Switzerland Defends Ban on Mosque Minarets

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Funny how there are more freedom in Switzerland than those Arab countries and yet Switzerland is the bad guy?

Please.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
whoever say we are going to do that? Seriously, did we round up EVERY SINGLE MUSLIMs in Afghanistan?
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quite a lot. thousands of them. some in Afghanistan. some in Gitmo Camp. some around the world - dozens of classified CIA prison camps. Not that I'm saying what we did was wrong. I do believe we did what we had to do and it was necessary but I do not deny the fact that sometimes we do get hindsight and we do let the fear & paranoia takes over us.
 
Jiro said:
quite a lot. thousands of them. some in Afghanistan. some in Gitmo Camp. some around the world - dozens of classified CIA prison camps. Not that I'm saying what we did was wrong. I do believe we did what we had to do and it was necessary but I do not deny the fact that sometimes we do get hindsight and we do let the fear & paranoia takes over us.
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Same thing happened with the Japanese in the USA during WW2.
 
kokonut said:
Funny how there are more freedom in Switzerland than those Arab countries and yet Switzerland is the bad guy?

Please.
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I think it's time to shine some serious spotlights on those Arab countries regarding their extreme intolerance on religious freedom and the hypocrites they really are.

But people won't. Why? Political correctness, of course. Just watch.
 
kokonut said:
Funny how there are more freedom in Switzerland than those Arab countries and yet Switzerland is the bad guy?

Please.
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So... just because we can lower the bar... doesn't means we have to. We have to keep the bars high so the rest of the world can strive to meet it.
 
Source: Switzerland Defends Ban on Mosque Minarets - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

Sunday's referendum, during which voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on minarets, was not "a referendum against Islam ... but a vote directed against fundamentalist developments."
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The referendum by the nationalist Swiss People's Party labeled minarets as symbols of rising Muslim political power that could one day transform Switzerland into an Islamic nation. The initiative was approved 57.5 to 42.5 percent by some 2.67 million voters. Only four of the 26 cantons or states opposed the initiative, granting the double approval that makes it part of the Swiss constitution.

Muslims comprise about 6 percent of Switzerland's 7.5 million people. Many are refugees from the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s and about one in 10 actively practices their religion, the government says.

The country's four standing minarets, which won't be affected by the ban, do not traditionally broadcast the call to prayer outside their own buildings.
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"The minaret is a sign of political power and demand, comparable with whole-body covering by the burqa, tolerance of forced marriage and genital mutilation of girls," the sponsors said. They noted that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has compared mosques to Islam's military barracks and called "the minarets our bayonets."
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"Muslims in Switzerland are able to practice their religion alone or in community with others, and live according to their beliefs just as before."
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kokonut said:
I think it's time to shine some serious spotlights on those Arab countries regarding their extreme intolerance on religious freedom and the hypocrites they really are.

But people won't. Why? Political correctness, of course. Just watch.
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ah yes - so because Arab countries do it... and we should do it too! Let's do honor-killing!

:roll:
 
souggy said:
So... just because we can lower the bar... doesn't means we have to. We have to keep the bars high so the rest of the world can strive to meet it.
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Rather it's that other countries should at least hurdle over the lowest bar there is which is pathetic. Not to mention quite backward. Other countries are light years ahead of the game in terms of freedom and liberty.
 
Lowest common dominator is a lame-duck excuse when it come to politics.

Guess I should protest by refusing to live in places where they have bell-towers for churches.
 
bells have no religious symbol other than tell time (especially time for church). I don't know the purpose of bells and I think many people like bells.
honestly, I don't care what they do, but I do know that if we ever bring Christianity on a gov't property, people will throw a fit.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
bells have no religious symbol other than tell time (especially time for church). I don't know the purpose of bells and I think many people like bells.
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ding dong!
 
Nobody is forcing you to walk 2 steps behind a person or wear a veil. Prevent you from driving a car because of a DNA difference. Kill you for apostasy. Or force you to be a part of a legal system where infidelity means execution, and so on. Funny how people conviently, on a daily basis, ignore these things. Yet the hypocrites scream about something regarding the loss of freedom when in all actuality they've more freedom than ever compared to their fellow Arab countries and elsewhere.
 
kokonut said:
Nobody is forcing you to walk 2 steps behind a person or wear a veil. Prevent you from driving a car because of a DNA difference. Kill you for apostasy. Or force you to be a part of a legal system where infidelity means execution, and so on. Funny how people conviently, on a daily basis, ignore these things. Yet the hypocrites scream about something regarding the loss of freedom when in all actuality they've more freedom than ever compared to their fellow Arab countries and elsewhere.
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all for more reason why we should set example for them and show tolerance.
 
souggy said:
Lowest common dominator is a lame-duck excuse.

Stop using it.
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Stop ignoring the problems when it comes to freedom and liberty of both sexes in countries that seek to control women their rights which is a more serious concern here. Switzerland is hardly a case to froth over when ironically we should be twenty times as upset seeing Arab countries and elsewhere do worse.
 
Down with Israel! Down with Israel!

Whoops, wrong thread. :D
 
Lighthouse77 said:
bells have no religious symbol other than tell time (especially time for church). I don't know the purpose of bells and I think many people like bells.
honestly, I don't care what they do, but I do know that if we ever bring Christianity on a gov't property, people will throw a fit.
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Isn't that Moses holding the 10 commandments on the facade of the Supreme court building in Washington DC??

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I'm talking about any newly built. People wouldn't dare tear down older buildings.
 
CJB said:
Muslims are called to prayer five times a day. The calling to prayer comes from the minaret.
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The minaret was designed as a convenience, not a necessity, for the call to prayers. It was used in the days before people had wristwatches, cell phones, or clocks to remind them of the time. Minarets are not a requirement for their worship. Not every mosque has a minaret.

Now they can set their PDA alarms to remind them of the times to pray.
 
Reba said:
The minaret was designed as a convenience, not a necessity, for the call to prayers. It was used in the days before people had wristwatches, cell phones, or clocks to remind them of the time. Minarets are not a requirement for their worship. Not every mosque has a minaret.

Now they can set their PDA alarms to remind them of the times to pray.
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yep. my roomie has a computer program that would blast the prayer call. Freaks me out during the first 2 weeks. got used to it for a couple years. :aw:
 
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