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Reba said:
"The current unemployment rate is nearly identical to what former President Bill Clinton had when he ran for reelection in 1996."

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/march/0319_bush_unemployment_clintonp.shtml


Unemployment has fallen from a high of 6.4 percent in June 2003 to 5.6 percent in February 2004.

The current unemployment rate is nearly identical to what former President Bill Clinton had when he ran for reelection in 1996

Read it: it says reelection in 1996 that doesn't cover full 8 yrs.
 
Cheri said:
Read it: it says reelection in 1996 that doesn't cover full 8 yrs.
Right. We are comparing two equivalent points in time. Apples to apples.
 
Apples and oranges.
There was a HUGE surplus, and the first thing Bush did was give it to the rich.
Check it out, it is so easy to get the facts.
 
If you want 2 know more presidential candidates, you can go 2 www.politics1.com then click on P2004.... Otherwise you may want 2 know who else are running in your state, just click on states. I've used that www site many times and it is useful.
 
The movie "Stolen Honor" shows the truth about John Kerry's character but the Democrats are doing all they can to prevent showing it on TV.

Here is part of the story:

John Kerry Wants to Stop You From Seeing This Film

John Kerry and his allies are so afraid you will see this film, they even tried to have the FCC ban it from the airwaves.

After tremendous pressure from liberal groups and media, Sinclair Broadcasting will air only part of "Stolen Honor."

Kerry's aides have even threatened Sinclair, hinting that if they are elected they will exact revenge....

For the full story:

http://www.newsmax.com/adv/stolenhonor/?refid=24
 
Reba said:
The movie "Stolen Honor" shows the truth about John Kerry's character but the Democrats are doing all they can to prevent showing it on TV.

Here is part of the story:



For the full story:

http://www.newsmax.com/adv/stolenhonor/?refid=24


The past is not important and it should not be important as elect for President. Leave Personal things out it has nothing to do with what we need for America.
 
Cheri said:
The past is not important and it should not be important as elect for President. Leave Personal things out it has nothing to do with what we need for America.
They are not "personal" things. It is a matter of character. John Kerry is the one who keeps emphasizing his service in Vietnam. The truth is, he became a traitor when he returned to the States and lied about his fellow servicemen. Because of those lies, our American POWs suffered torture and death. Because of his lies, the North Vietnamese Communists praised Kerry for helping them defeat the Americans.

Michael Moore was allowed to show Fahrenheit 9/11; why can't the veterans show Stolen Honor?
 
"They are not "personal" things. It is a matter of character. John Kerry is the one who keeps emphasizing his service in Vietnam. The truth is, he became a traitor when he returned to the States and lied about his fellow servicemen. Because of those lies, our American POWs suffered torture and death. Because of his lies, the North Vietnamese Communists praised Kerry for helping them defeat the Americans."

Kerry NEVER said he saw them. He testified what he heard from other veterans about the atrocities committed against human beings. Atrocities DID OCCUR and that's a fact, not opinion. My friend served in that war and told me he has executed several people. He said that he doesn't care about the atrocities because in his view, it was war and it was expected.

Kerry spoke against the war and that's his freedom. Many people back then didn't like the war either so someone had to speak up and say it's enough. Since Kerry SERVED in that war, he HAS the right to speak against it. Doesn't mean he's turning his back on veterans. On the contrary, he fully believes every veteran should be taken care of.

-jeff
 
"Michael Moore was allowed to show Fahrenheit 9/11; why can't the veterans show Stolen Honor?"

People PAY to watch Moore's film. Stolen Honor is being broadcasted for free - big difference. That's where the controversy is.

-jeff
 
I vote for Kerry because he doesn't allow his own beliefs to be crammed on others, which Bush is quite good at. He personally thinks abortion is wrong but defends a woman's right to have one. I happen to agree. He personally opposes gay marriage but opposes the idea of adding an amendment to the Consitutition. I agree. He believes in God but wouldn't impose his religion on others, like Bush is with faith based initiatives. I agree. I am an agnostic but I consider religion very important for many people.

As for Iraq war, I've opposed the war from the beginning. The pretext for the war was that Saddam was a threat and has tons of WMD. After a year and half, the threat has been determeined to be exaggerated by several independent committees.

We need to improve our relations with the rest of the world. We've become one of the most hated nations and that's not good. We need to set a good role model for them. Bush does absolutely nothing to heal those wounds. Kerry wants to improve relations. Anti-Kerry people say that voting for Kerry is voting for terrorists and that's hocus pocus. It's a scare tactic. We will continue to fight against terrorism (and terrorism has been around since the humankind - nothing new).

Conservatives are fond of saying that liberals are bad but it was liberals that gave you the freedom of speech. It was liberals that gave you the freedom of religion. It was liberals that gave you civil rights. It was liberals that help protect you from pollutions. It was liberals that gave social programs to the needy. It was liberals that gave you better consumer choices. It was liberals that gave you fair trial. I could go on and on. Liberalism is what makes us free.

And you know what? Bush is telling you that it's bad to vote for a liberal senator!

-jeff
 
netrox said:
Kerry NEVER said he saw them. He testified what he heard from other veterans about the atrocities committed against human beings.
Vet: Kerry Pressured Me to Lie About Atrocities
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Oct. 20, 2004
"Vietnam veteran Steve Pitkin claims that John Kerry pressured him to lie in 1971 when he claimed U.S. soldiers engaged in atrocities during the Vietnam War...."

http://newsmax.com/scripts/printer_...com/archives/articles/2004/10/19/203211.shtml

Also, Kerry himself said that he shot a young Vietnamese man in the back and killed him. Why was that statement never investigated?

My friend served in that war and told me he has executed several people. He said that he doesn't care about the atrocities because in his view, it was war and it was expected.
I have also known Vietnam veterans and POWs. I was on active duty during the Vietnam war, and I worked with many returning veterans. Atrocities are never acceptable or "expected" as part of war by professional American soldiers. If soldiers commit atrocities, they should be punished by court martial.

Kerry spoke against the war and that's his freedom.
Speaking against the war is one thing. Supporting the enemy while our men are prisoners is totally different. Kerry actually went to Paris to meet with the Communist Vietnamese enemy leaders. That is not just "speaking" against the war.

Thanks to the things Kerry said, Vietnam veterans returned home from war and people spat on them and called them "baby killers".

The only reason Kerry spoke against the war was because he saw an opportunity for himself to become famous and important. He didn't care about the American soldiers dying.

On the contrary, he fully believes every veteran should be taken care of.
Then why did he vote against funding for the military? They can't be "taken care of" without money.
 
And

I believe abortion is wrong too, so that means I could never run for a president.... :(
 
^Angel^ said:
And

I believe abortion is wrong too, so that means I could never run for a president.... :(
Why not? You (and anyone else) CAN run for President if you're against abortion! We need a President who can outlaw abortion! :)
 
This is not "personal" old news; this is current behavior by Kerry and his supporters against the public showing of the "Stolen Honor" news special:
....David Smith, president and CEO of Sinclair, noted: "The experience of preparing to air this news special has been trying for many of those involved. The company and many of its executives have endured personal attacks of the vilest nature, as well as calls on our advertisers and our viewers to boycott our stations and on our shareholders to sell their stock. In addition, and more shockingly, we have received threats of retribution from a member of Senator John Kerry's campaign and have seen attempts by leading members of Congress to influence the Federal Communications Commission to stop Sinclair from broadcasting this news special. Moreover, these coordinated attacks have occurred without regard to the facts since they predated the broadcast of our news special...."
 
Brian said:
Why not? You (and anyone else) CAN run for President if you're against abortion! We need a President who can outlaw abortion! :)

Thank you Brian :Oops: ...
 
Former POW: Kerry Preyed on My Family
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2004
A former Vietnam War prisoner of war charges that as he was being tortured by his communist captors, John Kerry was preying on his family to denounce the United States.

The new allegation against Kerry is made in . . . by James H. Warner, a former Marine Corps naval flight officer who won the Silver Star after spending more than five years in a North Vietnamese prison.

. . . Kerry did more than protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War – he also worked to help the North Vietnamese by getting families of POWs to criticize the U.S. government.

When Capt. James (Jim) Howie Warner was shot down on Oct. 13, 1967, he could hardly have known at the time that his pain and suffering would be enhanced by a recently discharged naval officer-turned-war protester named John Kerry.


As Warner suffered brutal treatment in Vietnam, young Kerry was helping to organize the infamous Winter Soldier hearings held in Detroit, Mich., at the end of January and into early February of 1971.

Warner recounts that Kerry personally recruited his grieving mother to testify at the Winter Soldier hearings – testimony that Warner was confronted and taunted with while in captivity, testimony that later appeared in John Kerry’s infamous wartime book, “The New Soldier.”

. . . I wondered how did someone persuade her? Then they showed me a statement by John Kerry. I know that he did talk to her and my sisters. It is really a contemptible act to take a grieving old lady and prey upon her grief and manipulate her grief purely for the promotion of your own political agenda.”
read more at:
http://newsmax.com/scripts/printer_...com/archives/articles/2004/10/18/215125.shtml
 
netrox said:
"Michael Moore was allowed to show Fahrenheit 9/11; why can't the veterans show Stolen Honor?"

People PAY to watch Moore's film. Stolen Honor is being broadcasted for free - big difference. That's where the controversy is.

-jeff
The veterans don't want a profit from their documentary. They raised their own money to pay for it. Everything they are doing is legal. No one is forced to watch it.
 
^Angel^ said:
And

I believe abortion is wrong too, so that means I could never run for a president.... :(
Yes, you can! You would get a LOT of support! :)
 
Reba said:
They are not "personal" things. It is a matter of character. John Kerry is the one who keeps emphasizing his service in Vietnam. The truth is, he became a traitor when he returned to the States and lied about his fellow servicemen. Because of those lies, our American POWs suffered torture and death. Because of his lies, the North Vietnamese Communists praised Kerry for helping them defeat the Americans.

Michael Moore was allowed to show Fahrenheit 9/11; why can't the veterans show Stolen Honor?


If Michael Moore want to be immature let him that doesn't mean everyone have to follow. Things in the Past should be kept private and I never cared what Bill Clinton did to women like Moncia for example so what! Why do people make a big deal out of it? It doesn't effect me at all, what effect me the most is how America is running.:)
 
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