Brake Service

Chevy57 said:
I think to need one new rotor (new caliper if necessary) and four pads at all.
Click to expand...

I popped out that your car maybe need brake flushing, thanks Highlander. Every vehicles with brake fluids, should flushing or changing every 1 or 2 years depend on humidy weather. They usually come with the brake jobs but not always.
 
Interesting, I sit and watch this show.

I do brake job alot on my own, and it is rather easy if know what to do.

I never send anyone to fix my brakes. I do em myself. The last time I did was total brake overall, dont tell me Im nuts, I replaced everything, pads, rotors on my trusty Cherokee, cost me only 140 dollars.

Some cars have brakes that got "Throw away" rotors. It is best to replace rotors, than to just cut it. I no longer would cut my rotors. Nobody in my area is gonna cut anyway.

yes old days I do cut the rotors for 5 dollars each.

I realize it is not worth the investment because it does waste my time. I wish today rotors are as good as back in 80's

My co worker spent only 90 dollars to replace the pads and rotors on his Honda. Interesting 4 bolts version. Yep, I helped him and he was shocked to find out how easy it was. Saved him 400 dollars from Midas. Mind you, David it was without calipers replacements. His calipers were fine.
 
Diehardbiker, my car still has the orginal brake rotors and never has been resurfaced. All I needed is new brake pads and paid only $90 for them with labor. The car has 107k miles on it now. It still stops smoothly and doesn't vibrate when stopping at all. Not bad for a 2000 model year. The older hondas had lot of issues with brake rotors warping.
 
diehardbiker said:
Interesting, I sit and watch this show.

I do brake job alot on my own, and it is rather easy if know what to do.

I never send anyone to fix my brakes. I do em myself. The last time I did was total brake overall, dont tell me Im nuts, I replaced everything, pads, rotors on my trusty Cherokee, cost me only 140 dollars.

Some cars have brakes that got "Throw away" rotors. It is best to replace rotors, than to just cut it. I no longer would cut my rotors. Nobody in my area is gonna cut anyway.

yes old days I do cut the rotors for 5 dollars each.

I realize it is not worth the investment because it does waste my time. I wish today rotors are as good as back in 80's

My co worker spent only 90 dollars to replace the pads and rotors on his Honda. Interesting 4 bolts version. Yep, I helped him and he was shocked to find out how easy it was. Saved him 400 dollars from Midas. Mind you, David it was without calipers replacements. His calipers were fine.
Click to expand...

Agreed. Jeep brake jobs are so easy to fix. One thing is I hate drum brakes.
If I'm a backyard mechanic, I would buy new rotors instead of remachine rotors at the shop that take your time on trip to pick up rotors or spend ur time to waiting. Wasteful.
 
sequoias said:
Diehardbiker, my car still has the orginal brake rotors and never has been resurfaced. All I needed is new brake pads and paid only $90 for them with labor. The car has 107k miles on it now. It still stops smoothly and doesn't vibrate when stopping at all. Not bad for a 2000 model year. The older hondas had lot of issues with brake rotors warping.
Click to expand...
wtf? Damn it. My son complained squealing noise from a 2003 Civic. I took it to my work, found nothing wrong with front rotors and pads but I see
little scores on the rotor surfaces then decided to remachining both rotors and planed the reuseable pads on the sandpapered surface to flat spots, reinstalled rotors and pads. No squealing noises. I think it was about 45k miles on it last 3 years ago.
Im jealous at your virgin brake rotors. Yeah older Hondas that one I hate is the front brake rotors that bolted on the hubs (inner), you have to cracking the upper/lower ball joints and axle nut to take the knuckle off come with rotor/hub for remachine. Today, mechanics will replace rotors without remachine regardless if the rotors are good shape. I did slap on the new pads without remachine rotors. I think they are from pre 94 Accords.
I've been trouble with Honda with rear drum brakes, difficult for my big hands. Good for Vietnamese mechanics with small hands that can handle the Honda rear drum brake jobs better than me.
 
deafsmogtech said:
wtf? Damn it. My son complained squealing noise from a 2003 Civic. I took it to my work, found nothing wrong with front rotors and pads but I see
little scores on the rotor surfaces then decided to remachining both rotors and planed the reuseable pads on the sandpapered surface to flat spots, reinstalled rotors and pads. No squealing noises. I think it was about 45k miles on it last 3 years ago.
Im jealous at your virgin brake rotors. Yeah older Hondas that one I hate is the front brake rotors that bolted on the hubs (inner), you have to cracking the upper/lower ball joints and axle nut to take the knuckle off come with rotor/hub for remachine. Today, mechanics will replace rotors without remachine regardless if the rotors are good shape. I did slap on the new pads without remachine rotors. I think they are from pre 94 Accords.
I've been trouble with Honda with rear drum brakes, difficult for my big hands. Good for Vietnamese mechanics with small hands that can handle the Honda rear drum brake jobs better than me.
Click to expand...

Ha, thanks for the tip...I'll take it to the shop for rear brake drum jobs. I have no idea how to work on them, haha. I do know how to replace rotors on the front, it's easy job I agree.
 
The Highlander said:
That's all you need to replace a new brake pad and cut brake rotor depend how deep it is.

Replace all four rotors are rip off. It's useless.

The caliper need to rebuild like replace the new o-ring if it got stuck. It's cheaper than replace the new caliper.
Click to expand...

Replace 2 or 4 rotors are better than remachine rotors. Why? Let me to explain to you if the labor rate on front brake job is $110 include remachine rotors (exempt pack ball bearing on hubbed rotors), you see scored rotors, that may take long time to turning the rotors repeat to clean the surfaces. How long? about 45 minutes to 1 hour for remove wheels,calipers and take rotors off and set up a lathe machine to run the rotors plus another 30 minutes on cleaning both calipers and reinstall. Take 1 1/2hour labor time. Sound little longer. Labor rate for $110 a hour. Your comission is 40%. Sound fair pay but you replace new front rotors that come out of the box and install that take you 15 minutes less than hour of labor time.
You can do it by 30 minutes or less you still get labor hour rate pay. Why waste work on lathe machine? You have to sell something to make you easy money. Invest money on fancy Snap On tools.
I recently worked on a 2005 Porsche 911 Carerra, the labor for replace rear rotors/ pads, called 1.5 hour, I took it 30 minutes. Big money for a service writer, he charged a customer almost $1K for rear brake job only.
Same labor hour rate on both remachine or replace new rotors. I prefer new rotors
 
Last edited:
sequoias said:
Diehardbiker, my car still has the orginal brake rotors and never has been resurfaced. All I needed is new brake pads and paid only $90 for them with labor. The car has 107k miles on it now. It still stops smoothly and doesn't vibrate when stopping at all. Not bad for a 2000 model year. The older hondas had lot of issues with brake rotors warping.
Click to expand...

You got right mechanic from shop. You are lucky!
 
deafsmogtech said:
Replace 2 or 4 rotors are better than remachine rotors. Why? Let me to explain to you if the labor rate on front brake job is $110 include remachine rotors (exempt pack ball bearing on hubbed rotors), you see scored rotors, that may take long time to turning the rotors repeat to clean the surfaces. How long? about 45 minutes to 1 hour for remove wheels,calipers and take rotors off and set up a lathe machine to run the rotors plus another 30 minutes on cleaning both calipers and reinstall. Take 1 1/2hour labor time. Sound little longer. Labor rate for $110 a hour. Your comission is 40%. Sound fair pay but you replace new front rotors that come out of the box and install that take you 15 minutes less than hour of labor time.
You can do it by 30 minutes or less you still get labor hour rate pay. Why waste work on lathe machine? You have to sell something to make you easy money. Invest money on fancy Snap On tools.
I recently worked on a 2005 Porsche 911 Carerra, the labor for replace rear rotors/ pads, called 1.5 hour, I took it 30 minutes. Big money for a service writer, he charged a customer almost $1K for rear brake job only.
Same labor hour rate on both remachine or replace new rotors. I prefer new rotors
Click to expand...

Really? My school's lathe machine at slow mode take around 5 minutes for each rotor. I hate to smell and my nose got itch from metal dust in the air.

I remembered I removed rear drum from 90' GMC Sierra then use lathe machine then clean job then then replace whole new parts for brake shoes, return springs, guide, adjusting screw, etc.. then done under 1 hour.

Maybe I did too quick? :dunno:

I understand what you mean about labor rate, I did same thing at old job like I replaced DSLR under 10min and I put 1 hour in the system.

Almost $1k for rear brake job? Geez!
 
Shop mechanic had fixed rear brakes for sanding both of rotors and new pads. no need new rotors and calipers. Lots of saving!! Total charge plus labor at $135. Not so bad. :)
 
I dont mind drum, the hardest part is removing the drum, that is because there is groove where the drum would stuck, if the spring bolt is rusty, it is hard to loosen it to take the rotor out. I rarely bother drum brakes because they wear out slower than pads.

I forgot mention that both of my jee caliper happens to be same and it cost only 20 dollars. I had two caliper replaced one for each Jeep due to stuck. I did off road hard and it was muddy. got it stuck, I decided to replace it.

BTW I had great time in Salt Lake City, yeah I am in the heart of Salt lake city, wow nice gateway plaza. food, damn good.

deafsmogtech said:
Agreed. Jeep brake jobs are so easy to fix. One thing is I hate drum brakes.
If I'm a backyard mechanic, I would buy new rotors instead of remachine rotors at the shop that take your time on trip to pick up rotors or spend ur time to waiting. Wasteful.
Click to expand...
 
diehardbiker said:
I dont mind drum, the hardest part is removing the drum, that is because there is groove where the drum would stuck, if the spring bolt is rusty, it is hard to loosen it to take the rotor out. I rarely bother drum brakes because they wear out slower than pads.

I forgot mention that both of my jee caliper happens to be same and it cost only 20 dollars. I had two caliper replaced one for each Jeep due to stuck. I did off road hard and it was muddy. got it stuck, I decided to replace it.

BTW I had great time in Salt Lake City, yeah I am in the heart of Salt lake city, wow nice gateway plaza. food, damn good.
Click to expand...

Same happen to the Jeeps. Horribly job
 
Chevy57 said:
Shop mechanic had fixed rear brakes for sanding both of rotors and new pads. no need new rotors and calipers. Lots of saving!! Total charge plus labor at $135. Not so bad. :)
Click to expand...

Let us to know if your rear brake still good after few weeks to month depend how your drive. If nothing happen then it's good.

If problem again then caliper need to rebuild/replace.


deafsmogtech, I guess your lathe machine is outdated since it's pretty slow job?
 
The Highlander said:
Let us to know if your rear brake still good after few weeks to month depend how your drive. If nothing happen then it's good.

If problem again then caliper need to rebuild/replace.


deafsmogtech, I guess your lathe machine is outdated since it's pretty slow job?
Click to expand...

I will agree with highlander. Garage shop service is very good and many years. Almost mechanics are Russian/Ukraine native.
 
Chevy57 said:
I don't know from where? My friend told me that they had emigrated from Russia and Ukraine.
Click to expand...
I mean, where are all these Russian and Ukrainian mechanics working? We deal with a lot of auto repair places (unfortunately), and I haven't noticed any of them.
 
Reba said:
I mean, where are all these Russian and Ukrainian mechanics working? We deal with a lot of auto repair places (unfortunately), and I haven't noticed any of them.
Click to expand...

Well, Cleveland area has lot of Russian and Ukrainian livings. These repair shops are cheaper charge for repair and labor than American repair shops. Does your city have Russian and Ukraine livings?
 
Back
Top