a mountain out of a molehill, that too much on just little issue thing.
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It's "Deaf and Hard of Hearing Awareness Day," and not "Deaf and ASL Awareness Day."

The majority of deaf and hard of hearing people in the United States do NOT know or use sign language to communicate. We're talking 99.6% of the deaf and hh population (30+ million people) who do not know sign language.
 
kokonut said:
It's "Deaf and Hard of Hearing Awareness Day," and not "Deaf and ASL Awareness Day."

The majority of deaf and hard of hearing people in the United States do NOT know or use sign language to communicate. We're talking 99.6% of the deaf and hh population (30+ million people) who do not know sign language.
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So then do something about it, don't just sit and complain. People who have gotten things about it have always taken action to make it happen.

Send them a letter, start a petition. Do whatever to make things happen!
 
CJB said:
So then do something about it, don't just sit and complain. People who have gotten things about it have always taken action to make it happen.

Send them a letter, start a petition. Do whatever to make things happen!
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You haven't read my blog have you?
 
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