Hypocrisy in Six Flags' Deaf Awareness Day?

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As a oral deaf, I took as offensive on how ASL deaf being attack.
 
Bottesini said:
Yes they do.
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I don't, I consider myself to be HoH.

Now another silly hypothetical question. How many capital D (deaf power) individuals have ever advocated for the rights of other individuals with disabilities? Or is it all about YOU?

Do you feel it is your "responsibility" to advocate for the rights of the blind? The rights of the crippled?

The rights of the HoH?

Because I most certainly have advocated for the rights of a deaf person to have an ASL interpreter ..... many .... many times.

The impression I am getting from certain capital D deafies is that they do not care about other individuals and will not advocate for other individuals unless something is in it for them.
 
Jiro said:
why are you asking us? ask the Six Flags. they are the host. if they choose to be ignorant... we'll scream hypocrisy and discrimination with you.
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If they got complaints and ignored them, sure I would join in. :)
 
Consider late deafened. They are not "oral deaf."
Consider those born with some hearing loss, they use the oral/aural route with their hearing aids. Even with cochlear implant. All of them fit under the hoh category. So, it's misleading to label deaf and hoh people as "oral deaf." I'd keep it neutral and call them either Deaf, deaf, or hard of hearing. No sense in throwing out that word "oral deaf." Makes no sense to even use that anyway.
 
Steinhauer said:
I don't, I consider myself to be HoH.

Now another silly hypothetical question. How many capital D (deaf power) individuals have ever advocated for the rights of other individuals with disabilities? Or is it all about YOU?

Do you feel it is your "responsibility" to advocate for the rights of the blind? The rights of the crippled?

The rights of the HoH?

Because I most certainly have advocated for the rights of a deaf person to have an ASL interpreter ..... many .... many times.[/QUOTE]

I am happy that you do and there are many Deaf who would do the same if it was brought to their attention. I would be more than happy to but since I havent been around those who dont know sign language, I totally forgot what it is like not knowing sign language but not having equal access like hearing people. Sometimes people need a friendly reminder. If some Deaf people say "Too bad or screw you" ..fine, let them be but I know for a fact that not all Deaf people are not like that. I would hope not! My brother has been culturally Deaf all his life but he has never been like some of those Deaf who are against those who dont know sign language and I have met many liek him. Yes, I have met those who look down on those who dont know sign language.

Just like there are hearing people who look down on Deaf people and some hearing who dont.
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kokonut said:
Consider late deafened. They are not "oral deaf."
Consider those born with some hearing loss, they use the oral/aural route with their hearing aids. Even with cochlear implant. All of them fit under the hoh category. So, it's misleading to label deaf and hoh people as "oral deaf." I'd keep it neutral and call them either Deaf, deaf, or hard of hearing. No sense in throwing out that word "oral deaf." Makes no sense to even use that anyway.
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Ok then I will change the terminology.
 
I only refer Oral deaf for those who can't use ASL. But I do realize there are those who use SEE , cued speech, etc.
 
Steinhauer said:
I don't, I consider myself to be HoH.

Now another silly hypothetical question. How many capital D (deaf power) individuals have ever advocated for the rights of other individuals with disabilities? Or is it all about YOU?

Do you feel it is your "responsibility" to advocate for the rights of the blind? The rights of the crippled?

The rights of the HoH?

Because I most certainly have advocated for the rights of a deaf person to have an ASL interpreter ..... many .... many times.

The impression I am getting from certain capital D deafies is that they do not care about other individuals and will not advocate for other individuals unless something is in it for them.
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The only instance that anybody advocated for each other is getting captioning on films, television and the internet. But I'm not seeing it here for Six Flags seeing the attitude of "not my problem," instead of nodding in agreement about communication accessibility for all deaf, Deaf, and hoh people at Six Flags for one day. One measley day.
 
I think it is just you they were responding to. You have a habit of ticking people off by the way you word things. HOH/deaf need a better spokeperson.
 
A said:
I think it is just you they were responding to. You have a habit of ticking people off by the way you word things. HOH/deaf need a better spokeperson.
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I cant speak for HOH/deaf but if that's how you all feel, then you have my support!
 
A said:
I think it is just you they were responding to. You have a habit of ticking people off by the way you word things. HOH/deaf need a better spokeperson.
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:laugh2:

I mean seriously... accusing them of hypocrisy and discrimination before even doing anything? whoa!
 
kokonut said:
The only instance that anybody advocated for each other is getting captioning on films, television and the internet. But I'm not seeing it here for Six Flags seeing the attitude of "not my problem," instead of nodding in agreement about communication accessibility for all deaf, Deaf, and hoh people at Six Flags for one day. One measley day.
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That is the problem I saw you address in your OP, then I saw you flamed for bringing the situation to everyone's attention.

Isn't that "screaming" for your rights as someone said you must do? :hmm:

I am hereditary hearing impaired. My father is deaf. He grew up hearing and lost his hearing in College and it gradually deteriorated over time. My Uncle is a candidate for a CI and he is going to get one. My neice is HoH like me. My sister is HoH like me and we will eventually become completely deaf.

I learned ASL and my neice wants me to teach her because she sees the need for it. My sister ... no interest in ASL, nor my father or Uncle. My father caught me talking on a tty (way back in the day) with a deaf friend and he saw the poor grammar and said "forget it!".

He relies on CC and communication is difficult with him. We text.

I KNOW who the capital D deafies are. The ones who feel that you can only have "rights" if you use ASL.
 
A said:
I only refer Oral deaf for those who can't use ASL. But I do realize there are those who use SEE , cued speech, etc.
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Oral deaf implies the inability to communicate aurally. Applying "oral deaf" to all deaf/hh people is incorrect. Late deafened people do not even fit in that category in the first place.
 
Steinhauer said:
That is the problem I saw you address in your OP, then I saw you flamed for bringing the situation to everyone's attention.

Isn't that "screaming" for your rights as someone said you must do? :hmm:
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Why not scream for his rights to Six Flags? I think they have a phone number on their website.

If he started out with asking for help in advocating instead of using negative words like "hypocrisy" then maybe the thread would have started off on a more positive note. Just my two cents.
 
A said:
I think it is just you they were responding to. You have a habit of ticking people off by the way you word things. HOH/deaf need a better spokeperson.
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I am bringing this issue up in here because I noticed a discrepancy, not trying to be a spokesperson.
 
kokonut said:
Oral deaf implies the inability to communicate aurally. Applying "oral deaf" to all deaf/hh people is incorrect. Late deafened people do not even fit in that category in the first place.
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How is that? Just curious...never seen that point of view on oral deaf.

I have always accepted myself as an oral deaf as a deaf person who didnt know sign language growing up. Never thought of myself as inable to communicate aurally even thought my communication wasnt really 100%.
 
shel90 said:
I cant speak for HOH/deaf but if that's how you all feel, then you have my support!
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yes, that's how I feel. I do feel out of the loop when I go places like that.
 
shel90 said:
Why not scream for his rights to Six Flags? I think they have a phone number on their website.

If he started out with asking for help in advocating instead of using negative words like "hypocrisy" then maybe the thread would have started off on a more positive note. Just my two cents.
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There are a LOT of people who do not know who to scream to. Just help them.
 
Steinhauer said:
There are a LOT of people who do not know who to scream to. Just help them.
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Ok, then ask me..I never thought about it until now.

In fact, I am going to Kings Dominion on June 12th for Deaf Awareness Day and I will keep an eye out for captioning and if I see none, I will ask the management about it. Maybe send a letter.
 
shel90 said:
Why not scream for his rights to Six Flags? I think they have a phone number on their website.

If he started out with asking for help in advocating instead of using negative words like "hypocrisy" then maybe the thread would have started off on a more positive note. Just my two cents.
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Oh for the love of god, now the crux of your complaint finally boils down to one word, "hypocrisy" rather than seeing the problem that Six Flags failed to see? Ever noticed I put a question mark at the end of my subject heading which could signify that it wouldn't be that but for another reason like...ignorance?
 
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