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yes, they thought it would make me feel good about myself or something. but I cringe everytime they used the word "special"
 
I disagree. I think most of them are in mainstream schools, just because the public schools are easy to access.
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YES!!!!! They think " oh neighborhood schools are the best!" or they don't know about formal dhh programs (some of which are quite good) or think that their kid isn't deaf enough, or whatever. Heck many of them may think that mainstreaming is better b/c we ALL KNOW (sarcasm) how horrible the deaf schools can be. (and when they transfer their kids to a deaf school/program they rave on and on about how good it is!)
fair jour....the paucity of offerings isn't just limited to a deaf school. MANY schools have trouble providing ideal learning enviorments for their students. Nort all mainstream schools are the stereotypical high acheiver type where there's tons of AP classes and things like that.
And yes, partial mainstreaming is a solution. I remember we used to have a poster who went to RISD and she took some classes at the deaf school and the rest at a mainstream school.
Homeschooled kids may do this too. They may have the one on one instruction in some things, but take classes at a community college or whatever. It's not at a deaf school..but the deaf school is paying for it, so they are providing it.
 
posts from hell said:
Just wondering -

Would you consider putting your kids into a deaf school?
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At my deaf school where i work there is about 60% CI kids, the school is on par with the national curriclum, some kids goes on to Oxford Uni.

It's an Oral school but we don't forbid them from signing. This school also encourages children to take up music intrument of any form also encourages us to take up foregin Language as part of curriclum which most mainstream can't (more likely won't) offer to deaf kids. This school have up to 12 per class, carpeted, have good resources.

Many deaf schools and resources bases are closing down as the goverment thinks it's cheaper to send deaf kids to normal school with drive by TA!

Mainstream have about 30 kids and one teacher, I wonder how on earth a deaf child in class of 30 cope! I am doing work experience in mainstream with resource base for deaf kids, I go in class with 2 kids (both HA users) the noise was astromical, as the teacher was droning on, the concertration span of deaf kids are very short they soon drop of to sleep! they were so bored and cannot hear even with FM system as the room was sooooo noisy or lipread the teacher, they get so tired from looking at the lips all day. When they are in the resources base for "extra" maths/literacy (instead of music lesson/foregin language and few other subjects i cannot remember which), they are alert and eager to learn but sadly they are few years behind.

We need deaf school/resource base for ANY deaf kids.

And for I personally if i have a deaf kid - deaf school of course.
 
The problem is that you have to ship your kids of to go to deaf schools. To me that is a crap shoot. When my son lost his hearing due to meningitis he was only 18 months old. I would not even consider sending him away at that age and as I looked into it if found that there is abuse at many deaf schools and I'm sorry but I will not take a chance like that with my child. The problem I have is why should I have to ship my son off to a deaf school?
Why can't he get a deaf education at local schools?
 
Not all deaf school are boarding school, we have day pupils aswell.

We go through intensive police checks and must hold CRB (criminal records bureau) certificate (i have 4, one for each settings)
 
rockdrummer said:
The problem is that you have to ship your kids of to go to deaf schools. To me that is a crap shoot. When my son lost his hearing due to meningitis he was only 18 months old. I would not even consider sending him away at that age and as I looked into it if found that there is abuse at many deaf schools and I'm sorry but I will not take a chance like that with my child. The problem I have is why should I have to ship my son off to a deaf school?
Why can't he get a deaf education at local schools?
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Move closer to the deaf school?

And Deaf ed at a public school - cool. Have you thought about cultural development?

How old is your kid?
 
posts from hell said:
Move closer to the deaf school?

And Deaf ed at a public school - cool. Have you thought about cultural development?

How old is your kid?
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Moving closer to a deaf school in my area would mean quitting my job, my wife quitting her job, pulling my daughter out of school selling the house and relocating. My boy is 13. I'm not sure what you mean by cultural development. Do you mean Bilingual, Bicultural approach?
 
rockdrummer said:
The problem is that you have to ship your kids of to go to deaf schools. To me that is a crap shoot. When my son lost his hearing due to meningitis he was only 18 months old. I would not even consider sending him away at that age and as I looked into it if found that there is abuse at many deaf schools and I'm sorry but I will not take a chance like that with my child. The problem I have is why should I have to ship my son off to a deaf school?
Why can't he get a deaf education at local schools?
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What if there was no deaf education at the local schools? That's why so many kids end up falling behind because the local schools have no clue to how to adequately meet the child's needs.
 
faire_jour said:
All I am saying is that Deaf schools are not appropriate for ALL deaf students. Nothing is right for everyone.
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Just like hearing schools are not appropriate for all hearing students hence the accommodations in alternative teaching such as homeschooling or private schooling. Nothing is perfect for everyone.

I firmly believe support is important for each person's educational choice; hearing or Deaf.

Focusing on the downsides of the hearing/Deaf educational systems will not enable the individual student's educational growth, JMHO.
 
i was mainstreamed while i got the CI. when i was in middle school, my parents asked me if i wanted to go to a deaf school.. i said no! i was used to everything and i already made some good friends at that point. i couldn't leave my life behind.

i was in a deaf/hh program (yes, some public non-deaf schools have it!) until 5th grade. i was the only one who could leave the deaf/hh classroom for math, reading, social studies, and science classes.. that was weird, but it did maximize my potential. i never took any courses on life skills or whatever in high school.
 
shel90 said:
What if there was no deaf education at the local schools? That's why so many kids end up falling behind because the local schools have no clue to how to adequately meet the child's needs.
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I understand Shel. And it really sucks the way things are but choices have to be made based on knowledge and information.
 
anakin said:
i was mainstreamed while i got the CI. when i was in middle school, my parents asked me if i wanted to go to a deaf school.. i said no! i was used to everything and i already made some good friends at that point. i couldn't leave my life behind.

i was in a deaf/hh program (yes, some public non-deaf schools have it!) until 5th grade. i was the only one who could leave the deaf/hh classroom for math, reading, social studies, and science classes.. that was weird, but it did maximize my potential. i never took any courses on life skills or whatever in high school.
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I was in mainstream up to the 6th grade, and they had a deaf/hh program, like you I was able to take classes outside the program. I don't think I was in the program much, I was constantly being sent to other schools for better education. (4th grade, I was going to a middle school for the rest of the day after 20 minutes in that program classroom)

I did have some good friends back then, but the friends I have now through the Deaf schools far surpasses the people I were good friends with like nothing.

I'm just very very very grateful that I went to the Deaf school. I wouldn't be the person I am now, and I wouldn't have the friends I have if it wasn't for the Deaf school.
 
I attended a school for the deaf for my primary years, but was mainstream several times weekly for a few times in year 5 and six at the local primary across the road. for high school i was mainstreamed in all classes since it was a local comprehensive with a Hearing Impaired Unit, although I did have a CSW(communication support worker in all of my classes)
In year 7 I became to get very attached to my deaf peers, I would not interact with my hearing peers, my TOD and form tutor tried to get me to make friends with the hearing girls who was in most of my classes. That did not work since I knew I wanted to be with my deaf friends. Today I have many friends, both deaf and hearing. But without the deaf school and the high school i went to I would not be who i am today :)
 
Mrs Bucket said:
Just like hearing schools are not appropriate for all hearing students hence the accommodations in alternative teaching such as homeschooling or private schooling. Nothing is perfect for everyone.

I firmly believe support is important for each person's educational choice; hearing or Deaf.

Focusing on the downsides of the hearing/Deaf educational systems will not enable the individual student's educational growth, JMHO.
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I completly agree. No school is right for every child. That is why I said that I would consider a Deaf school, if it was appropriate. I would consider it, along with other schools, and figure out what is best for *my* child. I'm not worried about trends and president, I'm worried about my child's education and future.
 
rockdrummer said:
The problem is that you have to ship your kids of to go to deaf schools. To me that is a crap shoot. When my son lost his hearing due to meningitis he was only 18 months old. I would not even consider sending him away at that age and as I looked into it if found that there is abuse at many deaf schools and I'm sorry but I will not take a chance like that with my child. The problem I have is why should I have to ship my son off to a deaf school?
Why can't he get a deaf education at local schools?
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Some deaf school are not residential. But they do require you to move.
 
anakin said:
i was mainstreamed while i got the CI. when i was in middle school, my parents asked me if i wanted to go to a deaf school.. i said no! i was used to everything and i already made some good friends at that point. i couldn't leave my life behind.

i was in a deaf/hh program (yes, some public non-deaf schools have it!) until 5th grade. i was the only one who could leave the deaf/hh classroom for math, reading, social studies, and science classes.. that was weird, but it did maximize my potential. i never took any courses on life skills or whatever in high school.
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I'm the opposite. They did not have a deaf/hh program for me. So LD class became a substitute for Deaf/hh program. But like you, I could go to a regular mainstreamed class for math, science, social studies, etc. And I didn't have CI. I was severe HOH with hearing aids.
 
rockdrummer said:
The problem is that you have to ship your kids of to go to deaf schools. To me that is a crap shoot. When my son lost his hearing due to meningitis he was only 18 months old. I would not even consider sending him away at that age and as I looked into it if found that there is abuse at many deaf schools and I'm sorry but I will not take a chance like that with my child. The problem I have is why should I have to ship my son off to a deaf school?
Why can't he get a deaf education at local schools?
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I also wanted to add that why a parent is willing to move for child who have cancer (because of no cancer center in the area) , but not for a child who is deaf?
 
he problem is that you have to ship your kids of to go to deaf schools. To me that is a crap shoot.. I would not even consider sending him away at that age and as I looked into it if found that there is abuse at many deaf schools and I'm sorry but I will not take a chance like that with my child. The problem I have is why should I have to ship my son off to a deaf school?
Why can't he get a deaf education at local schools?
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Not nessarily. Some school systems have really good established mainstream formal programs. But the thing is, most local schools really don't have the staff, or training to teach a dhh kid. They usually have minimal training. Most special ed programs at mainstream schools are set up for LD kids. Therefore if a dhh kid can't suceed with minimal accomondations, they get lumped in with the " Ummm who's President Obama?" types who are LEGION in special ed.
I understand not wanting to send your kid to a school for the deaf at a young age.
Unless a kid is from a dangerous area or one of those areas (like an Indian reservation) where there's not even good resouces or options for a typical student, or are foster kids, I think they need to wait til they are in third or fourth grade to be a residental student.
You can always move. MANY people do. It's actually quite common for parents to move to a place where there's a better deaf school/program. (both oral and TC)
Besides your son is now 13...he's a teenager. He's old enough to go off to school. I think virtually ALL schools for the deaf now send kids home for the weekend. Yes, it's hard to not see them every day, but on the other hand it gives dhh kids indepedance and access to a REALLY good education. You could send him to Model secondary School for the Deaf.....Oh, and the myth about abuse at the res schools, is just that. A myth.
It happened a LOT back in the old days, yes. However it happened virtually EVERYWHERE. There were no failsafes to ensure that abuse didn't happen.
Now things are MUCH improved. And yes, it may still happen....but abuse happens at mainstream schools too!
 
faire_jour said:
I completly agree. No school is right for every child. That is why I said that I would consider a Deaf school, if it was appropriate. I would consider it, along with other schools, and figure out what is best for *my* child. I'm not worried about trends and president, I'm worried about my child's education and future.
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This I see as a concerned parent; wanting the best for their child's education. Deaf or hearing; you have my support.

It is always best to give support than criticism.
 
What about the child's considerations? What if the child is unhappy being mainstreamed or in an oral program but doesnt know what the problem is and parents cant recognize it? As a result, the child continues to suffer but continues to fool everyone that he/she is not suffering? The long term consequences can be very damaging.
 
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