Another, "I didn't do it!"

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jillio said:
Why do you think they go to such trouble to discredit? So they can say...see, she deserved it.:cool2: She's a bad bad woman; can't believe her.
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First of all, who are "they?" Please don't use pronouns without antecedents.

No, that's not what discrediting is about. If the accuser's testimony is discredited, then that means no sexual harassment/assault/abuse happened. If nothing happened, then how can she "deserve" it? There is nothing to "deserve."
 
Schemers were exposed. The big band has already come and gone. Fresh out of popcorn and your still sitting in the stands with your shoes sticking to the floor.
 
Reba said:
First of all, who are "they?" Please don't use pronouns without antecedents.

No, that's not what discrediting is about. If the accuser's testimony is discredited, then that means no sexual harassment/assault/abuse happened. If nothing happened, then how can she "deserve" it? There is nothing to "deserve."
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You know very well who "they" are.

It means nothing of the kind.
 
Steinhauer said:
Schemers were exposed. The big band has already come and gone. Fresh out of popcorn and your still sitting in the stands with your shoes sticking to the floor.
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:bowlol:

You are going to be the most disappointed one person I know of...well, maybe second to Herman Cain.:laugh2:
 
TXgolfer said:
Sure, Providing the complaints along with the findings could be considered proof possibly. Let's see them

Are you saying the incidents claimed by the accusers are spread out over 15 year?
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I am saying the first incident was to have occured approximately 15 years ago. It was brought forward by the press, not the victims. In the last few days, 3 more women have come forward vountarily. Yep, that would cover a span of about 15 years. And we don't know that more victims won't come forward before it dies down. I mean, Nancy Pelosi might file one after he opened his mouth yesterday.:laugh2:

It has been confirmed that the reports exist, and there is documentation of the settlements paid. But you just seem to think that everyone but Cain is lying. LOL
 
jillio said:
You know very well who "they" are.
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No, I don't. I'm not a mind reader.

If you either don't know, or refuse to name them, then just say so.

I really don't understand why you are so contrary to every polite request.

It means nothing of the kind.
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To you.
 
Steinhauer said:
Schemers were exposed. The big band has already come and gone. Fresh out of popcorn and your still sitting in the stands with your shoes sticking to the floor.
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I don't patronize the kind of theaters where your shoes stick to the floor. But evidently, you know quite a bit about them.:cool2:
 
jillio said:
I don't patronize the kind of theaters where your shoes stick to the floor. But evidently, you know quite a bit about them.:cool2:
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Do they still have those? I can see the marquee now for the Cain movie...

From the Liberals; "Raising Cain" the story of his sexual indiscretions.
From the Conservatives; "Praising Cain" the story of the next great hope.
 
saywhatkid said:
Do they still have those? I can see the marquee now for the Cain movie...

From the Liberals; "Raising Cain" the story of his sexual indiscretions.
From the Conservatives; "Praising Cain" the story of the next great hope.
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I don't know if they are still around or not. Steiny seems to be up on that topic since he brought it into the conversation.

LOL at Praising Cain!:laugh2:
 
Reba said:
No, I don't. I'm not a mind reader.

If you either don't know, or refuse to name them, then just say so.

I really don't understand why you are so contrary to every polite request.


To you.
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Those that attempt to discredit a victim to distract attention from the accused's guilt. Let's see, they could be defense attorneys, political campaign managers, PR men, or just your average sexist. Take your choice.
 
saywhatkid said:
Compared to how the Right Wing views the women making these allegations of Cain's sexual misconduct, using the race card does not feel like anything more than a puff of wind in Kansas.
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Alleged...nothing's been proven at all. Plus, based on a lie detector, Cain's telling the truth while Bialek...tsk tsk...
 
So....Cain hired a high powered defamation attorney BEFORE Bialik even made her statement:

Atlanta attorney Lin Wood told Reuters Thursday he was not hired to scare, intimidate or threaten anyone from making statements, but to monitor the accusations against Cain and respond accordingly.

Wood, a top libel and defamation lawyer, was hired on Monday morning when it became clear that Sharon Bialek was about to become the first of four women alleging inappropriate behavior by Cain to go public with her accusations.

Cain defamation lawyer hired to monitor accusations | Reuters

Do I smell fear?
 
jillio said:
Those that attempt to discredit a victim to distract attention from the accused's guilt. Let's see, they could be defense attorneys, political campaign managers, PR men, or just your average sexist. Take your choice.
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*shrug* We have no way of determining who is the victim at this point. In fact if it turns out the allegations are false and this was nothing more than a smear campaign, it would be you that is attempting to discredit the victim. :cool2:
 
jillio said:
Those that attempt to discredit a victim to distract attention from the accused's guilt. Let's see, they could be defense attorneys, political campaign managers, PR men, or just your average sexist. Take your choice.
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Thank you. :)

Until accused persons are proven guilty, the above attempt to discredit the testimony of alleged victims. They wouldn't dare try to blame an alleged victim because that would be an admission that something happened.
 
saywhatkid said:
Compared to how the Right Wing views the women making these allegations of Cain's sexual misconduct, using the race card does not feel like anything more than a puff of wind in Kansas.
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kokonut said:
Alleged...nothing's been proven at all. Plus, based on a lie detector, Cain's telling the truth while Bialek...tsk tsk...
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I did say "alleged" in my post. I am also waiting for this to shake out before making a decision on his guilt or innocence. I am not going to praise his honesty any more than I would condemn his misconduct, because neither has been proven, but both are being questioned by various sources. Did he or didn't he? Calling 5 women all liars instead of one man seems a bit of a stretch, but I am trying.
 
Reba said:
Thank you. :)

Until accused persons are proven guilty, the above attempt to discredit the testimony of alleged victims. They wouldn't dare try to blame an alleged victim because that would be an admission that something happened.
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Exactly, I don't know why that is so difficult for some to understand.
 
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