Those who decide not to get a CI

deafbajagal said:
And not all children will learn to speak, even with every resource and support available to them. Some children are simply not wired for it. No one knows why. It's one of the unsolved mysteries that are baffling experts.
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Maybe it's also a question of what goes on in the home? That to some extent it's also a question of "we are what we repeatedly do?".
 
HHIssues said:
There's a difference between being able to speak a few words or sentences in a straightforward sense or when you and the other person you might also know well are also talking about a familiar topic on hand and actually having a long, flowingly conversation.

Are you saying your speech is actually good enough to let's say, be an announcer on the News or something?
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My speech isnt important and I dont give a flying f*** about being a news announcer. I dont stress about that kind of thing. :lol:
 
HHIssues said:
There's a difference between being able to speak a few words or sentences in a straightforward sense or when you and the other person you might also know well are also talking about a familiar topic on hand and actually having a long, flowingly conversation.

Are you saying your speech is actually good enough to let's say, be an announcer on the News or something?
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???

That's like saying, "Are you agile enough to be the next Jackie Chan?"

And also, how is your speech being good enough to be on the News make you have good conversation skills? It is still a one way conversation. That wonderful speaking deaf announcer can still not be able to listen or lipread for jack squat.
 
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iavswn said:
“Deaf people can do anything, except hear.”- I. King Jordan
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I almost think that the statement is beginning to become a little outdated. That with the advances going on in the science, technological or medical field these days it's kind becoming more along the lines of "Deaf people can do anything and also hear better."
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Nope. There ppeople who can do anything without hearing
 
As commented in another thread- how some "deaf" people can "hear" which from my direct experience of being deaf-almost 4 years-doesn't happen to me. Just silence when implant disconnected. Secret info in Google?

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drphil said:
As commented in another thread- how some "deaf" people can "hear" which from my direct experience of being deaf-almost 4 years-doesn't happen to me. Just silence when implant disconnected. Secret info in Google?
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Maybe because there are different degrees of deafness? :dunno:
 
deafgal001 said:
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Nope. There people who can do anything without hearing
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Technology has enabled people with hearing loss to hear better and so the old but tired and worn quote, "Deaf people can do anything except hear," brings about a misconception that deaf people are unable to hear. That is false. Certainly not hear exactly like a hearing person but nonetheless can hear and function very well with the help of a hearing aid or cochlear implant.
 
Of course a deaf person can "hear" with a hearing aid or Cochlear Implant-that is why they have it. The question should be-can a deaf "hear" without a helping device? Is it accurate to define one as deaf who can "hear" somewhat? Is this an exercise in semantics?

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drphil said:
Of course a deaf person can "hear" with a hearing aid or Cochlear Implant-that is why they have it. The question should be-can a deaf "hear" without a helping device? Is it accurate to define one as deaf who can "hear" somewhat? Is this an exercise in semantics?

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I think Deaf Olympics allow for a 60db loss. That is there definition of deaf. So yes partly semantic.
 
drphil said:
Of course a deaf person can "hear" with a hearing aid or Cochlear Implant-that is why they have it. The question should be-can a deaf "hear" without a helping device? Is it accurate to define one as deaf who can "hear" somewhat? Is this an exercise in semantics?
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I consider myself deaf when not wearing my HAs, but I can still hear some. I usually tell my daughter to "talk to the ear" to remind her she needs to be close to my "good" ear for me to hear/understand her when I'm not wearing my HAs. I also say "I'm going deaf" when I take my HA out (to scratch my ear) if I'm with someone who might try talking to me while the HA is not in my ear. Again, I believe there are different degrees of deafness and no two deaf people are alike in their deafness (generally speaking).
 
kokonut said:
Technology has enabled people with hearing loss to hear better and so the old but tired and worn quote, "Deaf people can do anything except hear," brings about a misconception that deaf people are unable to hear. That is false. Certainly not hear exactly like a hearing person but nonetheless can hear and function very well with the help of a hearing aid or cochlear implant.
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doesn't bother me.
 
Deaf/hh people can (have the ability to) hear. So, that quote is factually wrong.
 
souggy said:
I am sure the reason why people opted for CI is to pursue their dream job of being a telephone operator.
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There are many reasons on wanting to hear with a CI. There are more late deafened who get their CIs than those born with a hearing loss if you didn't know.
 
In my opinion, I think people are taking that quote "Deaf people can do anything but hear" tooo literally.

King Jordan's meaning is that despite not being able to hear, deaf people are capable of doing a lot and the hidden message is "do not judge one's ability based on one's hearing."
 
shel90 said:
In my opinion, I think people are taking that quote "Deaf people can do anything but hear" tooo literally.

King Jordan's meaning is that despite not being able to hear, deaf people are capable of doing a lot and the hidden message is "do not judge one's ability based on one's hearing."
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I see it as doing it just as well as a hearing person, including the use of their hearing to do the job. That quote is a statement saying that one cannot do a job when hearing is required. Not everyone can do it but certainly many of us can do just as well.
 
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