Abortion argument leads to murder

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I think even if the lady did get an abortion, she would have ended up being killed.
 
shel90 said:
I think even if the lady did get an abortion, she would have ended up being killed.
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More likely than not. And maybe the child, too, after enduring several years of abuse.
 
CJB said:
I take back my earlier statement saying it was on the OP. I think the journalist was also intentionally misleading by titling the article "Abortion Argument Leads to Murder." "Argument Leads to Murder" would have sufficed with the abortion detail mentioned in the article itself. But by making the very first word of the title "Abortion," just as Shel and deafskeptic mentioned, the reader is subtly pushed in the direction of thinking of pro-life vs. pro-choice.
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no, I just know how common this argument is between the pregnant mother and the father. Some do get out of hand.
 
She wanted to keep the child so she would NOT better off with abortion. No matter how awful he is or if he would have kill her sooner or later or abuse their child. People need to deal with it if someone want to keep the child.
 
Lighthouse, "get out of hand" is the understatement of the day. I wouldn't refer to murder as something getting out of hand. It's an intentional crime. Don't trivialize it.
 
yes it is intentional and refusing abortion would be his motive.

but I've seen (I witnessed this) where guy would punch a girl's stomach out of rage because she wouldn't have abortion. They talk about it at first, then get an argument, and when he doesn't get what he wanted, he would beat the crap out of her.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
She wanted to keep the child so she would NOT better off with abortion. No matter how awful he is or if he would have kill her sooner or later or abuse their child. People need to deal with it if someone want to keep the child.
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Yeah, it's same thing if it is a person wants to end her pregnancy, or to place her child up for the adoption. Let her be so.

As speak of pro-choice vs pro-life ... but, what if the soon-to-be mother is a pro-choice, not a pro-life? Really, I don't see what or how the point of killing is. Murdering someone else is so wrong, period.
 
Dumbheads.......correct me if I amwrong...but isn't 8 months preggy too late to have and abortion?
So he thought he could solve his problems by killing two? And spending life in prison?
Some kill abortion docs....others kill one who wants to keep child.
Where is the exit door on this insane planet????
 
Cowpuppy said:
Dumbheads.......correct me if I amwrong...but isn't 8 months preggy too late to have and abortion?
So he thought he could solve his problems by killing two? And spending life in prison?
Some kill abortion docs....others kill one who wants to keep child.
Where is the exit door on this insane planet????
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I remember readin' one article talkin' about an older man -- a kinda of elderly who held the sign sayin' "Pro-life" with an image of a baby. Some one killed him on the outside.

I remember when my fiance and I drove down the road and we saw one elderly man who held the sign sayin' "Pro-life" with an image of a baby... we waved at him with our smiles. We supported pro-life. Than man wasn't pregnant and yet, someone killed him FOR HOLDIN' THAT SIGN that SAYS "Pro-life".

Soo, it obviously that this man in the article who wanted an abortion before killed his pregnant wife...has a mental/psychological problem. He has some issues himself, not his pregnant wife. By havin' a baby is supposed to be a happy celebration because, it is a GIFT with LOVE. Why killed that gift ?

What does that "lovemakin'" means ? It created a life. I have NEVER heard anyone say "hatemakin'" if, it's not for people to have sex to create a life. That's what sex is for. It's not JUST somethin' that people would enjoy but, it is about EVERYTHIN'. Some people don't have any common sense nowdays. Ugh!
 
Dreama used the headline that the original news story used. It was also included in the lead paragraph, and in the captions of pictures and videos that illustrated the story at the news website. So, Dreama was not misleading in using that as a thread topic.

It wasn't Dreama who originally deducted that the double killing resulted from an argument about abortion. It was the victims' neighbors and the investigating deputies.

Instead of debating the OP's motives or methods, why not focus on the story itself?
 
Lighthouse77 said:
yes it is intentional and refusing abortion would be his motive.

but I've seen (I witnessed this) where guy would punch a girl's stomach out of rage because she wouldn't have abortion. They talk about it at first, then get an argument, and when he doesn't get what he wanted, he would beat the crap out of her.
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She was 8 months pregnant when he murdered her. She could not have an abortion, as the time for elective abortion was 5 months prior. It does not add up.
 
Cowpuppy said:
Dumbheads.......correct me if I amwrong...but isn't 8 months preggy too late to have and abortion?
So he thought he could solve his problems by killing two? And spending life in prison?
Some kill abortion docs....others kill one who wants to keep child.
Where is the exit door on this insane planet????
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Yes, it is. That is why the story about an argument over abortion leading to murder doesn't add up.
 
Reba said:
Dreama used the headline that the original news story used. It was also included in the lead paragraph, and in the captions of pictures and videos that illustrated the story at the news website. So, Dreama was not misleading in using that as a thread topic.

It wasn't Dreama who originally deducted that the double killing resulted from an argument about abortion. It was the victims' neighbors and the investigating deputies.

Instead of debating the OP's motives or methods, why not focus on the story itself?
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I believe we have focused on the story by pointing out that the time line does not add up, and that this was a case of domestic violence that ended in murder. An abuser doesn't need a reason to abuse. They believe they are given that right, and that the victim is subservient and less than human.
 
Reba said:
Dreama used the headline that the original news story used. It was also included in the lead paragraph, and in the captions of pictures and videos that illustrated the story at the news website. So, Dreama was not misleading in using that as a thread topic.

It wasn't Dreama who originally deducted that the double killing resulted from an argument about abortion. It was the victims' neighbors and the investigating deputies.

Instead of debating the OP's motives or methods, why not focus on the story itself?
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I agree. It's rather than havin' this thread bein' locked up.
 
jillio said:
I believe we have focused on the story by pointing out that the time line does not add up, and that this was a case of domestic violence that ended in murder. An abuser doesn't need a reason to abuse. They believe they are given that right, and that the victim is subservient and less than human.
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Still doesn't make up for the accusation against dreama. She just reported the news, and based her opinion on the wording of the article.

Yes, her pro-life stance is no secret, but isn't she entitled to it? So instead of attacking the original poster, maybe attack the source? I means... people could be attacking your belief based on the articles you choose to post on the forum.

And... pro-abortion, without the pro-life or pro-choice context, have the implication of "eugenics" if you ask me...
 
The story is that this is a case of domestic violence that resulted in murder. The murderer is grasping at straws in an attempt to justify his actions. Typical of the longtime abuser. Let this serve as a warning to those who are currently involved in a violent or coercive relationship. This is where the road leads.
 
The story doesn't make sense. In the video tape, the neighbor that found the woman said that he found her inside her house alone and that she was already cold. The article says that witnesses said that they were fighting about an abortion that couldn't legally happen. Witnesses to what? Previous fights? Not the murder. It looks like sloppy reporting and poor writing.
 
souggy said:
Still doesn't make up for the accusation against dreama. She just reported the news, and based her opinion on the wording of the article.

Yes, her pro-life stance is no secret, but isn't she entitled to it? So instead of attacking the original poster, maybe attack the source? I means... people could be attacking your belief based on the articles you choose to post on the forum.

And... pro-abortion, without the pro-life or pro-choice context, have the implication of "eugenics" if you ask me...
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Pro-abortion is the terminology used by the pro-life movement. You will need to take that issue up with them. Personally, I don't know anyone who is "pro-abortion." Everyone I know agrees that it is distasteful, but often the best option. That is a pro-choice stance. Claiming pro-life does not provide anyone with the right to determine another's medical decisions, nor to invade their right to privacy in a medical situation.

Perhaps you have missed the numerous times that this forum has been literally flooded with anti-abortion propoganda. Yes, everyone is well aware of the OP's opinion. No need to reiterate it again and again.
 
I know about the pro-abortion versus pro-life thing, it just... icks me when people (especially pro-lifers) don't seem to get what the prior actually imply in comparison to the latter.

Yay! Every Slav and Slav descendent must abort! Only British and western European blood are allowed! God bless Canada for that stupid law.
 
sallylou said:
The story doesn't make sense. In the video tape, the neighbor that found the woman said that he found her inside her house alone and that she was already cold. The article says that witnesses said that they were fighting about an abortion that couldn't legally happen. Witnesses to what? Previous fights? Not the murder. It looks like sloppy reporting and poor writing.
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Exactly. If she were already cold, she had been dead for some time. They certainly weren't arguing about anything immediately preceeding the neighbors discovering her lying on the floor.
 
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