Israel and Palestine

[Jiro]

or maybe this?

Second Intifada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

for proving my point. At what point should we stop? until both countries are annihilated?

who should take a high road?

 

[Jiro]

In retaliation to being bombed.

Post #56.

 

[Foxrac]

In retaliation to being bombed. (your anti-semitism just came glaring through the facade)

Please refrain from labeling anti-semitism against members whatever you don't agree.

The attacking isn't welcomed in my thread, period.

 

[Jiro]

Please refrain from labeling anti-semitism against members whatever you don't agree.

The attacking isn't welcomed in my thread, period.

kindly. I am deeply confused by his reaction. I'm allowed to make a free opinion and yet I can't and I get labeled as anti-Semitic, communist, socialist, etc? sounds like a confused racist

 

[Steinhauer]

for proving my point. At what point should we stop? until both countries are annihilated?

who should take a high road?

Well, your point did not include something.

If the Arabs would lay down their arms, there will be no more war. If the Israelis lay down their arms, there will be no more Israel.

 

[Steinhauer]

kindly. I am deeply confused by his reaction. I'm allowed to make a free opinion and yet I can't and I get labeled as anti-Semitic, communist, socialist, etc? sounds like a confused racist

I posted an article by the Anti Defamation League regarding the comments you made that are considered anti semitic. Please take the time to read it.

 

[Jiro]

I posted an article by the Anti Defamation League regarding the comments you made that are considered anti semitic. Please take the time to read it.

not interested in it. and I don't believe in blind patriotism. beside - I don't pledge my allegiance to Israel. I answer to America and American only and as an American citizen and taxpayer, it would behoove Israelis to rethink its scale of retaliation because we do not want another war at our expense.

I've posted a link about First Amendment. Please take all the time in the world to read it - First Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute

 

[Foxrac]

kindly. I am deeply confused by his reaction. I'm allowed to make a free opinion and yet I can't and I get labeled as anti-Semitic, communist, socialist, etc? sounds like a confused racist

No problem. Yup, there are some members attacking others and made a wrongful label so I asked them to knock it out.

 

[Jiro]

Well, your point did not include something.

If the Arabs would lay down their arms, there will be no more war. If the Israelis lay down their arms, there will be no more Israel.

arms? what arms? Arabs have only rocks and Israelis have tanks, fighter jets, and M16.

You are confusing Arabs with terrorist groups.

 

[Foxrac]

I posted an article by the Anti Defamation League regarding the comments you made that are considered anti semitic. Please take the time to read it.

See #63 and please stop calling "anti-semitic", so that's enough.

Let discuss in civil matter and quit being label anyone as "....".

 

[Steinhauer]

not interested in it. and I don't believe in blind patriotism. beside - I don't pledge my allegiance to Israel. I answer to America and American only and as an American citizen and taxpayer, it would behoove Israelis to rethink its scale of retaliation because we do not want another war at our expense.

I've posted a link about First Amendment. Please take all the time in the world to read it - First Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute

That is absolutely fine by me. Did you know that Israel is an American ally and we fund them when they go after terrorists? As an American citizen, I do not believe in turning my back on my friends.

or, starting a smear campaign against them. Perhaps refusing to read an article by the ADL is a sign of ignorance? I have the same right to free speech that you have

Maybe you feel that your free speech is somehow ...freer? But it is based on a serious lack of experience.

 

[Jiro]

That is absolutely fine by me. Did you know that Israel is an American ally and we fund them when they go after terrorists?

did you know Israelis have used American weapons illegally such as cluster bomb on people and they were severely condemned by Americans?

did you know Americans sent them bastardized version of American fighter jets because they did not trust Israelis with the powerful & deadly technology?

did you know the President has repeatedly told Israelis to try to exercise with restraint?

 

[Jiro]

I have the same right to free speech that you have

good. notice that I did not resort to labeling you or questioning you or trying to shut you out as you did for exercising your right to free speech.

Maybe you feel that your free speech is somehow ...freer? But it is based on a serious lack of experience.

what experience do you have that I do not have?

 

[Foxrac]

Steinhauer,

Palestinians have deal with TWO PROBLEMS - 1) HAMAS AND 2) ISRAEL

When Hamas and Israel started conflict that put many Palestinians life at greater risk, so I recall about majority of Palestinians are child. It is very bad taste for Israel to start attacking against them because of situation with Hamas.

I think it will be smart if Israel try to eradicate Hamas and make Palestinian life so safer, however I don't think it will happen in anytime soon.

 

[Steinhauer]

Steinhauer,

Palestinians have deal with TWO PROBLEMS - 1) HAMAS AND 2) ISRAEL

When Hamas and Israel started conflict that put many Palestinians life at greater risk, so I recall about majority of Palestinians are child. It is very bad taste for Israel to start attacking against them because of situation with Hamas.

I think it will be smart if Israel try to eradicate Hamas and make Palestinian life so safer, however I don't think it will happen in anytime soon.

I know of more than several Israelis that live in peace with Palestinians. I also know of intermarriage couples - Jewish/Palestinian

Trust me, more Israelis reach out to Palestinians than vice versa.

A good movie you should rent is

For My Father (2008) - IMDb

It has a very sad ending.

 

[Jiro]

Steinhauer,

Palestinians have deal with TWO PROBLEMS - 1) HAMAS AND 2) ISRAEL

When Hamas and Israel started conflict that put many Palestinians life at greater risk, so I recall about majority of Palestinians are child. It is very bad taste for Israel to start attacking against them because of situation with Hamas.

I think it will be smart if Israel try to eradicate Hamas and make Palestinian life so safer, however I don't think it will happen in anytime soon.

I think it would be better for all if Israel rethinks its aggressive policy and Palestinians to eliminate Hamas and condemns any violent acts toward Israelis.

 

[Jiro]

I know of more than several Israelis that live in peace with Palestinians. I also know of intermarriage couples - Jewish/Palestinian

Trust me, more Israelis reach out to Palestinians than vice versa.

A good movie you should rent is

For My Father (2008) - IMDb

what if I told you that I know of more than several Arabs that live in peace with Jewish people and brutalized by Jewish people? and what if I told you that I know of some Jewish people who believe some Israeli government is lunatic like... Zionists?

trust me - there's something that Israelis are not telling you. like I said.... the history is written by the victors. I don't need to watch a movie when I can simply have a conversation with them instead to get the story.

 

[Foxrac]

No surprise because telling about history can be very ugly, very ugly.

 

[Steinhauer]

what if I told you that I know of more than several Arabs that live in peace with Jewish people and brutalized by Jewish people? and what if I told you that I know of some Jewish people who believe some Israeli government is lunatic like... Zionists?

trust me - there's something that Israelis are not telling you. like I said.... the history is written by the victors. I don't need to watch a movie when I can simply have a conversation with them instead to get the story.

Zionist is the key word there. I am very familiar with it.

I also have several Arab friends that believe "Zionists" drink the blood of Arabs each spring in a Jewish holiday :roll:

they believe it like it is the gospel truth.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/blood.asp

 

[Jiro]

Zionist is the key word there. I am very familiar with it.

I also have several Arab friends that believe "Zionists" drink the blood of Arabs each spring in a Jewish holiday :roll:

they believe it like it is the gospel truth.

that's actually believable. that's what they're doing right now. drinking the blood of Arabs by bombing them everyday.