GM scientists puts human gene into rice

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GM industry puts human gene into rice By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor 24 April 2005

Scientists have begun putting genes from human beings into food crops in a dramatic extension of genetic modification. The move, which is causing disgust and revulsion among critics, is bound to strengthen accusations that GM technology is creating "Frankenstein foods" and drive the controversy surrounding it to new heights.

Even before this development, many people, including Prince Charles, have opposed the technology on the grounds that it is playing God by creating unnatural combinations of living things.

Environmentalists say that no one will want to eat the partially human-derived food because it will smack of cannibalism.

But supporters say that the controversial new departure presents no ethical problems and could bring environmental benefits.

In the first modification of its kind, Japanese researchers have inserted a gene from the human liver into rice to enable it to digest pesticides and industrial chemicals. The gene makes an enzyme, code-named CPY2B6, which is particularly good at breaking down harmful chemicals in the body.

Present GM crops are modified with genes from bacteria to make them tolerate herbicides, so that they are not harmed when fields are sprayed to kill weeds. But most of them are only able to deal with a single herbicide, which means that it has to be used over and over again, allowing weeds to build up resistance to it.

But the researchers at the National Institute of Agrobiological Sciences in Tsukuba, north of Tokyo, have found that adding the human touch gave the rice immunity to 13 different herbicides. This would mean that weeds could be kept down by constantly changing the chemicals used.

Supporting scientists say that the gene could also help to beat pollution.

Professor Richard Meilan of Purdue University in Indiana, who has worked with a similar gene from rabbits, says that plants modified with it could "clean up toxins" from contaminated land. They might even destroy them so effectively that crops grown on the polluted soil could be fit to eat.

But he and other scientists caution that if the gene were to escape to wild relatives of the rice it could create particularly vicious superweeds that were resistant to a wide range of herbicides.

He adds: "I do not have any ethical issue with using human genes to engineer plants", dismissing talk of "Frankenstein foods" as "rubbish". He believes that that European opposition to GM crops and food is fuelled by agricultural protectionism.

But Sue Mayer, director of GeneWatch UK, said yesterday: "I don't think that anyone will want to buy this rice. People have already expressed disgust about using human genes, and already feel that their concerns are being ignored by the biotech industry. This will just undermine their confidence even more."

Pete Riley, director of the anti-GM pressure group Five Year Freeze, said: "I am not surprised by this.

"The industry is capable of anything and this development certainly smacks of Frankenstein."

Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=632444 (registration required)


Hmmm, so does it mean that whoever eats these GMO-engineered rices will be called "cannibalists"?
 
I dont know why they call people a cannibalist if they eat that rice.

i'd eat it, but i wouldnt eat a person :crazy:

that comment was probably from an organization much like PETA which i hate with a passion.

its a gene...not a embryo, not a cell, not a living organism...a GENE! just a bunch of instructions put together to tell it how to grow.
 
Well, you are entitled to your beliefs & opinions. If I were you, I wouldn't eat any kind of GMO-engineered foods. Playing 'God' is not smart thing to do. That's one of many pros about UK, they tend to put the harsh bans on these GMO-engineered foods. Smart people.

Oh yes, speaking of "cannibalism", some Christians groups called ithat issue "cannibalism" too. According to several mazagines, they (Christian groups) drive the powerful force behind 'anti-GMO' movement against these companies who are playing 'God' with foods or environment. For once, many of us are glad to have them on our side about this situation.

And I don't think PETA would call it since their agenda is to protect the animals from cruelity which caused by humans. *shrugs* I just get this feeling that PETA didn't say it.
 
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OMG! It's the attack of the human rice! Run for your lives! :eek:
 
This is about as absurd and far-fetched when one tends to make such 'connection' with something 'taken' from the human body and implanting it in food...whereas the 'connection' to the likes of perceiving that the consumption of such food may be considered an act of 'cannibalism', another point of view (like the first thing that came to mind), this could very well be a fitting storyline for a 'Twilight Zone' episode! Surely I may be able to understand the underlying purposes from a scientifical viewpoint in ways to 'improve' the quality of our lives, yet at the same time, the consumers may not be readily to accept these scientific methods. However this is constructively done, I don't think for a minute I would be so enthusiastic to consume such food! :ugh:
 
:eek: I am a cannibalism :eek:

I eat alot of rices, also rice salad, too. :ugh:
 
Roadrunner said:
This is about as absurd and far-fetched when one tends to make such 'connection' with something 'taken' from the human body and implanting it in food...whereas the 'connection' to the likes of perceiving that the consumption of such food may be considered an act of 'cannibalism', another point of view (like the first thing that came to mind), this could very well be a fitting storyline for a 'Twilight Zone' episode! Surely I may be able to understand the underlying purposes from a scientifical viewpoint in ways to 'improve' the quality of our lives, yet at the same time, the consumers may not be readily to accept these scientific methods. However this is constructively done, I don't think for a minute I would be so enthusiastic to consume such food! :ugh:

I feel :barf: when I think "human" body into rice. It make me into cannibalism...(human eater) like what I said in my earlier post... :ugh:

I know that rice is from seed........ but human body...... :ugh:
 
Please don't take my 2 posts seriously about cannibalism. I hope you all take my posts as joking..... :fingersx:
 
Roadrunner said:
This is about as absurd and far-fetched when one tends to make such 'connection' with something 'taken' from the human body and implanting it in food...whereas the 'connection' to the likes of perceiving that the consumption of such food may be considered an act of 'cannibalism', another point of view (like the first thing that came to mind), this could very well be a fitting storyline for a 'Twilight Zone' episode! Surely I may be able to understand the underlying purposes from a scientifical viewpoint in ways to 'improve' the quality of our lives, yet at the same time, the consumers may not be readily to accept these scientific methods. However this is constructively done, I don't think for a minute I would be so enthusiastic to consume such food! :ugh:
For all we know, we're already eating hamburgers. Who are we to say we shouldn't eat rice just because there's human DNA in it? ;)
 
Reminds me of the 1973 science fiction movie Soylent Green.
Disturbing tale of Earth in despair in 2022. Natural food like fruits, vegetables, and meat among others are now extinct. Earth is overpopulated and New York City has 40 million starving, poverty stricken people. The only way they survive is with water rations and eating a mysterious food called Soylent Green with an unidentifiable source. A detective investigates the murder of the president of the Soylent Green company. The truth he uncovers is more disturbing than the Earth in turmoil when he learns the secret ingredient of Soylent Green.
 
Reba, no wonder... I sometimes don't get why these people tend to mock other GMO companies or make some jokes to offend them which tend to mention "Soylent Green" in their comments.

Now I know why and I'd like to watch that movie to see for myself. Thanks!
 
Whats wrong with human genes in rice......they say it tastes just like chicken ;)

All kidding aside, I don't like the idea of any type of cloning or mutating genes. The problem is if something goes wrong, how do you go back? Kind of reminds me of the african killer bees. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but then nature takes its course and then you have a problem you can't get rid of.
 
Taylor said:
Whats wrong with human genes in rice......they say it tastes just like chicken ;)

All kidding aside, I don't like the idea of any type of cloning or mutating genes. The problem is if something goes wrong, how do you go back? Kind of reminds me of the african killer bees. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but then nature takes its course and then you have a problem you can't get rid of.
Hmm... chicken-flavored rice! That might make me eat more rice! ;)
 
Are we headin' to "food shortage" already ? :-o
 
eh everybody is entitled their own opinion.

if most of you understood what a gene was instead of going by the media then many opinions would change.

but then again, most of you seem to be too religious to beleive in the deep science of it anyway.

come think of it...had it not been for medicine and technology, about 50-75% of the population on earth would have died while they were young.

a lot of you think terri schiavo should have stayed on the feeding tube.

now tell me...isnt giving medecine "altering" the way god tended things to be? meaning you went against god's will and kept someone alive when god decided it was their time?

shouldnt terri schiavo have passed away a long time ago? considering that god decided it was time, but we humans, used technology to feed terri in a way that FORCED her to live when god wanted her to go?

i dont mean to start a huge fight or debate, like i said everybody can have their own opinion and this is mine, but if these medicines and technologies are being used to keep people alive instead of going as god wished....then im sure eating rice with just one millionth or billionth of a human gene in it wont kill you guys ;)
 
No fight here.. just laughing at the Soylent Green thing. :thumb:
Scientists are always discovering new things everyday. We have found over 100 new planets already, whale remains in the desert, that king tut wasn't murdered, etc etc...
 
Cjanik said:
if most of you understood what a gene was instead of going by the media then many opinions would change.
If you understand what GMO can do to us (reading numbers of medical books & journals like I did) instead of going by GMO companies, scientists (funded by GMO companies or governments) and governments' mouthpieces then your opinion would change. That's one of many useful about being a doctor-student or doctor. This book, The Truth About Children's Health is good to start with.

Cjanik said:
but then again, most of you seem to be too religious to beleive in the deep science of it anyway.
*chuckle* That is funny but again, that's your view. If anything else, I am not that religious person, I am more of 'reality-based' or 'science-based'. What is the difference is that I actually use my brain to think. Unlike some science-based people, I tend to dissect to find which is wrong and which is right also find out who is funded by what or who (that's the key). In some cases, religious people do know what they were talking about while scientists (mostly funded by certain companies or governments) don't.

Cjanik said:
come think of it...had it not been for medicine and technology, about 50-75% of the population on earth would have died while they were young.
Really? Hmm, now... I wonder why prescripition medicines alone causes more than 200,000 deaths in America annual? According to well-known medical journals that prescription medicines alone causes more than 2 million deaths annually worldwide. And numbers of deaths are increasing per year. Do you know that there are many more deaths which cause by technology and medicines than anything else? Ok, let's talk about technology for few seconds. What about car accidents? Airplane accidents? Nuclear meltdown (Chernobyl)? Technologies in wars? Injuries & deaths in factories? Deaths from technology-manufactured beers & hard liquids? List is nearly limitless. Only because we didn't see these in the papers does not mean that it's not happen. I wonder why there are many diseases nowaday which never have been exist in pre-1800 eras?

Cjanik said:
a lot of you think terri schiavo should have stayed on the feeding tube.

now tell me...isnt giving medecine "altering" the way god tended things to be? meaning you went against god's will and kept someone alive when god decided it was their time?

shouldnt terri schiavo have passed away a long time ago? considering that god decided it was time, but we humans, used technology to feed terri in a way that FORCED her to live when god wanted her to go?
I don't. I firmly believe that Nature should take its path, not us. So therefore I practice what I preach.

Cjanik said:
then im sure eating rice with just one millionth or billionth of a human gene in it wont kill you guys ;)
Guess who said that similar comment to other people? Cigarette companies. And know what? It causes more than nearly 5 million deaths annually worldwide ;) Guess who said that similar comment to many patients? Aspirin manufacturers. And know what? It causes more than 32,000 deaths per year in America alone plus many numbers of liver problems & 'stomach hole' conditions.

And... guess who also said that similar comment to the children in school and parents few years ago? Irradiated meat & food companies and it causes many health problems plus unique diseases that they never see before when they provided the Irradiated meats & foods at the school. Parents found out through scientists and other groups and howled then banned the Irradiated foods from school. List go on and on...

It is understandable for some companies to fool around with the medicines since we can make a choice to not take it or take it. But foods? It will be completely disaster if it gets out of control (it always do).

Anyway well, you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am entitled to my opinion. I don't want to debate or fight either. I am here to state the facts and my opinion. Actually I found it enjoyable that you and I have the different opinions about 'GMO' which made this topic more interesting to discuss (or debate). Cheers.
 
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I wish to goodness I could remember where, but I read a few months ago about an experiment in which they placed two bowls in a room of rats, with one bowl being normal grains and the other being genetically modified grains.
They did not touch the GM grains.
Does anyone know the link? It was fascinating and disturbing. It ought to tell us a LOT how animals react to modified food.
 
Beowulf said:
I wish to goodness I could remember where, but I read a few months ago about an experiment in which they placed two bowls in a room of rats, with one bowl being normal grains and the other being genetically modified grains.
They did not touch the GM grains.
Does anyone know the link? It was fascinating and disturbing. It ought to tell us a LOT how animals react to modified food.
Ah! I cannot believe that I didn't mention about that one! You da man! That study is worldwidely well-known. They also did experiment on cows, ducks, etc.. and none of them eats the GMO foods at all when given a choice between non-GMO crops and GMO corps. In many, many cases, animals are smarter than us, humans. They instinctively know which is right and which is wrong. To add one thing, when given a choice, monkeys rather to eat the cereal box than cereal itself. It is frightening thing to know.

Beowulf, I cannot find that article either but I will try my best to find it but here's the fact:
Mice avoid eating GM foods when they have the chance, as do rats, cows, pigs, geese, elk, squirrels, and others. What do these animals know that we don’t? At the end of each chapter is a one-page story describing how farmers, students, and scientists discovered that animals refuse to eat the same GM foods that we consume everyday.

Excerpt:

The Washington Post reported that laboratory mice, usually happy to munch on tomatoes, turned their noses up at the genetically modified FlavrSavr tomato. Scientist Roger Salquist said of his tomato, “I gotta tell you, you can be Chef Boyardee and mice are still not going to like them.”[8] The mice were eventually force fed the tomato through gastric tubes and stomach washes. Several developed stomach lesions; seven of forty died within two weeks. The tomato was approved without further tests.
Source: http://www.wanttoknow.info/deception10pg

"force fed the tomato through gastric tubes and stomach washes"

Can anyone imagine about that one? Anyway, there are over 50 references & links in that long article.

Cjanik said:
then im sure eating rice with just one millionth or billionth of a human gene in it wont kill you guys
"The mice were eventually force fed the tomato through gastric tubes and stomach washes. Several developed stomach lesions; seven of forty died within two weeks."

And..

"When eminent scientist Arpad Pusztai went public about his accidental discovery that genetically modified (GM) potatoes severely damage the immune system and organs of rats, he was suspended from the prestigious Scottish research institute where he had worked for thirty-five years. He was silenced with threats of a lawsuit while the Institute denied or distorted his findings.

In the ensuing war over public opinion, biotech advocates tried to spin the science in favor of GM foods, but were thwarted at each attempt by leaked documents and compelling evidence. Pusztai, who describes this chapter as “the most thorough and accurate report on the topic,” was ultimately vindicated when his potato study was published in the Lancet. His remains the only independent safety assessment in a peer-reviewed journal. It contrasts sharply with the handful of published industry studies, an analysis of which reveals how they were designed to avoid finding problems.
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That article have many more information... Read it on, Cjanik.

Another good link: http://www.seedsofdeception.com/ -- got it from that article. They published a book about GMO too, I definitely want to buy it to add to my book shelves.

Beowulf, many thanks for mentioning about that one. I completely forget about that one!
 
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Actually, the scientists might promote the rats' aversion to the genetically engineered food as a benefit. Why? Because in many places, especially "third world" or under-developed countries, too much food, especially grains, is eaten by rodent pests. The scientists could say that the engineered food is more resistant to pest spoilage.

Just a thought.
 
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