Brake Service

Chevy57 said:
Shop mechanic had fixed rear brakes for sanding both of rotors and new pads. no need new rotors and calipers. Lots of saving!! Total charge plus labor at $135. Not so bad. :)
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Sanding on the scored rotor? You made me sad. Damn it.
 
The Highlander said:
Let us to know if your rear brake still good after few weeks to month depend how your drive. If nothing happen then it's good.

If problem again then caliper need to rebuild/replace.


deafsmogtech, I guess your lathe machine is outdated since it's pretty slow job?
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If you sand the scored rotor and glazed rotor and install new pads, the pad life may be short cuz the scored surface shave off the fresh pad. You are correct
about the caliper to be replace if the tapered pads revealed.

Our brake machine is outdated like many shops even dealerships in everywhere, still running, the speed in the brake lathe is lowest to fastest
adjustable knob. Popular AMMO lathes have 3 speed by change V- belt on the driven pulleys.
 
A deaf couple came to see me today at the station, she complained that her 2003 Toyota RAV-4 had some noise in the rear when she backed her car. But her mother heard it, told her it was from rear as she was right about the noise. I pulled the rear wheels and inspected the rear drums, found the brake shoes ok, noticed the glazed surfaces inside the drums. Another drum showed blueish colored. I guided her to see the rear brakes and explained to her that the noise may come from the front brakes cuz the noise in the front can be travel (tramsitts) to the rear brakes. I recommend Turning the drums,sanding the shoe linings and adjust. She oked with me. I see the little egg shaped in the drum while remachining. I reinstalled the drums and torqued the lug nuts.
One last question I asked her, did you forget to leave the handbrake on while driving? She said one time. (she was nervously). I told her it was caused the one drum blueing. I charged her $36 dollars instead of $89. She was seem
happy.
 
Chevy57 said:
Well, Cleveland area has lot of Russian and Ukrainian livings. These repair shops are cheaper charge for repair and labor than American repair shops. Does your city have Russian and Ukraine livings?
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Cheaper repairs/labors = cheap parts (poor quality parts) and unskill mechanics plus comeback repeatly.
 
I've been servicing about 50 deaf customers since 1996 at the stations. I tell you they were more than comtfort and understand clear better than their prevous repair shops that they use notes/pens to write to communicating with the service writers. Often they dont understand what the service writer explained to them in simple English language.
 
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deafsmogtech said:
Cheaper repairs/labors = cheap parts (poor quality parts) and unskill mechanics plus comeback repeatly.
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Not true. They are skill mechanics in many years. American mechanics request to replace new rotors and calipers and won't do with machine rotors. They are lazy and be faster to replace than do machine rotors.
 
Not true? Have you heard of "You get what you pay for"?

I am sorry, Deafsmogtech is right on this one. Cheapo parts equals shorter lifespan.

Chevy57 said:
Not true. They are skill mechanics in many years. American mechanics request to replace new rotors and calipers and won't do with machine rotors. They are lazy and be faster to replace than do machine rotors.
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diehardbiker said:
Not true? Have you heard of "You get what you pay for"?

I am sorry, Deafsmogtech is right on this one. Cheapo parts equals shorter lifespan.
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I got new Bosch brake pads for both of rear rotors at $52. cheap parts?
 
Chevy57 said:
Not true. They are skill mechanics in many years. American mechanics request to replace new rotors and calipers and won't do with machine rotors. They are lazy and be faster to replace than do machine rotors.
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Well, one example is: Dealership hires young techs to working on the vehicles, he/she has some auto tech training or mechanical background or no experince, are still be an apprentice technician. Apprentice tech is unskilled in the type of the repairs. Even they (apprenticers) can become a good mechanic in few days depend on their mechanical ability.
Long time ago, I used to remachining brake rotors/drums like old fashion way. But today's younger technicians are real pussies cuz they dont like the brake lathe machines that make them noises, and other is lazy work as they want new parts to be install on the job instead of rebuilding calipers or wheel cylinders whatever.
Time is money. Big changes in automotive repairs. Sad.
 
Chevy57 said:
I got new Bosch brake pads for both of rear rotors at $52. cheap parts?
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Bosch pads? wtf, I never seen it before. But I see "BOSCH" casting on the calipers I think they are using on GM or Ford something. :hmm:

PS $52 Bosch pads, sounds normal price. not bad
 
The Highlander said:
Why?

Maybe he mean turn rotor?
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Scored surfaces are hard to sanding with an air grinder w/ sanding disc, take more time and mist of dust out everywhere. Don't try them on the exotic car, sell rotors and make you easy work. You can sand little scores or glazed rotors/drums.
I gambled on the 4WD Toyota Landcruise's front brake rotors that I slapped new pads in the calipers without remove the rotors for remachining cuz the hubs are
required to remove that made me hands real greasely. I judged the surfaces of the rotors by check warpages and thickness with dial indicator/mircometer to see if they are ok.
 
deafsmogtech said:
Well, one example is: Dealership hires young techs to working on the vehicles, he/she has some auto tech training or mechanical background or no experince, are still be an apprentice technician. Apprentice tech is unskilled in the type of the repairs. Even they (apprenticers) can become a good mechanic in few days depend on their mechanical ability.
Long time ago, I used to remachining brake rotors/drums like old fashion way. But today's younger technicians are real pussies cuz they dont like the brake lathe machines that make them noises, and other is lazy work as they want new parts to be install on the job instead of rebuilding calipers or wheel cylinders whatever.
Time is money. Big changes in automotive repairs. Sad.
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Yeah! I am young technician and I have no problem with lathe machine.

You are master technician and you prefer replace the new part over lathe machine. Most new younger and new technicians student still prefer lathe machine for save money.
 
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Chevy57 said:
Well, Cleveland area has lot of Russian and Ukrainian livings. These repair shops are cheaper charge for repair and labor than American repair shops. Does your city have Russian and Ukraine livings?
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We don't have a large population of Russians and Ukrainians in our area. We haven't met any that are mechanics. I know one doctor and one cobbler.
 
Chevy57 said:
My Honda CR-V s rear brake is squealing while stopping. One rotor is not good. I need replacement one. I went garage shop to get estimate for four rotors, calipers and pads but service cost plus labor and tax is approx. $700. Too much. Do you think that s worth for this price? I will look for cheap cost of brake shop.
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Why do you think you need new calipers?
 
rockdrummer said:
Why do you think you need new calipers?
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Mechanic said two rear calipers are very good and not needing to replace new ones. one pad is worn out. other is good. they replace two new pads.
 
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