Jack Kevorkian a.k.a Dr Death has died.

Reba said:
Apparently he did feel the need to say something since he did say something about his pictures.
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Probably because he was being badgered by others that wanted an explanation. The need was no doubt more of getting the questions to stop than a need to explain his creativity.
 
Glenn said:
Yes, and is what is also known as "show, don't tell." Why tell everyone what it is supposed to signify? That would be taking a serious shortcut and do both the artist and the viewer a disservice. Things need to be considered and a conclusion arrived at after that careful consideration.
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For whatever reason, Kevorkian did decide to tell what the pictures meant to him.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
It WAS hard. But, this also is what it means to walk the walk; as well as talk the talk. I have been saying what I believe about palliative care for quite awhile now. All that was put to the test last year when I witnessed my signature on his Living Will.

This occured right before his colon resection shortly after we found out he had cancer ( which we later learned was in stage 3). With all his illnesses combined, he's quite ill, so the LW was necessary. My parents needed a witness and I happen to be available. I didn't know what I was signing until I saw (and read) the document. I'll admit that I was in a bit of shock once I signed it. But, that was such a crazy day, anyway. Dad was having cancer surgery with a blocked heart artery and severe lung disease. We honestly weren't sure if he'd make it off the table.
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Being congruent is often the hardest thing to do.
 
jillio said:
Probably because he was being badgered by others that wanted an explanation. The need was no doubt more of getting the questions to stop than a need to explain his creativity.
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That would indeed be against character and odd of him to surrender to badgering about his pictures (if that was true), yet he withstood a lot more criticism and prison time as "Dr. Death."
 
Reba said:
That would indeed be against character and odd of him to surrender to badgering about his pictures (if that was true), yet he withstood a lot more criticism and prison time as "Dr. Death."
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How would it be against character? I don't see it as so at all. We all have different importance levels to our beliefs and our actions.

Dr. Death.:laugh2: Yeah, the media really played of that one in attempting to manipulate emotions, didn't they?
 
Reba said:
It's called a statement of fact.
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The grass is green is a statement of fact, as well. However, it has no bearing on the issue of assisted suicide, so there is really no reason to make it.
 
jillio said:
The grass is green is a statement of fact, as well. However, it has no bearing on the issue of assisted suicide, so there is really no reason to make it.
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I can take a hint. My posts don't meet your criteria, so I'll move on. :iough:
 
Thinking pessImism probably would seem like realism to a pessimist.... :dunno:
 
It's more complicated than that. He was acquitted way more often than he was convicted. Clearly various judges along the way had some sympathy for his position, and/or for the patients, and/or found the law against assisted suicide unconstitutional. He provided assisted suicide for more than 100 people. He was only found guilty for the final one, and even that was NOT for assisted suicide. That charge was dropped. He was convicted of second-degree murder and delivery of a controlled substance.

Interestingly, he promised to starve himself to death if sent to jail. Clearly he changed his mind about that.

Here's the timeline up to 1999, if you're interested:

Chronology | The Kevorkian Verdict | FRONTLINE | PBS

(Slips, this was in reponse to the idea that jury didn't even consider the wishes of the patient.)
 
jillio said:
Being congruent is often the hardest thing to do.
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It also was an easy thing to do; as weird as that may sound. It was easy because it was what HE wanted. As his daughter, it was NOT up to me to argue with him. We were going into the unknown, so the LW was assurance that if something went wrong, he would leave this world as gently as possible.

In all honesty, it's a bit more messy now. He's terminally ill, but stable at the moment. He hasn't reached the point of needing hospise, but he will at some point. So, we're facing this by simply taking things day by day. We're also thankful that he is still is as active as he is. We also don't look to the future all that much (at least, I don't). I live in the moment. I live in the here and now. If I didn't, I think I would have lost my mind already.

I've said this before, but, unless you're experiencing life with a loved one with a terminal illness (or 2 or 3), you really don't have a clue what it's like.
 
Beach girl said:
It's more complicated than that. He was acquitted way more often than he was convicted. Clearly various judges along the way had some sympathy for his position, and/or for the patients, and/or found the law against assisted suicide unconstituional. He provided assisted suicide for more than 100 people. He was only found guilty for the final one, and even that was NOT for assisted suicide. That charge was dropped. He was convicted of second-degree murder and delivery of a controlled substance.

Interestingly, he promised to starve himself to death if sent to jail. Clearly he changed his mind about that.

Here's the timeline up to 1999, if you're interested:

Chronology | The Kevorkian Verdict | FRONTLINE | PBS

(Slips, this was in reponse to the idea that jury didn't even consider the wishes of the patient.)
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Whether or not the patient "needed to die" is still not something that was addressed in the court case, or by the jurors. What was addressed was Kervorkian's actions.

He was force fed.
 
jillio said:
Whether or not the patient "needed to die" is still not something that was addressed in the court case, or by the jurors. What was addressed was Kervorkian's actions.

He was force fed.
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I have to say I'm impressed because starving is one of the more painful ways to go.
 
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