HDTV messes up service for deaf

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Business - HDTV messes up service for deaf - sacbee.com

For two months early this year, Janel Edmiston and her family enjoyed their new Panasonic high-definition TV, which occupies a big chunk of the family room wall in their Elk Grove home.

But for Edmiston, who began losing her hearing at age 23, the pleasure was fleeting.

In March, she said, closed captioning that came via her cable box disappeared.

"It's not that I'm addicted to TV, but I was missing out on time with my family in the evenings," Edmiston said of losing the captioning feature. "I'd go into another room (to read or fold laundry) while they were watching TV. ... Without captions it's like they are speaking Russian."

Edmiston's problem is a familiar story to a growing number of the estimated 31 million hearing-impaired TV viewers nationwide.

As high-definition TV gains momentum in the United States, broadcasters, set-top box manufacturers and cable and satellite companies are struggling to provide closed captioning.

After numerous complaints and long sessions on the phone with tech support for SureWest, her cable provider, the company recently gave Edmiston an updated cable box still being tested by SureWest engineers.

Though things have improved, problems remain, including last Thursday when the captions slid off the left edge of the screen.

SureWest engineer Steve Keach said his company is constantly receiving updated software from its cable box provider in an effort to improve closed captioning.

"We expect the quality to get better, but like everyone else, we have our issues," he said.

While most older analog sets provide captions with the touch of a remote control button or via a simple on-screen menu, it's more complicated to get closed captioning on the newest digital TVs that get their signal through cable and satellite boxes rather than antennas. That's because the signal is processed by the box and the caption settings must be matched to the resolution of the TV display.

For the deaf community, captioning is a serious issue.

"What would (a hearing person) do if (they) turned on the TV and the volume control wasn't working and there were no voices or sound accompanying the program?" asked Sheila Conlon Mentkowski, an official with the California Department of Rehabilitation in Sacramento and chairwoman of the National Association of the Deaf's technology committee.

There appears to be plenty of blame to go around for the captioning troubles, said Larry Goldberg, director of media access at Boston public TV station WGBH and an expert on captioning.

"I'm getting reports all the time about closed-captioning problems," said Goldberg, who helped write many of the captioning regulations for the Federal Communications Commission.

"If there was one organization we could blame it would make it a lot easier. But there are at least a few different causes."

For instance, not all broadcasters properly encode their closed-caption data, even though there's a standard mandated by the FCC, Goldberg said.

In addition, not every channel provides digital closed captions 100 percent of the time. The FCC required that digital captioning be available by 2006, but granted some exemptions.

New networks have four years to implement HD captioning, and networks with revenue under $3 million a year also are exempt.

Some long-time broadcasters however, are saying their newly launched HD channels qualify as new networks, and claim the four-year exemption, wrote Ron Bibler, a deaf financial planner in Great Falls, Mont., and an activist on the issue.

He points to NBC's Universal HD channel, which he said often doesn't provide captioning while identical programming on its sister USA Network has the captions. After complaining to NBC, Bibler said, he received a letter from the network saying Universal HD expected closed captioning by the end of 2007. Universal executives could not be reached for comment.

In addition, most high-definition cable and satellite set-top boxes control the caption settings through often obscure and confusing menus.
 
It's immoral, unethical to buy HDTV has messed-up captioning while on above
$1,000. It's not right for deaf and hard-of-hearing that may loss their economy for HDTV has bad captioning.
 
I didnt have a problem with my HDTV except a few show like makeover home editon, wife swap, supernanny, 911nanny. And yea it frustrated to me.
 
I won't buy a HDTV, because them has problem with pictures, closed-captioning, and expensive. I can't afford a LCD or Plasma. They were already spent
on LCD, Plasma, or DLP would be messed up with closed-captioned that is big serious issue, that is BIG waste $$$$ money! :mad:
I'll stick with CRT until problem solved on captioning and price
comes down.

Comcast, Dish Network, DirecTV would want all HD porgramming must be captioned because
deaf and hard-of-hearing would selfish of unauthorized package have captioned..
Right now, there is no require for HD programming so Comcast would lose revenues. Comcast, Satellite companies and NAD will be lobbying to Congress for asking
more captioning laws. If it not resolved on captioning, I will cancel
my cable that why is serious threatening to Comcast revenues. Over the air is free with less channels with clear pictures.
 
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If the networks on cable service aren't captioned, I would tell the cable company I want a discount for the shows that are not captioned. If they want me to pay the full cost of their cable service, then I'd expect everything to be captioned through their broadcasting!
 
We just got a HDTV and fuck it! The captioning is messed up on some channels!!!! Ugh!!!
 
If the networks on cable service aren't captioned, I would tell the cable company I want a discount for the shows that are not captioned. If they want me to pay the full cost of their cable service, then I'd expect everything to be captioned through their broadcasting!

Then, they cancel their Comcast service that may lose Comcast customer within between 3 million to 5 million deaf and hard-of-hearing. I will take a calcuator within HDTV service
with cable is average 80 per month = $400 million average will be lost.
Also per year will be -- you will saving averaging $960 per year but Comcast will
be losing 4 billion. Wow, it would be $4.8 BILLION dollar will be lost if
not resolved on captioning for cable service. Poor Comcast, tough shit,
to be cry. You will enjoyed over-the-air such as Lost, Kyle XY, CSI, local news that means broadcast that
means you don't have a cable or satellite.
 
Then, they cancel their Comcast service that may lose Comcast customer within between 3 million to 5 million deaf and hard-of-hearing. I will take a calcuator within HDTV service
with cable is average 80 per month = $400 million average will be lost.
Also per year will be -- you will saving averaging $960 per year but Comcast will
be losing 4 billion. Wow, it would be $4.8 BILLION dollar will be lost if
not resolved on captioning for cable service. Poor Comcast, tough shit,
to be cry. You will enjoyed over-the-air such as Lost, Kyle XY, CSI, local news that means broadcast that
means you don't have a cable or satellite.

i am sorry how frustrated you guys are about hdtv and cc.

personally i have two hdtvs with comcast dvrs(cable boxes) for 2 years. i dont have any problems with these. all cc work on any tv programs.

i ll be happy to assist you how to set up cc on comcast's dvr if you need help. just PM me if you have a question. ok?
 
another thing i wanted to share with you is that last week i came over my friend's home for the weekend in maryland and i was amazed how well CC went on hdtv with DirectTV. it has more than 40 hd channels i think and CC worked just fine on hdtv.
 
I don't have issue with CC on my HDTV, just got frustrated that CC isn't work on component cable then I have switched to composite cable to get CC supported when watch CSI DVD det.
 
i am sorry how frustrated you guys are about hdtv and cc.

personally i have two hdtvs with comcast dvrs(cable boxes) for 2 years. i dont have any problems with these. all cc work on any tv programs.

i ll be happy to assist you how to set up cc on comcast's dvr if you need help. just PM me if you have a question. ok?

I am fine. I hoping they will resolved on these captioning for HDTV. :fingersx:
If it not get resolved, I will use DVD with my regular. Thank, Pacman
for sharing your own story. :)
 
I am fine. I hoping they will resolved on these captioning for HDTV. :fingersx:
If it not get resolved, I will use DVD with my regular. Thank, Pacman
for sharing your own story. :)

If you have enough $$$ then you can buy LG BD/HD-DVD hybrid player to running with beautiful SDH, much more crisper and clear.

It will work on SDTV if you have component input but you will remain on 480p.
 
Wow, I had no idea getting a LCD HDTV tv might cause problems for closed-captioning. Sounds a lot like when one gets a little 13-inch tv the cc is half-chopped off because of the screen size. Anyone have just basic cable (with the coaxial cable--not a cable box) and a tv like this and are having CC problems?
 
Wow, I had no idea getting a LCD HDTV tv might cause problems for closed-captioning. Sounds a lot like when one gets a little 13-inch tv the cc is half-chopped off because of the screen size. Anyone have just basic cable (with the coaxial cable--not a cable box) and a tv like this and are having CC problems?

My first old 13" SDTV then CC is shown in full, not chopped off.

If so then would probably on other SDTV issue, not all are so.
 
I won't buy a HDTV, because them has problem with pictures, closed-captioning, and expensive. I can't afford a LCD or Plasma. They were already spent
on LCD, Plasma, or DLP would be messed up with closed-captioned that is big serious issue, that is BIG waste $$$$ money! :mad:
I'll stick with CRT until problem solved on captioning and price
comes down.

Comcast, Dish Network, DirecTV would want all HD porgramming must be captioned because
deaf and hard-of-hearing would selfish of unauthorized package have captioned..
Right now, there is no require for HD programming so Comcast would lose revenues. Comcast, Satellite companies and NAD will be lobbying to Congress for asking
more captioning laws. If it not resolved on captioning, I will cancel
my cable that why is serious threatening to Comcast revenues. Over the air is free with less channels with clear pictures.


The networks, not the providers (Dish, DirecTV, etc) provide the captions. The providers give us the CC decoders for HDTV.

I have (and love) my DirecTV HR-20. It's a High Definition DVR via DirecTV and they have the closed captioning working really well (after a lot of initial problems).
 
Wow, I had no idea getting a LCD HDTV tv might cause problems for closed-captioning. Sounds a lot like when one gets a little 13-inch tv the cc is half-chopped off because of the screen size. Anyone have just basic cable (with the coaxial cable--not a cable box) and a tv like this and are having CC problems?

I have a 20 inch LCD HDTV in my home office. It is connected to DirecTV and the captions are fine because DirecTV's box decodes them.
 
another thing i wanted to share with you is that last week i came over my friend's home for the weekend in maryland and i was amazed how well CC went on hdtv with DirectTV. it has more than 40 hd channels i think and CC worked just fine on hdtv.

DirecTV's Closed Captioning on HD has always been pretty good. It wasn't on their newer DVR (HR20) and when we complained on DBSTalk.com, the DirecTV engineers heard all the complaints and fixed everything over about 2 months. I was really impressed. I even asked them to move scrolling captions up a bit because on FoxNews they covered people's names--and they did it!

I kept taking pics of the captioning problems, and they kept working on it--until it was really quite perfect.

DirecTV's engineers care about captioning! Really impressive.
 
DirecTV's Closed Captioning on HD has always been pretty good. It wasn't on their newer DVR (HR20) and when we complained on DBSTalk.com, the DirecTV engineers heard all the complaints and fixed everything over about 2 months. I was really impressed. I even asked them to move scrolling captions up a bit because on FoxNews they covered people's names--and they did it!

I kept taking pics of the captioning problems, and they kept working on it--until it was really quite perfect.

DirecTV's engineers care about captioning! Really impressive.

that is really impressive.
 
It is. Their latest software push to that HD DVR said "closed captioning polishing" and I'm thinking... man, where? It works so well!

The only thing I want is an easy way to turn it off quickly when my silly hearie friends are watching TV and my brother isn't. It "distracts" them. Feh. I miss it when it's gone.
 
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