LuciaDisturbed
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due to the fact that I don't go to church.
MODS: this is NOT a religious discussion and it is NOT about religions, it's simply about discrimination and professionalism, and I wasn't sure where to put this in as this topic is DISCRIMINATION. Since it had nothing to do with disabilities I can't put this in the "Americans with Disabilities Act" forum. This is discrimination based on SOMETHING that they THINK I SHOULD be DOING but I am NOT doing - something that is really NONE of their business. Please don't move it to the religious forum - we are talking about DISCRIMINATION here. Bottom line - discrimination of civil rights. Thank you very much.
Anyhow, today I decided I wanted to go get my hair cut as my hair was getting shaggy and the nearest hair salon was just around the block. Costs more than the local beauty college, but I was willing to pay for it, no problem, I just wanted my hair cut as I had something going on tomorrow and wanted to look good for it and the beauty college was already closed. I had my old clippers but they were broken hence the reason for my going to this shop (I originally thought clippers would cost $30 and the haircut at the shop would be only about $14 as I didn't want to spend that much money on clippers at this time, I wanted to save my money and buy the clipper another time). It was going to be my first time having my hair cut at this specific shop. I went to the hair salon which was still open and when I got there I went in and told one of the women that works there via paper and pen (my own paper and pen) that I would like to have my hair cut. First they asked me how I would like it cut, so I thought this was going to be okay and that there wasn't going to be any issues. I told them how I would like my hair cut. Then all of a sudden one of the women asked me if I knew "the lord jesus". I thought, "WTF? Are they supposed to be asking me this, isn't this a place of business?" and I just said "um yeah but thank you" just to try to kindly tell them that I wasn't interested in this topic but thank you, just was trying to be polite as it wasn't something I wanted to talk about. She then asked me if I went to church. Of course I said no as I don't go and have not gone for the last ten years or so and I honestly don't see what the huge deal was about this anyway. Like I said, WTF? I told them that I really don't think that one needs to go to church in order to have beliefs. They continued to insist that I go to church. I then simply said "OK" hoping they would drop the subject so I could get my hair cut already because that was the only reason I came into the shop for - to get my hair cut. That's when the other woman bluntly said that when I started going to church they would cut my hair, they were refusing to cut my hair til I started going to church. I simply said, "That's discrimination". I am not sure exactly what the first woman wrote next as her handwriting began to get a bit illegible, but I think she was asking me if I was going to pay her, and I said of course. Then the second woman asked me what do I think it is, that I don't have any money or something like that which made me go WTF, I think she was getting bitchy with me or something. I don't know what her problem was. But I said nicely that I said I do have money, even though I don't work but I do have the money for the haircut, that I would have no problem paying for the haircut (I had cash on me). (Like I said earlier, WTF?). That's when they suggested that I try another hair salon that they claimed was "up the street" (which I knew was not there - in fact it was in ANOTHER zip code - I know exactly where it is because it is where my fiance gets his hair cut at). I guess at this point they no longer wanted my business, which was fine with me. I then asked them where they meant it was at, and they changed their claim to say it was a DIFFERENT street name, AND one that wasn't even "up the street", either. And even so I knew there was no such hair salon on that street either because I am on that street frequently and know it well and have seen no such hair salon and I double-checked with my fiance on my SK3 and I was right. They then changed their claim AGAIN to say that it was by the post office on ANOTHER street, and I know there is no such hair salon by the post office because that is MY post office that I frequent. They then asked me where I lived, to which I did not respond to as my address is none of their business and I knew where they were getting at. I was still talking to my fiance on the SK3 and that's when they noticed my SK3 and that's when they had the "oh shit" faces and went "get the notes, get the notes" but I had already took the notes away and put them in my pocket and that was when one of the women tried to paw me but I simply stepped back and said "hands-off please" (with the universal "stop" gesture using both hands - I don't like to be touched and pawed) and then they got another piece of paper and wrote to ask where the notes were at and that's when I said "Why? Are you afraid I'm going to report you?" and that's they told me to get out, to that of course I replied, "okay" and left, only pausing outside to note the address, name, and phone number of the shop, and then went along on my way to go to a store to buy my own clippers so I could do my hair myself. Unfortunately I was unable to get the names of the women that was there. Clearly they realized they did discriminate me, that's why they got all frantic about the notes, they knew that I had proof. :roll: BTW, I found clippers for sale for $13 so I guess I got lucky, and it will pay for itself in the long run anyway and I won't have to deal with the hoity-toity people. I cut my hair tonight and I look awesome.
They've lost my business. They shouldn't be discriminating against customers based on whether they go to church or not, that's real dumb.
I still have the notes and will be contacting the BBB as well as the Texas Cosmetic Commission on Monday.
Geez, I came in to get my hair cut and was refused service simply because they won't do business with people who doesn't go to church. :roll: How mature.
What a bunch of self-righteous hoity-toity women. Whether I go to church or not is none of their business...their job is to cut my hair and that's it. It's a HAIR SALON not a church. It's not even Sunday, either. Geez. I guess I should have simply said that it was not a subject I wished to discuss but I have a feeling they would press on the subject until they got an answer they wanted to hear. Some people are like that. :roll:
Oh well, I now feel I can no longer trust them with my hair especially if they feel this way about MY own beliefs, they might do a half-assed job if they did end up cutting my hair anyway, I'd probably have ended up with bald spots (I have most of my head shaved with a #4 clipper and the front is just long bangs). I don't think they were acting professional anyway. I'm taking my business elsewhere. True professional hairdressers do not do this kind of thing, they do not ask about such personal aspects of your lives in order to decide whether you're someone they would want to cut hair for, because they are normally in this for MONEY - PROFITS - not to get nosy about someone's life. If you were causing trouble, I would understand but I wasn't causing trouble, I simply wanted my hair cut and that's where they started their own trouble. When they told me to get out, I left without protesting. I simply said "okay" and left the shop. My fiance is also not happy with the way they have treated me via discrimination.
Oh well. Just wanted to share with y'all about something I totally did not expect at a hair salon.
MODS: this is NOT a religious discussion and it is NOT about religions, it's simply about discrimination and professionalism, and I wasn't sure where to put this in as this topic is DISCRIMINATION. Since it had nothing to do with disabilities I can't put this in the "Americans with Disabilities Act" forum. This is discrimination based on SOMETHING that they THINK I SHOULD be DOING but I am NOT doing - something that is really NONE of their business. Please don't move it to the religious forum - we are talking about DISCRIMINATION here. Bottom line - discrimination of civil rights. Thank you very much.
Anyhow, today I decided I wanted to go get my hair cut as my hair was getting shaggy and the nearest hair salon was just around the block. Costs more than the local beauty college, but I was willing to pay for it, no problem, I just wanted my hair cut as I had something going on tomorrow and wanted to look good for it and the beauty college was already closed. I had my old clippers but they were broken hence the reason for my going to this shop (I originally thought clippers would cost $30 and the haircut at the shop would be only about $14 as I didn't want to spend that much money on clippers at this time, I wanted to save my money and buy the clipper another time). It was going to be my first time having my hair cut at this specific shop. I went to the hair salon which was still open and when I got there I went in and told one of the women that works there via paper and pen (my own paper and pen) that I would like to have my hair cut. First they asked me how I would like it cut, so I thought this was going to be okay and that there wasn't going to be any issues. I told them how I would like my hair cut. Then all of a sudden one of the women asked me if I knew "the lord jesus". I thought, "WTF? Are they supposed to be asking me this, isn't this a place of business?" and I just said "um yeah but thank you" just to try to kindly tell them that I wasn't interested in this topic but thank you, just was trying to be polite as it wasn't something I wanted to talk about. She then asked me if I went to church. Of course I said no as I don't go and have not gone for the last ten years or so and I honestly don't see what the huge deal was about this anyway. Like I said, WTF? I told them that I really don't think that one needs to go to church in order to have beliefs. They continued to insist that I go to church. I then simply said "OK" hoping they would drop the subject so I could get my hair cut already because that was the only reason I came into the shop for - to get my hair cut. That's when the other woman bluntly said that when I started going to church they would cut my hair, they were refusing to cut my hair til I started going to church. I simply said, "That's discrimination". I am not sure exactly what the first woman wrote next as her handwriting began to get a bit illegible, but I think she was asking me if I was going to pay her, and I said of course. Then the second woman asked me what do I think it is, that I don't have any money or something like that which made me go WTF, I think she was getting bitchy with me or something. I don't know what her problem was. But I said nicely that I said I do have money, even though I don't work but I do have the money for the haircut, that I would have no problem paying for the haircut (I had cash on me). (Like I said earlier, WTF?). That's when they suggested that I try another hair salon that they claimed was "up the street" (which I knew was not there - in fact it was in ANOTHER zip code - I know exactly where it is because it is where my fiance gets his hair cut at). I guess at this point they no longer wanted my business, which was fine with me. I then asked them where they meant it was at, and they changed their claim to say it was a DIFFERENT street name, AND one that wasn't even "up the street", either. And even so I knew there was no such hair salon on that street either because I am on that street frequently and know it well and have seen no such hair salon and I double-checked with my fiance on my SK3 and I was right. They then changed their claim AGAIN to say that it was by the post office on ANOTHER street, and I know there is no such hair salon by the post office because that is MY post office that I frequent. They then asked me where I lived, to which I did not respond to as my address is none of their business and I knew where they were getting at. I was still talking to my fiance on the SK3 and that's when they noticed my SK3 and that's when they had the "oh shit" faces and went "get the notes, get the notes" but I had already took the notes away and put them in my pocket and that was when one of the women tried to paw me but I simply stepped back and said "hands-off please" (with the universal "stop" gesture using both hands - I don't like to be touched and pawed) and then they got another piece of paper and wrote to ask where the notes were at and that's when I said "Why? Are you afraid I'm going to report you?" and that's they told me to get out, to that of course I replied, "okay" and left, only pausing outside to note the address, name, and phone number of the shop, and then went along on my way to go to a store to buy my own clippers so I could do my hair myself. Unfortunately I was unable to get the names of the women that was there. Clearly they realized they did discriminate me, that's why they got all frantic about the notes, they knew that I had proof. :roll: BTW, I found clippers for sale for $13 so I guess I got lucky, and it will pay for itself in the long run anyway and I won't have to deal with the hoity-toity people. I cut my hair tonight and I look awesome.
They've lost my business. They shouldn't be discriminating against customers based on whether they go to church or not, that's real dumb.
I still have the notes and will be contacting the BBB as well as the Texas Cosmetic Commission on Monday.
Geez, I came in to get my hair cut and was refused service simply because they won't do business with people who doesn't go to church. :roll: How mature.
What a bunch of self-righteous hoity-toity women. Whether I go to church or not is none of their business...their job is to cut my hair and that's it. It's a HAIR SALON not a church. It's not even Sunday, either. Geez. I guess I should have simply said that it was not a subject I wished to discuss but I have a feeling they would press on the subject until they got an answer they wanted to hear. Some people are like that. :roll:
Oh well, I now feel I can no longer trust them with my hair especially if they feel this way about MY own beliefs, they might do a half-assed job if they did end up cutting my hair anyway, I'd probably have ended up with bald spots (I have most of my head shaved with a #4 clipper and the front is just long bangs). I don't think they were acting professional anyway. I'm taking my business elsewhere. True professional hairdressers do not do this kind of thing, they do not ask about such personal aspects of your lives in order to decide whether you're someone they would want to cut hair for, because they are normally in this for MONEY - PROFITS - not to get nosy about someone's life. If you were causing trouble, I would understand but I wasn't causing trouble, I simply wanted my hair cut and that's where they started their own trouble. When they told me to get out, I left without protesting. I simply said "okay" and left the shop. My fiance is also not happy with the way they have treated me via discrimination.
Oh well. Just wanted to share with y'all about something I totally did not expect at a hair salon.
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and keep us posted... I'm curious to where this is going... 
