Obama represents family values

[diehardbiker]

Clinton lighten up the mortgage regulations to make it easier for people with lousy credit get mortgage, and lighten up the regulations on credit enable people with poor credit history get credit so easy, that is what lead to today's mess!

It takes years to notice the damages after whatever president passed or proposed and got em passed. No law has immediate effect.

These years where there are good employment rate, and everything was good was based on Reagan administration. Reagan did decent job eliminating the debt. Clinton is the one that wipes out, without anyone notice until it is too late.

Oh really? How do you explain the surplus and the dot-com boom? Both eventually disappeared (dot-com bust happened in Clinton's last year, right?) but quality of life was generally much better than the Bush years.

I think Bush was the one that totally screwed shit up.

 

[diehardbiker]

Sure, that was JFK! He is the last president not leaving the mess to the successor. LBJ started the financial mess, then Richard Nixon loosen up health care insurance regulation, resulting unbelieveable, eye-popping skyrocket cost!

Curious...wasn't there ever a president who didn't leave a mess for his successor? Just wondering since lately, we have been blaming the recent presidents for certain events.

Speaking of family values, there is a possibility that Jefferson impregnanted a slave so lack of family values did go wayyyyy back.

 

[netrox]

you mentioned clinton first so.....

I did? Where?

 

[Foxrac]

Clinton lighten up the mortgage regulations to make it easier for people with lousy credit get mortgage, and lighten up the regulations on credit enable people with poor credit history get credit so easy, that is what lead to today's mess!

It takes years to notice the damages after whatever president passed or proposed and got em passed. No law has immediate effect.

These years where there are good employment rate, and everything was good was based on Reagan administration. Reagan did decent job eliminating the debt. Clinton is the one that wipes out, without anyone notice until it is too late.

Yup, it's true and mortgage crisis were start occurred in 2005-2006, it took around nearly 10 years until crisis start after loosen the mortgage regulation in 90's.

 

[Jiro]

I did? Where?

post #12

 

[Liebling:-)))]

no..... Monica Lewinsky scandal happened in Clinton's 2nd term. If this happened in his 1st term, he would not have won 2nd term.

No, I mean BEFORE he elected to become president of the USA twice, not during first or second time.

Anyway accord your post, I personally don´t care about Clinton´s affair scandal during 1st or 2nd term or before won at 1st election because what and how he did is not my business but between him and his wife. Mainly important is he take care of the people and America well.

 

[Jiro]

No, I mean BEFORE he elected to become president of the USA twice, not during first or second time.

Anyway accord your post, I personally don´t care about Clinton´s affair scandal during 1st or 2nd term or before won at 1st election because what and how he did is not my business but between him and his wife. Mainly important is he take care of the people and America well.

But I don't understand what you're trying to say.

1. We're talking about Family Value
2. So I showed the picture of Clinton family as "EPIC FAIL" because of Lewinsky trial.
3. then you said - "The voters know Bill Clinton´s past background before they decided to elect him twice."
4. so I corrected you that we didn't know anything about Lewinsky scandal during 1st term.
5. if we knew about his scandal BEFORE 2nd term election - he would not have won.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

But I don't understand what you're trying to say.

1. We're talking about Family Value
2. So I showed the picture of Clinton family as "EPIC FAIL" because of Lewinsky trial.
3. then you said - "The voters know Bill Clinton´s past background before they decided to elect him twice."
4. so I corrected you that we didn't know anything about Lewinsky scandal during 1st term.
5. if we knew about his scandal BEFORE 2nd term election - he would not have won.

Accord your post #3... Yes, I tried to convince you the difference between Clinton and Obama because Obama´s background is clean before he won at first election.

No, it´s not just Lewinsky but he was well-known as a womaniser. Hillary was considered to divorce him but fail because of policial ground before he won election twice (first and second time).

I know from their own word on TV Document before he won at first election.

I´m surprised you didn´t know about that.

 

[Jiro]

Accord your post #3... Yes, I tried to convince you the difference between Clinton and Obama because Obama´s background is clean before he won at first election.

No, it´s not just Lewinsky but he was well-known as a womaniser. Hillary was considered to divorce him but fail because of policial ground before he won election twice (first and second time).

I know from their own word on TV Document before he won at first election.

I´m surprised you didn´t know about that.

so why do you like him?? "He take care of the people and America well."??? that's a huge contradiction. btw - you shouldn't be surprised that I didn't know about that at that time cuz I was only 12 years old when he became the President

 

[Liebling:-)))]

so why do you like him?? "He take care of the people and America well."??? that's a huge contradiction. btw - you shouldn't be surprised that I didn't know about that at that time cuz I was only 12 years old

You should separate his private and duty. As his duty, he take care of his people and America pretty good.

Ahh, I get it...

 

[Jiro]

You should separate his private and duty. As his duty, he take care of his people and America pretty good.

Ahh, I get it...

but he abused his "Presidential power" to force women to have sex with him and to cover it up. that's no way of taking care of his people and America... Like you always say - you can't have it both ways

 

[Liebling:-)))]

but he abused his "Presidential power" to force women to have sex with him and to cover it up. that's no way to taking care of his people and America... Like you always say - you can't have it both ways

Do you have proof that he FORCED women to have sex with him during president time? I assume that you as 12 years old read nonsense media...?

I only know that he is a womanizer for long years before and after he won at election twice.

What I stand is correction that his private and duty should be separate. I don´t see anything that I have both way... I only see that he as duty doing his job to take care of people and America pretty good.

 

[Jiro]

Do you have proof that he FORCED women to have sex with him during president time?

do you think some piddly, insignificant, unimportant, young woman can say "no" to the President of the United States? such a naivete you are...

I assume that you as 12 years old read nonsense media...?

I don't know about you but have you ever seen a 12 years old kid being very interested in politic? I was busy having fun like The Wonder Years, riding bike around, looking under girls' skirts, living like a normal 12 years old pervert

I only know that he is a womanizer for long years before and after he won at election twice.

What I stand is correction that his private and duty should be separate. I don´t see anything that I have both way... I only see that he as duty doing his job to take care of people and America pretty good.

I'm quite appalled at the way of your thinking..... thanks God you're not American voter......

 

[BradB08]

You both are going to get banned again if you don't keep it under control.

Heh.

Jiro is just filling the void that Jillio left when she was banned by arguing with Liebling.

 

[Reba]

No, I mean BEFORE he elected to become president of the USA twice, not during first or second time.

Anyway accord your post, I personally don´t care about Clinton´s affair scandal during 1st or 2nd term or before won at 1st election because what and how he did is not my business but between him and his wife. Mainly important is he take care of the people and America well.

Many Americans, including me, didn't vote for Clinton either time. He was a liar who couldn't be trusted. Just ask Hillary.

 

[Jiro]

You both are going to get banned again if you don't keep it under control.

Heh.

Jiro is just filling the void that Jillio left when she was banned by arguing with Liebling.

dammit

 

[Reba]

Do you have proof that he FORCED women to have sex with him during president time?

You think sexual abuse and rape are funny???

 

[Foxrac]

No, I mean BEFORE he elected to become president of the USA twice, not during first or second time.

Anyway accord your post, I personally don´t care about Clinton´s affair scandal during 1st or 2nd term or before won at 1st election because what and how he did is not my business but between him and his wife. Mainly important is he take care of the people and America well.

No, according to US constitution, US president is supposed to be clean and be civil when come in oval office and oval office has been represent to Americans and president is supposed to respect us, sex scandal in oval office is strictly unacceptable and should to be resign or impeachment.

Bill Clinton does lie to us and cheat on his wife due sex with Monica.

I don't have any respect for Bill Clinton anymore and I don't care if he is doing good job during his presidency but sex scandal has done to damage his reputation.

 

[Foxrac]

Many Americans, including me, didn't vote for Clinton either time. He was a liar who couldn't be trusted. Just ask Hillary.

I wasn't vote him because I was childhood in 90's.

 

[BradB08]

dammit

Well it's true. You have a need to have a liberal, preferably female "foil" to argue with and Liebling fills that void.

It's Amateur Psychology 101.