Another, "I didn't do it!"

[TXgolfer]

Post 291

Charges were filed, settlement was paid, others have collaborated, and his reaction certainly does not say, "innocent".

 

[jillio]

That is exactly what I have been saying - but you, of all people, got it down to a simple sentence.

Why, Bott, of all people? That's pretty insulting.

And keep in mind, it is FIVE someones, two of whom have documented proof of the complaints.

There is also evidence of Bialek and Cain being seen together at a Tea Party less than 2 months ago. Yet he denied even knowing her.:roll:

 

[jillio]

Post 291

I didn't say "formal charges". A formal complaint contains charges.:roll:

Okay, in the second one I said formal charges. Doesn't matter one iota, but nice attempt at trying to deflect from the actual issue. Typical.

 

[Jiro]

this is still going on?

 

[jillio]

this is still going on?

Yeah. Steiny and TxGolfer are still insisting that the women come forward and give all the lurid details as some form of proof. Hanging on to the pizza man's innocence with all they have in them. It is really kind of sad to watch.

 

[Steinhauer]

Yeah. Steiny and TxGolfer are still insisting that the women come forward and give all the lurid details as some form of proof. Hanging on to the pizza man's innocence with all they have in them. It is really kind of sad to watch.

What is heart breaking to watch is that you would rather drag a man through the gutter than have all the details first.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...-detector-test-to-rebut-sharon-bialek-claims/

Janine Driver already stated that Bialeck was lying.

Now - to translate that into terms you can understand - another woman said Bialeck was lying.

 

[jillio]

What is heart breaking to watch is that you would rather drag a man through the gutter than have all the details first.

I'm not dragging a man through the gutter. He has managed to place himself there without a bit of help from me.

And yet, you would drag 5 women through the gutter without a bit of proof that they are not being honest.:roll:

 

[TXgolfer]

I didn't say "formal charges". A formal complaint contains charges.:roll:

Okay, in the second one I said formal charges. Doesn't matter one iota, but nice attempt at trying to deflect from the actual issue. Typical.

Post 99

Two women brought charges legally. Those two women were given a settlement. The third did not bring legal charges, but is now saying that she, as well, was sexually harrassed.

It matters a bunch. Goes to credibility.

 

[jillio]

What is heart breaking to watch is that you would rather drag a man through the gutter than have all the details first.

Herman Cain: I'd take lie detector test to rebut Sharon Bialek claims - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Janine Driver already stated that Bialeck was lying.

Now - to translate that into terms you can understand - another woman said Bialeck was lying.

I see you edited again. You seem to have a propensity for doing that.

Janine Driver was giving an opinion, not proof of anything. Just an opinion. Nothing more.

 

[Steinhauer]

I see you edited again. You seem to have a propensity for doing that.

Janine Driver was giving an opinion, not proof of anything. Just an opinion. Nothing more.

A professional opinion backed by years of consulting to the CIA, FBI, Law Enforcement Agencies, Judges, Fortune 500 companies ....

again - goes to credibility.

 

[jillio]

Post 99



It matters a bunch. Goes to credibility.

Yeah, you are big on attacking other people's credibility. All women, I might add. And all because Cain has destroyed his own.

 

[jillio]

A professional opinion backed by years of consulting to the CIA, FBI, Law Enforcement Agencies, Judges, Fortune 500 companies ....

again - goes to credibility.

Goes to nothing. Just an opinion, nothing more. Do you know what the stats are on CIA and FBI profiling? I wouldn't be pulling that out as an indication of expertise! LOL

 

[TXgolfer]

Yeah, you are big on attacking other people's credibility. All women, I might add. And all because Cain has destroyed his own.

You also said there was a lawsuit filed in post 50

They filed the lawsuit at the time it happened and were paid

Yet your link above says it was internal. This is why we ask for sources when you make claims

 

[jillio]

Actually, if the attorney is representing what his client's views are, he cannot get disbarred for lying.

and ... attorneys have a reputation for .... lying. Not all of course ...

And to be very frank, open and honest - whether it was a "settlement" or a "severance" is not defined by his client. It is defined by the National Restaurant Association. If there was actually a court case with a file number and the case was settled instead of going to court, then it would be considered a settlement.

Another edit. Why don't you think these things all the way through before you hit submit.

You are absolutely incorrect. You might want to read the attorney's words. It does not have to be filed in court to be a settlement. Insurance companies pay settlements all the time to keep from having court cases filed.:roll:

 

[jillio]

You also said there was a lawsuit filed in post 50


Yet your link above says it was internal. This is why we ask for sources when you make claims

Wow! You really are on a mission of deflection here, aren't you?

Fact: 5 women have accused Cain of sexual harrassment in the last 14 years. Two of them have formal documentation of both the charges and the settlement details. One of them has made a public statement releasing details. He has lied about even knowing the women, and then claimed "vague memories". He finally had to admit to knowing that the complaints were filed and settlements were paid. Still claimed not to know Bialek. Evidence of him seen talking to her at a Tea Pary event less than 2 months ago.

Address that.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

The difference was that Clinton's affairs were consentual.

Paula Jones would not agree with that!

 

[Steinhauer]

Another edit. Why don't you think these things all the way through before you hit submit.

You are absolutely incorrect. You might want to read the attorney's words. It does not have to be filed in court to be a settlement. Insurance companies pay settlements all the time to keep from having court cases filed.:roll:

If it had any basis, then there would have been formal charges. But, there wasn't.

Then 15 years later .... as Herman Cain is actually seen gaining ground in the primaries ...

edit: Yes, I edit.

 

[jillio]

Paula Jones would not agree with that!

That was a harrassment claim.

 

[jillio]

If it had any basis, then there would have been formal charges. But, there wasn't.

Then 15 years later .... as Herman Cain is actually seen gaining ground in the primaries ...

edit: Yes, I edit.

There you go again, just assuming these women are lying. You are really a piece of work. But hey, keep posting. It is a wonderful opportunity for everyone to see your character.

Gaining ground? You are delusional. His predicability dropped by half!

Yeah, Cain tried that tactic, too. First it was his fellow Repubs, then it was the Democratic machine, wonder who he'll blame tomorrow?

 

[Steinhauer]

There you go again, just assuming these women are lying. You are really a piece of work. But hey, keep posting. It is a wonderful opportunity for everyone to see your character.

Gaining ground? You are delusional. His predicability dropped by half!

Yeah, Cain tried that tactic, too. First it was his fellow Repubs, then it was the Democratic machine, wonder who he'll blame tomorrow?

You are assuming they are telling the truth because they are women. That is the difference. I am assuming ANY (male or female) person is innocent until proven guilty and so far, that hasn't happened.

But if Cain's polls drop, you can sigh a big breath of relief, that big bad pizza guy is no longer a threat to your precious Obama shrine in your kitchen.