Mom Angry That Male Vice Principal Spanked Her Daughter

Jiro said:
precisely my point!
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Then you would have no reason to get upset about a male principal paddling a female student.


The basis of my concern isn't sexual arousal. it's simply not appropriate. period.
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If there is no sexual arousal happening (as you stated), then what is the basis for it not being appropriate?
 
Reba said:
Then you would have no reason to get upset about a male principal paddling a female student.



If there is no sexual arousal happening (as you stated), then what is the basis for it not being appropriate?
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then why do all (I pretty much believe it's all) schools which have corporal punishment have a policy saying that it must be done by faculty member of same sex as student? why do TSA have same policy too?
 
Jiro said:
how? you repeatedly stated that I'm not answering your question... so how can you "might" agree with me then?

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That's the point. You haven't stated your reasoning therefore I might agree with it and I might not. :dunno: Like I said, it wasn't a debate....just a question.
 
TXgolfer said:
That's the point. You haven't stated your reasoning therefore I might agree with it and I might not. :dunno: Like I said, it wasn't a debate....just a question.
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yea ok :dunno:
 
Jiro said:
then why do all (I pretty much believe it's all) schools which have corporal punishment have a policy saying that it must be done by faculty member of same sex as student? why do TSA have same policy too?
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All schools do NOT have a policy that say it must be done by a faculty member of the same sex.

I have no idea how TSA determines their policies; lots of them don't make any sense.
 
Reba said:
All schools do NOT have a policy that say it must be done by a faculty member of the same sex.
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I have a feeling that most (or all) schools do have corporal punishments done by same sex of student even if it's not stated in their policy.

Reba said:
I have no idea how TSA determines their policies; lots of them don't make any sense.
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:lol: that I can agree with you!
 
Jiro said:
I have a feeling that most (or all) schools do have corporal punishments done by same sex of student even if it's not stated in their policy.
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You need to check facts and not depend on feelings.

The person administrating corporal punishment is usually assigned by title, not sex.
 
Reba said:
You need to check facts and not depend on feelings.

The person administrating corporal punishment is usually assigned by title, not sex.
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oh you do know the fact that most schools do not have a policy that specifically stated that it should be done by same sex as student?
 
Jiro said:
oh you do know the fact that most schools do not have a policy that specifically stated that it should be done by same sex as student?
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I didn't say that. :)

I do know that they don't all have that policy.
 
Jiro said:
Quote: Originally Posted by impaired
Ok, I see your point.

What I and others fail to understand is how you think it's inapropriate for a male principle to spank a female student, yet you feel it's ok for a homosexual to spank a male student.

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exactly why would it be a problem for a homosexual principal to spank a male student? as far as I'm concerned, that principal is a male. I don't see him as a homosexual male getting sexually aroused for spanking him. there's nothing illegal about a homosexual faculty member spanking a male student. it's within a policy as it stated that the corporal punishment is to be done by same sex gender.
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If his sexual tendencies are towards males then the chances of sexual abuse are greater than if he were straight. So considering this it might be smart to include that in the policy.


Jiro said:
Quote: Originally Posted by impaired You have made references to school policy and "other" policies that restrict who can spank whom. While we understand that you may stand behind these policies, what we really want to know is what your beef is with straight males...

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how about this - why do you think it is appropriate for a male principal to spank a female student?
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First of all, I don't approve of spanking children. But if a parent consents to a male principal spanking their female child I don't see any difference if it were done by a female principle.
 
Reba said:
I didn't say that. :)

I do know that they don't all have that policy.
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Perhaps not...but spanking should be abolished in ALL schools....Why any Parent would allow someone to hit/spank or even slap their child is beyond me!....Discipline begins and should end at home.
 
impaired said:
If his sexual tendencies are towards males then the chances of sexual abuse are greater than if he were straight.
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I disagree. I'm not interested in statistics or coulda woulda shoulda. Sexual Abuse is illegal - regardless of sexual orientation, age, gender, or race. PERIOD.

impaired said:
So considering this it might be smart to include that in the policy.
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that would be a violation of federal anti-discrimination law and plus it will be prone to unnecessary lawsuits.

impaired said:
First of all, I don't approve of spanking children. But if a parent consents to a male principal spanking their female child I don't see any difference if it were done by a female principle.
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but this mother consented to it because she knew the policy stated that it would be done by same sex as student.
 
Texas district's new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, female

SPRINGTOWN, Texas - Like many schools in Texas, "spare the rod and spoil the child" might be considered the motto at Springtown High School.

But when two teenage girls there reportedly suffered bruises after being paddled by male assistant principals, some parents complained. They weren't upset about the punishment itself, but instead that the school violated the policy requiring an educator of the same sex as the student to dole out the paddling.

So the school district has changed its policy — to expand, not abolish, corporal punishment. Board members voted Monday night to let administrators paddle students of the opposite sex, after Superintendent Michael Kelley cited a lack of women administrators to carry out spankings.

The new policy says a same-gender school official must witness the paddling, which is just one "swat," and that parents also can request one spanking per semester. In all cases, a parent must give written permission and request it in lieu of another punishment, such as suspension or detention.

"I personally think Texas is getting a black eye because of this," Kelley told The Associated Press. "People are assuming a school district can do whatever it wants because of this. That's not the case."

Texas law allows schools to use corporal punishment unless a parent or guardian prohibits it in writing. The issue of the student or educator's gender is not addressed, and there are no state standards on the minimum or maximum ages of students who can be spanked, according to the Texas Education Agency.

Cathi Watt, whose daughter was one of the two girls recently paddled, said Tuesday that she's OK with paddlings in schools "because they need it once in a while, and I got them when I was a kid." But she said the male administrator used too much force, so she does not support the new policy.

Watt said her 16-year-old daughter, Jada, deserved to be spanked after she spoke sarcastically to a teacher and an assistant principal, "but she did not deserve to be bruised."

"And what kind of message does it send these boys?" Watt said. "Is it telling them that it's OK to hit a girl?"

Texas is one of 19 states allowing schools to spank students, but 97 of the nation's 100 largest school districts have banned corporal punishment, according to the Center for Effective Discipline.

About 75 per cent of the state's school districts use corporal punishment, including Springtown, a town of about 2,700 located about 30 miles northwest of Fort Worth, according to People Opposed to Paddling Students, a group based in Houston. Some of the major districts, including Fort Worth, don't paddle students.

"It is never OK to hit a child. ... Men should not be padding teenage girls, because there is a sexual connotation with teen girls but also with teen boys," said Jimmy Dunne, president of People Opposed to Paddling Students.

State Rep. Alma Allen, D-Houston, thinks schools should never spank children, but her bill to abolish corporal punishment in Texas schools never passed. She said the compromised version of her bill, which did become law, was that parents could opt in.

"Parents can choose whether to spank their children at home," Allen said. "When you send a child to school, it should be a place to be motivated — not a place to be beaten."

Texas district's new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, female students - Yahoo! News
 
I think though how some of these children getting a swat for backtalking a teacher or cheating a test is ridiculous.

I'm not in public schools but I know if this were us, we would rather get in trouble at school than at home. I asked my sister about this and she said the school district sent out a form the parents had to sign and the school had to get it back. If not, the school called home. (Not that my parents could hear the phone but still...)
 
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