Palin's Daughter--Pregnant!

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Originally Posted by jillio
Better to prevent the problems from occurring in the first place than to try to fix them after they have happened.
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Yes, that's right.

Maria said:
Well, you can't put the leash on around their necks to keep an eye on them for 24/7. What are you gonna do about it ? You wouldn't know WHEN it will happen. You wouldn't know WHERE it will take place.
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Control the children and teach positive values to the children is not the same thing. Nobody here says about control the children but teach positive values. We all know that we are not here and there 24/7 for our children but be there/here for our children EVERYDAY. Get the difference?
 
Maria said:
Well, look at Palin's daughter. Her and her boyfriend are plannin' to marry.
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Who says that Bristol and Levi want to get married? All what I know from Levi's side:

Bristol Palin's pregnancy was an open secret back home


Levi described himself as a reckneck...

The description of the article sounds that Levi do not feel ready for fatherhood and marry yet.

It look like that Sarah rather have her daughter to marry that guy than be a single mother or put the baby up for adoption?


She don't jump around with different men when the abstinence don't work.
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How do you know?


Some teen girls are smart for not jumpin' around, knowin' what it will do to their health ( STDs and so forth ). Some teens know what responsiblities are.
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Thanks to PROPER sex education... It could be that their parents talk openly with their children over sex issues.

Like for instance : My oldest daughter got pregnant with her first son at the age of 16. She wasn't the only one. I was there for her to go through all this. Right now, her son is 12 years old and wear a black belt ( karate ). She don't get STDs or whatsoever. She stayed with her man for over 10 years.
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You were there for your daughter but Palin?

I hope you don't mind me to ask you question. Did you talk openly with your children over sex issues? You don't have to answer if you don't want to... I will respect it.
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jillio said:
The fact of the matter is, she is a 17 year old child pregnant with another child. Children giving birth to children is never a good situation, especially for the child being born into that situation.

Teenaged marraiges have an even higher divorce rate than the general population, and the general population is well over 50%.

I can hear the shotgun going off at that wedding ceremony from here.

Why aren't Palin's daughter and the father of her child already married, if that is the intent? They have known about her preganancy for quite a while.

Did you teach your daughter abstinence only?
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Yes, very true...

My mother is also teenage mother as well. She had me when she was 17 years old and end to divorce ... struggle with life...social assistance...

From read the articles, seem to me that it's shotgun wedding, Palin plans for her daughter and Levi...

Yes, I am wondering the same, why didn't they getting married yet?
 
jillio said:
Yes, that's true. But the rate of divorce for couples that married as teens, and especially those that married just because of pregnancy, is still the highest of all the rates. Why? Because teens are not prepared to enter into lifelong committment to others...whether it is a life partner or a child. Teen parents also have higher rates of abuse and neglect of children, as well as death resulting from that abuse and neglect.
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Using mothers' age at time of birth of the abused child, the younger the mother, the greater the rate of child abuse. However, there was not a significant relationship when mother's age was measured as age at time of abuse. Large families and minority children were also found to be at greater risk of abuse. The findings have implications for prevention of physical abuse at both the microsystem and macrosystem level. At the micro level, the findings confirm the importance of making contraceptives and abortion widely available so that motherhood can be postponed and family size can be controlled.
http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/cu...&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED317906
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Yes, that's right.


That's why I am pro-choice and respect women's choice. Fetus removal is better than abuse babies, toddlers, small children...

 
Do you actually believe that all teenagers listen to their parents, follow their rules, their methods? I got news for you, The younger generations are getting rude, obnoxious, and downright disrespectful those days,

I don't know about anyone else, but I do believe I see the word "all" in that quote. Likewise, the phrase "younger generations" is an all inclusive term.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, very true...

My mother is also teenage mother as well. She had me when she was 17 years old and end to divorce ... struggle with life...social assistance...

From read the articles, seem to me that it's shotgun wedding, Palin plans for her daughter and Levi...

Yes, I am wondering the same, why didn't they getting married yet?
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Maybe Levi has cold feet? Maybe she's not really pregnant and that belly we see is from having a child 5 months ago? Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised if we heard a tale of an "unfortunate miscarriage" before a wedding ever takes place. There are just too many inconsistencies in the whole story.
 
Cheri said:
No, I did not, I asked Byrdie a question... you think all teenagers listen to their parents??. Please read the entire sentence, don't take words out of context. :roll:
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Your own word:

You gotta be kidding me, Do you actually believe that all teenagers listen to their parents, follow their rules, their methods? I got news for you, The younger generations are getting rude, obnoxious, and downright disrespectful those days, and are you saying it's 100 percent the parent's fault? Interesting input.

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jillio said:
Maybe Levi has cold feet? Maybe she's not really pregnant and that belly we see is from having a child 5 months ago? Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised if we heard a tale of an "unfortunate miscarriage" before a wedding ever takes place. There are just too many inconsistencies in the whole story.
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Wait and see until December, then we will know more... :hmm:
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, that's right.


That's why I am pro-choice and respect women's choice. Fetus removal is better than abuse babies, toddlers, small children...
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JMO, people could better use their time attempting to remedy the problems of the abused and neglected chidlren that are already walking this earth than to waste so much time attempting to interfere with a woman's right to make choices over her own reproductive health. Do something positive instead of something negative.
 
Jiro said:
that's quite a lot of assumption there. It sounds as if you want the schools to teach about abstinence. MOST of time - Proper Education works. Of course there are some failure rates but the benefits outweigh the cons.

Yes the teens will try out sex regardless of sex education program but don't you think it's best if they were educated about the sex - the consequence, the protection, STDs? It's a win-win for all. It will either teach teens to practice safe sex (thus reducing pregnancy rate) or to delay having sex until adult age.

I have several friends who are open with their parents. Open Mind, Understanding, and Proper Educations are key to better relationship & communication between kids and parents. If you want teens to talk to you about sex, then parents should not be hard-ass about it and preach about abstinence or any such thing..... like Palin
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:gpost:
 
Originally Posted by Maria

Ok, tell me what are you gonna do to make them to be honest with you to prevent it from all this happenin' ? What, if it is too late for you ? What are you gonna do about it when you knew that it can not be fixed, but to face it and move on -- just to be there for your teen child until he/she is fully responsible ?
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Jiro123 answer is an exact same as mine. Open communicate, listen, respect and understanding, and proper education.

Jiro said:
there is no "one answer for all." Every circumstance is different. Like I said - open mind, understanding, and proper education are key to nearly all scenarios. What do you think why people seek counselors? not because they have professional knowledge. it's because they are open mind and very understanding. They help and educate people to understand the situation better. Don't you wish we have those early on at schools?

1. Palin was probably a hard-ass and has a strong view on abstinence.
Result? her daughter's pregnant and unmarried

2. Your daughter's school taught abstinence program.
Result? Your daughter had a teen pregnancy

3. My old close friend's family is very Catholic and strict.
Result? He was a very risky fornicator and does not practice safe sex most of time. His sister is probably a fornicator too behind their backs.

Conclusion - Abstinence does not work. Banning does not work. Strict Rule does not work. Hiding information/education does not work.
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Exactly!
 
jillio said:
JMO, people could better use their time attempting to remedy the problems of the abused and neglected chidlren that are already walking this earth than to waste so much time attempting to interfere with a woman's right to make choices over her own reproductive health. Do something positive instead of something negative.
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Yes, they should think twice and positive either they feel ready to be parenthood etc before prepare to have a baby, not just say that I want a baby... because ... I want to be young mother... because before I am too old.... etc. etc. because ... because... it's negative... positive something like... love, care, attention, responsiblites, value time for them... feel ready to be parenthood...
 
shel90 said:
Exactly...we, private citizens, are entitled to our own privacy and have our ways of dealing with issues but Palin is expecting to be a leader so she opened herself up to the public. I see that the debates arent really about her daughter pregnancy but more of how Palin views it and how she will address it especially when she has strong beliefs about this kind of issue.
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Exactly!
 
jillio said:
Following the candidates and conventions. Where have you been? She specifically referred to her son and her pregnant daughter in her speeches. She is using them as poster children. If she doesn't want them scutinized, she needs to leave them out of her campaign.
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Bingo!!!!!!!

Like what Obama said, leave children out of political issues...

What and how Palin and McCain did make no sense to me... At first they asked the media (people) to respect daughter's privacy and then "humiliate" her pregnant daughter and boyfriend to the public...

 
Liebling:-))) said:
Your own word:

You gotta be kidding me, Do you actually believe that all teenagers listen to their parents, follow their rules, their methods? I got news for you, The younger generations are getting rude, obnoxious, and downright disrespectful those days, and are you saying it's 100 percent the parent's fault? Interesting input.

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Palin's Daughter--Pregnant!
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And that's another post, You quote my second post, not my first post. You need to make yourself more clear, if you want to quote me, quote the right post!
 
Cheri said:
And that's another post, You quote my second post, not my first post. You need to make yourself more clear, if you want to quote me, quote the right post!
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Another post? Huh? YES, it's YOUR own post. I pasted an exact what you wrote in your response to question him. I can't see anything what and how I twist/misinterpreted your post?
 
Never mind, I think I'm fucked up here Lol Sorry Liebling, I was reading the wrong post. My mistake.

And that was a question to Byrdie. :)
 
Cheri said:
Never mind, I think I'm fucked up here Lol Sorry Liebling, I was reading the wrong post. My mistake.

And that was a question to Byrdie. :)
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I have scrolled back to 4 pages ago and still trying to locate your question.

What post number was it sweetie? :)
 
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