Advice please: son doesn't want to wear HAs

posts from hell said:
Everyone can see through that. Again, point made. She had the desire to learn ASL later on, why is that? Why? Tell me the truth!
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You can't handle the truth!!! (Sorry you left yourself wide open for that one!)

Starting to get a little edgy, must be your insecurities surfacing again. I have stated many times how and why she came to learn ASL. Ask yourself why your little friends are not rushing to help you out on this one? You won't like the answer, I can guarantee that. Buddy boy you have been played like a fine violin!

Have a nice day chief! Time for me to go watch Psych!!
 
rick48 said:
You can't handle the truth!!! (Sorry you left yourself wide open for that one!)

Starting to get a little edgy, must be your insecurities surfacing again. I have stated many times how and why she came to learn ASL. Ask yourself why your little friends are not rushing to help you out on this one? You won't like the answer, I can guarantee that. Buddy boy you have been played like a fine violin!

Have a nice day chief! Time for me to go watch Psych!!
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Wow, a bit harsh. Being as this is my first foray into this topic, I find the bitterness and anger to be suffocating any chance of maintaining intelligent conversation. BTW, amazing choice of words: "Played like a fine violin" to a deaf person.

Sorry, I have had my say in this thread. Not ready to get into the battle mode when I appear to be unarmed.
 
rick48 said:
You can't handle the truth!!! (Sorry you left yourself wide open for that one!)

Starting to get a little edgy, must be your insecurities surfacing again. I have stated many times how and why she came to learn ASL. Ask yourself why your little friends are not rushing to help you out on this one? You won't like the answer, I can guarantee that. Buddy boy you have been played like a fine violin!

Have a nice day chief! Time for me to go watch Psych!!
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:roll:
 
Deafguy25 said:
Again, you bring up Clarke. Did you go to school there? Do you work there? Do you often attend their conferences? How are you privy to what they talk about there? Also, you keep saying that kids are transferring from the mainstream to oral deaf schools. This is actually the reverse of what is going on. They serve the majority of their students from birth to 3, and then a percentage go straight to a typical preschool, while other attend the school's preschool. By the time you start first grade, they are serving a much smaller number, and by late elementary 90% have mainstreamed. You are stating the exact opposite, which isn't the case at all.
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*pounds head on wall* I said in the PAST. Until about ten years ago, it was VERY common for kids to struggle and then transfer to Clarke/CID/St. Josephs. That is one of the biggest reasons why they still had viable dorm programs until recently. I know that as recently as 15 years ago, they had 45 kids in the dorm at Clarke! It wasn't b/c parents were sending their little kids to live in the dorms...it's b/c a lot of kids transferred for middle school. Nowadays, if an oral dhh kid starts to struggle in the mainstream, they get sent to their state deaf school or a program where sign is used, instead of going to Clarke/CID/St. Josephs or the other oral schools.
 
saywhatkid said:
Wow, a bit harsh. Being as this is my first foray into this topic, I find the bitterness and anger to be suffocating any chance of maintaining intelligent conversation. BTW, amazing choice of words: "Played like a fine violin" to a deaf person.

Sorry, I have had my say in this thread. Not ready to get into the battle mode when I appear to be unarmed.
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Harsh, not really, but well deserved. You should read a few threads and see how he treats hearing parents of deaf children before passing judgment. Anyway, I have enjoyed your posts and hope you continue to contribute.
Rick
 
rick48 said:
Deafguy25,

Just remember what I told you: she just makes it up as she goes along. Don't go nuts trying to have a rationale conversation with her.
Rick
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Um Rick, I would suggest that you look at the archives of the Volta Voices. I distinctly remember reading an article/interview by the admin of the Clarke School, from the '90s where he CLEARLY stated that they got a TON of students transferring in for middle school.
 
rick48 said:
You can't handle the truth!!! (Sorry you left yourself wide open for that one!)

Starting to get a little edgy, must be your insecurities surfacing again. I have stated many times how and why she came to learn ASL. Ask yourself why your little friends are not rushing to help you out on this one? You won't like the answer, I can guarantee that. Buddy boy you have been played like a fine violin!

Have a nice day chief! Time for me to go watch Psych!!
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lolllll first of all, you are so insignificant that I dont even keep up with what you and your daughter is going through. I don't even know why she knows/learned ASL.

I merely brought it up because in that post you made you completely disregarded it. (which of course puts you in line with the "4".)

That was in what SWK was simply pointing out. Listen to the deaf. Cannot handle that one, eh?
 
deafdyke said:
Um Rick, I would suggest that you look at the archives of the Volta Voices. I distinctly remember reading an article/interview by the admin of the Clarke School, from the '90s where he CLEARLY stated that they got a TON of students transferring in for middle school.
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Why do you care what he says? It wont matter what you say.
 
shel90 said:
Why do you care what he says? It wont matter what you say.
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Because he does not understand at ALL that his daughter's oral deaf mainstream experiance, while very positive was not very typical back then. Rick, if things had been ever so slightly different.....meaning your daughter did not thrive with a minimal accomondation mainstream oral hoh style approach, you would see what we are saying. We're not cricticizing your approach....we're just pointing out that you don't realize that you really lucked out with the fact that your daughter responded well to minimal acocmodnation mainstream approach!
 
deafdyke said:
*pounds head on wall* I said in the PAST. Until about ten years ago, it was VERY common for kids to struggle and then transfer to Clarke/CID/St. Josephs. That is one of the biggest reasons why they still had viable dorm programs until recently. I know that as recently as 15 years ago, they had 45 kids in the dorm at Clarke! It wasn't b/c parents were sending their little kids to live in the dorms...it's b/c a lot of kids transferred for middle school. Nowadays, if an oral dhh kid starts to struggle in the mainstream, they get sent to their state deaf school or a program where sign is used, instead of going to Clarke/CID/St. Josephs or the other oral schools.
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But you still haven't told us where you get the idea that there are "tons" of mainstream kids transferring to Deaf schools. If that was the case, wouldn't our Deaf schools have growing populations, instead of dwindling and closing?

And you still haven't explained about Clarke.
 
posts from hell said:
I pointed that out to him. He didn't like that.
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HA, yes. Rick, all we are saying that if things had been different, like if your daughter had hit the fourth grade ceiling and then gone off to Clarke after dealing with Resource Room teachers who had NO CLUE how to educate a DHH kid, beyond "front row seating, TOD, speech therapy and MAYBE a notetaker" you would be on our side. You just take ANY cricticism of the path your family took as " Oh its the big bad anti oral radical deafies who were anti CI back then attacking us. Get over it....it's been over a DECADE since the 90's ended!
 
deafdyke said:
Um Rick, I would suggest that you look at the archives of the Volta Voices. I distinctly remember reading an article/interview by the admin of the Clarke School, from the '90s where he CLEARLY stated that they got a TON of students transferring in for middle school.
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You are reading Volta Voices from the 90's to get your information? Now I'm really confused! :shock:
 
Deafguy25 said:
You are reading Volta Voices from the 90's to get your information? Now I'm really confused! :shock:
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People who fail to learn from the mistakes of the past.....

Why do you have so much trouble understanding?
 
deafdyke said:
Because he does not understand at ALL that his daughter's oral deaf mainstream experiance, while very positive was not very typical back then. Rick, if things had been ever so slightly different.....meaning your daughter did not thrive with a minimal accomondation mainstream oral hoh style approach, you would see what we are saying. We're not cricticizing your approach....we're just pointing out that you don't realize that you really lucked out with the fact that your daughter responded well to minimal acocmodnation mainstream approach!
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The thing is we have told him that for the past 4 or 5 years. He doesnt want to hear it so let him be.
 
deafdyke said:
Because he does not understand at ALL that his daughter's oral deaf mainstream experiance, while very positive was not very typical back then. Rick, if things had been ever so slightly different.....meaning your daughter did not thrive with a minimal accomondation mainstream oral hoh style approach, you would see what we are saying. We're not cricticizing your approach....we're just pointing out that you don't realize that you really lucked out with the fact that your daughter responded well to minimal acocmodnation mainstream approach!
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Luck? You don't think it had anything to do with devoted parents, early intervention, and the technology that allowed her access to sound at a very young age?
 
Deafguy25 said:
But you still haven't told us where you get the idea that there are "tons" of mainstream kids transferring to Deaf schools. If that was the case, wouldn't our Deaf schools have growing populations, instead of dwindling and closing?

And you still haven't explained about Clarke.
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Closings arent just because dwindling numbers...the economy stinks right now.


Dwindling numbers...because there are no more people becoming deaf from the German measles.
 
shel90 said:
Closings arent just because dwindling numbers...the economy stinks right now.


Dwindling numbers...because there are no more people becoming deaf from the German measles.
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You work at a Deaf school, right? What is the approximate enrollment at the school? How many transfers do you get each year?
 
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