How old is Earth? Evolution?

Even heretics pay lip service to God!

Red Fox is my new Master! All hail the Great Red Fox! Bow down before your new Master, cretins!

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But seriously... If anyone is interested, i can expand on the philosophical implications of the "why" question, or the presumption of cause and effect in such questions like "where did X come from?" in a brand new thread.
 
Daft said:
HUMANS, Reba, they are all HUMANS. They are not gods!


A day to a HUMAN is 24 hours.

A day to GOD is like 1,000 years.

GOD told the Creation story. God is not restricted to a 24-hour day.

HUMANS told the story of the resurrection. To a HUMAN, a day is 24-hours.
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Ahh, that's very interestin' you mentioned about the day, hour and years in between Heaven and Earth...........

B U T

What about Hell ?

Did you know that Hell is more worser than Heaven and Earth's Time ? I will tell you how worse it is. Use your imagination here ....

Let's use you for an example --

When you are in Hell, it will take you 100 YEARS or maybe, MORE than that equal 24 hours for the next day to come. It tortures the mind to suffer the pain and, even it will REMIND you to REMEMBER what you DID to hurt people while you were alive on this earth. It will make you to REMEMBER everythin' what bad actions/deeds you did to others....it will pest your mind and will NOT let you GO. It will make your TIME to GO really S L O W enough to drive you INSANE.

That's what the Hell is like. Hell's time is very, very BRUTAL. It's what Jesus means about "gnashin' their teeth" --------
 
Given this type of mythology, i can't hide my contempt for the view that i will be tortured eternally because i cannot believe a loving God would torture me eternally.
 
The Heretic said:
i cannot believe a loving God would torture me eternally.
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That's your contribute. Will you lay down your life for God ? That's your choice. He didn't chose it for you.
 
RedFox said:
If you say that the one creator did it, you must back it up with evidence.
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RedFox said:
Just giving bible quotes and saying that they are right is as valid as just giving them and saying that they are wrong. That's why outside support is needed.
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Indeed. That's one thing I don't understand about these people, many of them kept ranting that theory of evolution is unproven but many of them kept forgetting one thing; theory of creationism is unproven either.


However, RedFox... very, very nice and thought-provoking post. I will add my thoughts in this topic right after reading few books that Heretic recommended in somewhere else.
 
CyberRed said:
That's your contribute. Will you lay down your life for God ? That's your choice. He didn't chose it for you.
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Wrong!
Of course he bears the responsibility, because he created everything and determined all the laws of nature in his perfect omniscience. Plus he knew everything before he created anything, if we are to buy the premise that God has perfect knowledge, then he is responsible for all creation. If God could have done otherwise, but chose this state of affairs (the current universe, a horrible theology of sacrifice, and a questionable ethic) then he is a clumsy and a sadistic designer. See this link for more details about why God is a sadistic bastard.

Conclusion: Your God is an malevolent entity and deserve to be rejected. :whistle:
 
The Heretic said:
Wrong!
Of course he bears the responsibility, because he created everything and determined all the laws of nature in his perfect omniscience. Plus he knew everything before he created anything, if we are to buy the premise that God has perfect knowledge, then he is responsible for all creation. If God could have done otherwise, but chose this state of affairs (the current universe, a horrible theology of sacrifice, and a questionable ethic) then he is a clumsy and a sadistic designer. See this link for more details about why God is a sadistic bastard.
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Well, you have imperfect knowledge cuz the simple fact shows that you are 100% sinner. God has a perfect knowledge cuz He knows how to save us by His grace through sending His Son, Jesus Christ. When you wake up, you would know where you are, but the worst thing is how much your foolishness is. If too much, you would get too much plagues on yourself in a sorrowful place. This is too risk for your endless life. Or you must repent from the sin toward God and faith toward Jesus Christ.

If you question God, that means you have the lack of knowledge plus your doubt against Him.

If you called God B-----, you have no excuse to say that because you will stand in the white throne judgment and you will CONFESS that "God is LORD!" before gone to a miserable place forever.
 
Like a busted vinyl record, Askjo repeats himself

Askjo
Instead of preaching at me, can you at least try and read my post and talk to me? If that is too hard for you, then don't bother. Nothing what you said addresses anything what i wrote. Not in the ballpark, not even in the same sport of a honest response!

Look, i can return you the favor and preach my "religion" just as well:

That the soul is immortal and that people should exist forever is a most unreasonable fancy. The trash of every age must then be preserved and new universes must be created to contain such infinte numbers. :sure:
 
Time

24 hours a day is earth time.

Suppose, if somebody live in Pluto.. that's about 2,000 hours different.

I just guess number of hours.. but if thing has less amount of resist against your life.. thus will longer.

Yes, I do beleive in God for a good reason.
 
The Heretic said:
Wrong!
Of course he bears the responsibility, because he created everything and determined all the laws of nature in his perfect omniscience. Plus he knew everything before he created anything, if we are to buy the premise that God has perfect knowledge, then he is responsible for all creation. If God could have done otherwise, but chose this state of affairs (the current universe, a horrible theology of sacrifice, and a questionable ethic) then he is a clumsy and a sadistic designer. See this link for more details about why God is a sadistic bastard.

Conclusion: Your God is an malevolent entity and deserve to be rejected. :whistle:
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You can tell God that He is WRONG and deserve to be rejected yourself. Have a good life. :bye:
 
Obviously handwaving something away doesn't make it false.

CyberRed said:
You can tell God that He is WRONG and deserve to be rejected yourself. Have a good life. :bye:
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:roll:
Talk about evading the point. Since none of y'all can think for yourselves, that must be the best you can come up with. :dunno:

Your response reminds me of a little kid with fingers stuck in both of his ears and going "neener, neener, neener!"
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years could like infinity... eterinty... whatever u may call it.. but it just goes on and on and on and on and on.. so we could count which years that we been goin through. :o interesting issue..
 
Reba said:
...or it just shows that God made the planets with mature geology, same as He first created trees, not seeds, birds, not eggs, and a man, not a baby. :mrgreen:
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It shows that the Earth is around million year old, not around 6,000 years old?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6942733.stm
 
Maria said:
You can tell God that He is WRONG and deserve to be rejected yourself. Have a good life. :bye:
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I agreed. People can be so cruel. I almost felt sorry for them, they're in one big surprised one day. :whistle:
 
Vance said:
Indeed. That's one thing I don't understand about these people, many of them kept ranting that theory of evolution is unproven but many of them kept forgetting one thing; theory of creationism is unproven either.
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Yes I second that.
 
i am sorry i only follow the science not the bible.
i follow science that earth is 4.6 billion years old how does earth have population of 6 billions humans how do we get more people to population earth if earth is 6,000 years old :confused:
i am sorry i don't believe that
 
Liebling:-))) said:
It shows that the Earth is around million year old, not around 6,000 years old?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6942733.stm
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It only mentions an "estimate" of the trees age; there is nothing about the "proof" of the Earth's age.

As I posted before, God created things with full maturity and characteristics of age. Remember, He created the Earth with full-grown trees, animals, and people, not acorns, puppies, or babies. He created full-size rivers in Eden, not tiny little water trickles that had to carve out river beds.
 
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