Violent game law falls in Supreme Court

StSapphire said:
...Yes.
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You say yes, and Foxrac says no. Which is it?

Does it actually prevent minors from buying the games in retail stores?
 
StSapphire said:
I've not seen anything showing that making sexual contents of media no longer illegal to purchase or own by minors in any way increases child abuse, sexual deviancy (unless you think dirty things like blowjobs are "deviant"), or any of the other bogeymen mentioned.

As I've pointed out, self-regulation certainly can work. It doesn't have to be government enforced.



I'm in favor of keeping forms of media self-regulated, as they are. I don't see the need for increased government regulation, which eventually leads to crap like the FCC who slaps million dollar fines on TV stations when they let a character say "fuck" or something else stupid like that.

So to clarify, no, I don't especially think young children should be purchasing M-rated video games, R-rated movies, or anything similar to that. But at the same time, I don't think the government needs to step in to regulate it, especially when the primary reason the government regulations are being created is because of the medium, rather than the content. If the proponents of this law equally tried to force the government to regulate the sale of books, movies, magazines, music, etc, then I'd still oppose it, but for different reasons. This law was for the purpose of treating video games inherently differently from other forms of media.



Because "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN" isn't a persuasive argument, especially when you don't give a valid reason as to how it's harming children. A couple of news stories about crazy people isn't a valid reason, either.

I agree that sex isn't necessarily what porn shows, just as much as I agree that love isn't what Disney shows and people aren't what reality TV shows.
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Well thank goodness that it is regulated by the government because distributing porn to a minor is illegal in the state of Florida and should be for all states.

Having children watch porn is damaging to them. It gives them a twisted idea of what sex is suppose to about.


How Pornography Harms Children
 
Reba said:
You say yes, and Foxrac says no. Which is it?

Does it actually prevent minors from buying the games in retail stores?
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My point as well. Why rate something as "Mature" if it is sold to anyone?
 
StSapphire said:
...my point was that you'd come out of it with the child handing you back your $50 because Target wouldn't sell the game to them. Way to miss the point.
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Sorry, we don't agree. I remain unconvinced.
 
One of my girl gamers (mother of two kids) in steam community. She played well with Left 4 Dead game as too violent game like I blew zombies' head off, blood graphic too much, etc and then, She allowed her kid(s) play L4D game. I said like oh-uh, It's not good for kids as her son is 8 yrs old. =/
 
Killing zombies is different than killing humans in video games. If it doesn't affect your kid then it won't. It doesn't affect me to kill people in real life because I awcknowledge it is only video game, none of these is real. Same as dreams.
 
My son is 16 and I admit to having allowed him to play some "M" rated games. Main thing for me is, the XBox 360 is in the living room and someone is always there with him. Also, he takes regular breaks and talks about how fake it all is. He is very careful about what games he gets and finds that if it's too violent or whatever, he will return it. That's why we get used games from GameStop only. We have been totally open and honest with my kids and they know what is expected of them. I trust them to make the right decisions. Son used to have problems with nightmares when he was little, but he got those from G and PG rated shows. Now, if he has a bad night, it's usually due to the heat or a headache. His eyes are getting worse again. He has 1 or 2 games right now that are a little bloody, but it's so fake looking that after my initial shock, it did not bother me. What you see in R rated and some PG-13 movies is much worse.
 
I started play GTA (Grand Theft Auto) when I was 10 years old and it did means that I'm bad kid? Not really, it doesn't affect my behavior because it is just game and they are not real. I had watch a lot of bad movies when I was kid, especially Friday the 13th in early 1990s.

It is ok for kids to play violent games but you have to watch their behavior if it does change or not.
 
Reba said:
You say yes, and Foxrac says no. Which is it?

Does it actually prevent minors from buying the games in retail stores?
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We have a different definition to answer so for your question, the answer is yes.

Almost all stores have their policies about sell to minors.
 
At GameStop for my son, they do make sure I give permission for the purchase of an "M" rated game. There have been a few instances where they will pull me aside and let me know that a certain game he wants is more hard core and I will question son about it. Then the employees will allow him to see parts of the game in action and most times when they do that, son will opt to not get it.
 
I can't force to parents but if supposed up to choice parents decide handle wise, I can't do thing nothing serious because supposed if up to parents decision!
 
Speaking of self-regulation, it does include active enforcement by ordinary people.
Case to point, I went to an last-show-of-the-day movie and knew the rating was "R". On entering the seating area, the light were still on before the beginning. My ex and I notice two minors sitting across the theater from us. I immediately went to the box office and ask for the manager. It was a woman and she followed me back to let me point out the minors. Of course, she removed them BUT the kicker is that while she was speaking to them about their IDs, six other minors walked out. Then a usher was station at the door. It is called being pro-active and required of all of us. Why is it if you see a rape you inform the cops but in the situation above you won't get involved? YOU are the government!!
 
New violent game is coming soon. It called "Dead Island" game. Not good for kids

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwtr_-4vz6g]YouTube - ‪Dead Island: Official Trailer in Reverse Order (Chronological)‬‏[/ame]

blood spatter graphic (headshot, behead, etc)
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p8kGRM0Nis]YouTube - ‪Dead Island E3 Exclusive 2011 Trailer [HD]‬‏[/ame]
 
saywhatkid said:
Sorry, we don't agree. I remain unconvinced.
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What would convince you? I showed you a study done by the FTC that showed that kids were less likely able to buy a copy of GTA than they were an R-rated DVD from Target. Of course it's not going to be 100% reliable (it's not even that for cigarettes and alcohol, and those are far more dangerous) because you're buying from people. If no evidence will convince you, then this whole thing is pointless.

Banjo said:
It is up to the parents.
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Once you make it against the law, it is no longer up to the parents, it's up to the government, then.

Grummer said:
any one remembers Postal 2?
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No, nobody except Fox News does because it's an old anti-video-game bogeyman that barely sold and that hardly anyone played. Hardly a fair representative of M-rated games. Call of Duty or Halo would be far more typical of an M-rated game.
 
Reba said:
You say yes, and Foxrac says no. Which is it?

Does it actually prevent minors from buying the games in retail stores?
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Retail stores self-regulate with practically every retailer who carried video games enforcing the ratings (at least to the same degree or better than movie ratings are enforced). It isn't illegal or anything similar to sell against the rating, but for all intents and purposes, it's fairly likely to prevent a minor from walking in to Target and picking up a copy on their own.
 
Steel X said:
and I am looking forward to that game. :)
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When you buy that game and read label.

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before you buy that pack of cigs. read the label........
before you buy the booze read the label.......
Now how many of you are with me?
before you have that baby read the label!!!!
 
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