Do you support abortion as

[LuciaDisturbed]

Anti abortion fine. I also prochoice.

You make absolutely no sense, Meggie.

Again, pro-choice = support abortion!

How many times do we gotta explain it to you? :roll:

 

[Oceanbreeze]

***Walks in****

God, there's alot of blood here. Hey! Clean up on aisle three, and watch your step! Floor's slippery. Some people have split their forehead's open!



You people watch where you bleed! Jeez....

***Walks out***

LOL

 

[jillio]

That's not what I said.

Again for the third time, This thread is not about death penalty, This thread is about abortion and I refuse to lowed myself to your level of lack of respect to the creator of this thread.

On this thread is asked "Do you support abortion as legal or illegal" not "Are you pro life or pro choice"

You said that you supported abortion in the case of the woman's life being at risk. That would mean that she could choose to have the abortion and reduce the risk to her own life, or to carry through with the pregnancy and risk her life. She has made the choice based on the available options..to abort or not to abort. What part of that are you having difficulty understanding?

And you say you believe that abortion should be illegal, but then go on to say that a woman should have the choice in the instance that her life or the baby's life is at risk. Can't have it both ways Cheri.

And, you claim pro-life affiliation. Therefore, the death penalty and other variables can be introduced to point out the inconsistencies in your claims.

I do not disrespect the creator of this thread. If Leibling feels that I have been disrespectful toward her that is something she can address with me. That would be an issue that concerns the 2 of us. You would not be involved in that in any way, shape, or form. Like I told you earlier, Leibling is perfectly capable of speaking for herself. Just as a woman seeking an abortion does not need you to speak for them. Quite pompous of you to believe that you need to speak out for all.

 

[jillio]

You make absolutely no sense, Meggie.

Again, pro-choice = support abortion!

How many times do we gotta explain it to you? :roll:

Its useless.

 

[jillio]

***Walks in****

God, there's alot of blood here. Hey! Clean up on aisle three, and watch your step! Floor's slippery. Some people have split their forehead's open!



You people watch where you bleed! Jeez....

***Walks out***

LOL

LOL!

 

[Cheri]

You said that you supported abortion in the case of the woman's life being at risk. That would mean that she could choose to have the abortion and reduce the risk to her own life, or to carry through with the pregnancy and risk her life. She has made the choice based on the available options..to abort or not to abort. What part of that are you having difficulty understanding?

Who would be willing to die in order to carry the pregnancy to full terms, Do you know anyone who had done it or would? I haven't. You are having trouble understanding the life threatening condition.

 

[LuciaDisturbed]

Its useless.

You're right, Jillio. It's useless.

 

[jillio]

Who would be willing to die in order to carry the pregnancy to full terms, Do you know anyone who had done it or would? I haven't. You are having trouble understanding the life threatening condition.

How is it that you know that there aren't women out there who would be willing to risk their own health to carry a preganancy to term. I know of a woman currently who has been diagnosed with cervical cancer, and is also 4 months pregnant. The doctors recommended an a abortion so that they could treat the cancer. She opted to not have the abortion, and to risk having the cancer metastisize in order to carry the pregnancy to term, even though doing so has the risk of loosing her life to a disease that could be treated.

I am not having trouble understanding anything Cheri. We are talking about freedom to choose, either way. I have just provided you with an example of a woman who has exercised her right to choose. And whether anyone agrees with her choice or not is not the issue. The issue is that she has the right to make these decisons for herself.

 

[Chase]

Please understand that although the religious / anti-religious debate thread is closed for the time being, mention of religions or atheism is not forbidden, as long as it is moderate and on topic.

If anyone has problems with content of a thread, please notify moderators.

Please stay on topic, and please remain civil.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Please understand that although the religious / anti-religious debate thread is closed for the time being, mention of religions or atheism is not forbidden, as long as it is moderate and on topic.

If anyone has problems with content of a thread, please notify moderators.

Please stay on topic, and please remain civil.

OK, will do.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Who would be willing to die in order to carry the pregnancy to full terms, Do you know anyone who had done it or would? I haven't. You are having trouble understanding the life threatening condition.

The fact from reading the magazine at few months ago and share the story what I read at other abortion debate thread.

Liebling
Let me tell you the story what I read the magazine about Rominan learn that she had a bladder cancer and decide to not abort her fetus. She thought she would beat cancer after birth. Unfortunlately not, she died several days later after gave birth to a daughter. Sadly is she decide for scarifice her life to keep her fetus alive over her famliy (she had a husband and 2 small children). I would not risk my life for to save fetus to leave my family heartbreaking.

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Religion and Abortion

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Religion and Abortion


I would say that it´s rare to decide to save fetus´s life before mother´s risk life.

That ADer, I debate with is a true anti-abortion/pro-lifer. He consider it as a murder if mother decide to save her own life over her fetus´s life. He and Meggy2 are the one who are true pro-lifer who beleives in save fetus´s life first before mother´s risk life. Romanin lady died because she choose to save fetus´s life over herself. She is a true pro-lifer.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I dont support abortion means that i am prochoice

*sigh* You did not answer my questions... Again...

You said that you don´t support abortion and beleive in save fetus´s life before mother´s risk life. You said in previous post that C-Section is the best solution to save mother´s risk life. Right?

If my answer is right then you are a pro-lifer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Cheri
Liebling, Of course it's their decision and they have that access rights. But, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it nor support it.

Ah, but you agree that it is their right to decide for themselves. That would make you pro-choice.

Cheri, I am sorry to say that Jillio is correct...

Yes you are a pro choice because you respect women´s decision when you personally disagree nor support it. I first thought the same as you that I am a pro-life until I learn what pro-life and pro-choice is about... I personally would not abort for no reasons but I respect women´s choice, that´s make me a pro-choice.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Cheri, I am sorry to say that Jillio is correct...

Yes you are a pro choice because you respect women´s decision when you personally disagree nor support it. I first thought the same as you that I am a pro-life until I learn what pro-life and pro-choice is about... I personally would not abort for no reasons but I respect women´s choice, that´s make me a pro-choice.

This is correct. Personally, I would not choose to have an abortion, unless my life was at stake, or I was raped. However, I support a woman's right to make that decision for herself. Therefore, I am pro-choice.

Any time, you say you support respect a woman's decision to make the choice for herself, you are pro-choice.

 

[IslandGal]

Wish there is a word in between life and choice

 

[CrzyMeg]

Pro life. yes I am....

 

[Cheri]

Cheri, I am sorry to say that Jillio is correct...

That's your opinion.

Yes you are a pro choice because you respect women´s decision when you personally disagree nor support it. I first thought the same as you that I am a pro-life until I learn what pro-life and pro-choice is about... I personally would not abort for no reasons but I respect women´s choice, that´s make me a pro-choice.

I do not respect women's choice nor her decision on abortion for no good reasons. I never claim to even say that I do. Pro-lifers supports life at risk. I'm sorry, but you do not have a clue what pro-lifers supports. I'll provide as many source to show you what pro-life supports.

Some oppose most abortions but make exception for cases where the woman's life is in serious risk.

Others make exceptions when the pregnancy was not caused by consensual sexual activity or may violate social taboos, as in cases of rape and incest. Some allow for all these exceptions, but stop short of abortion-on-demand.

Pro-life advocates typically argue that if a pregnant woman is unable or unwilling to raise the child, there is the option of placing the child up for adoption.

some pro-life people based on a belief that all human life is sacred and must be protected even against the wishes of people who want to end their own lives.

Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If, however, there is a high probability that a woman's pregnancy will result in her death (as in the case of a tubal pregnancy, for example), then abortion is justified. For it is a greater good that one human should live (the mother) rather than two die (the mother and her child)

What is "pro-life"? Is it possible to be both pro-life and pro-choice? - ChristianAnswers.Net

The prolife movement believes that any act that violates the sanctity of human life is morally wrong and seeks legal steps to declare such acts as illegal. The movement calls for respect for every form of human life, whether it is an unborn child, a crippled or disable person, elderly people, or the terminally ill.

The prolife movement is opposite to the pro-choice movement that advocates that every human being should have the freedom to choose on all aspects of their life, including abortion.

What Is Prolife? - Blurtit

The Pro-Life movement supports: the unborn, the disabled, the elderly, the terminally ill

What is Pro-Life

 

[LuciaDisturbed]

Pro life. yes I am....

Finally you got it right!

 

[Reba]

Originally Posted by Cheri
Everyone has a choice of their own, each person has a free will. What does pro-choice have anything to do with it?

"Of course it's their decision and they have that access rights. But, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it nor support it."

Do you even know what you believe? If everyone has free will and a choice to make, and you support their right to make that choice, it makes you pro-choice....

That's not the way I read it.

Just because Cheri acknowledges that women will make decisions regardless of what the law is, doesn't mean that she supports laws that allow abortion on demand. It also doesn't mean that people who have free will to make choices will make choices that follow the law of the land.

Acknowledging free will, and supporting abortion on demand laws, are not the same thing.

People have free will to make all kinds of wrong choices but that doesn't mean we support laws that allow them to make those wrong choices. People have free will to drive drunk but we don't support laws that allow them drive drunk.

 

[Cheri]

Reba, I'm so glad there's someone that really understands me.