2010 Election Results

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Steinhauer said:
Yes, the British still have that view of King George III. Some still call Americans "the colonists".
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Did you read up on the history of the English Parliament and how they restricted the monarch's authority over the course of 500 years between 13th century and 18th century?
 
Jiro said:
so George Washington was a dictator? a ruler? a tyrant?
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He was an elected official by the people for the people. The US Constitution clearly states that the president is subordinate to the will of the people.

Understand?

The president is strictly forbidden to force his will on the people.
 
souggy said:
Did you read up on the history of the English Parliament and how they restricted the monarch's authority over the course of 500 years between 13th century and 18th century?
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500 years is too long :giggle:

The People got impatient.
 
Oh, I didn't know the People got time-travelling devices and threw themselves back into the 1100s under King Henry the First.
 
Jiro said:
If there were never cavemen, the humanity would never have existed.
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The Roman system of government is what the United Kingdom based their model on.

So did the U.S.
 
Steinhauer said:
He was an elected official by the people for the people. The US Constitution clearly states that the president is subordinate to the will of the people.

Understand?

The president is strictly forbidden to force his will on the people.
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How does Obama force on the people?
 
Steinhauer said:
He was an elected official by the people for the people.

The US Constitution clearly states that the president is subordinate to the will of the people.

Understand?

The president is strictly forbidden to force his will on the people.
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um...... not exactly. You might want to brush up on how the POTUS is elected. hint - Electoral College.
 
Steinhauer said:
The Roman system of government is what the United Kingdom based their model on.

So did the U.S.
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Not quite.

It's true, the Roman Republic was the forerunner of various modern democracies, but it's quite errenous to say the American model is based on the Roman. It happens in sequences. For instance, if males who didn't own land never never demanded their rights, then women would had not demanded theirs as well decades later because otherwise the voting rights would still be restricted to landowners.
 
Jiro said:
:lol: I like how you outshine this as a "Republican victory." Let's face it - you were expecting a huge turn-out at both levels - Senate and House..... and to your shocking disappointment.... Republican only achieved at the lowest level.... House.

feels bad, man. Republican's "polarizing" theme makes me laugh. They'll have to come up with something better than pretty faces and catchy conundrum.
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Umm.... GOP won senate races 24-11 with 2 left to be decided. Even 24-13 is a wipe out.

There was a 16 seat differential......now it appears there will be a 4 seat difference. That means the GOP made up 75% of the ground with only 37% of the seats contested.....Again wipe out.
 
souggy said:
Not quite.

It's true, the Roman Republic was the forerunner of various modern democracies, but it's quite errenous to say the American model is based on the Roman. It happens in sequences. For instance, if males who don't own land never never demanded their rights, then women would had not demanded theirs as well decades later.
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The 14th amendment was not discussed in the Roman Senate.

However, with the way Healthcare was passed ..... it reminds me of the Roman Senate.
 
TXgolfer said:
Umm.... GOP won senate races 24-11 with 2 left to be decided. Even 24-13 is a wipe out.

There was a 16 seat differential......now it appears there will be a 4 seat difference. That means the GOP made up 75% of the ground with only 37% of the seats contested.....Again wipe out.
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yes, I told him that already. I assumed he wouldn't listen either.
 
Ah, but to become a Roman citizen is not the same as becoming a 18th century American citizen.

Something have to happen first in the Middle Ages before the concept of American citizenship existed. Just like how transferring voting power from landowners to non-landowners have to occur before universal rights were granted. So which bring us back to the original point:

The concept of the Rights of Englishmen would have to exist before the American Revolution occur, and the Rights of Englishmen was a series of traditions established by the precedents set forward by the Parliament.
 
Steinhauer said:
The 14th amendment was not discussed in the Roman Senate.

However, with the way Healthcare was passed ..... it reminds me of the Roman Senate.
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oh so now you're admitting that Obama didn't force his will on people himself to pass the healthcare. It was the people who passed it, not Obama.
 
Steinhauer said:
The Roman system of government is what the United Kingdom based their model on.

So did the U.S.
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but.... it was a dictatorship.... so you're saying the dictatorship began with George Washington to now?
 
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