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By Sam Quinones, Times Staff Writer
July 28, 2006
With two teenage daughters at home and triplets still in diapers, Angela Magdaleno's family overflowed from a one-bedroom apartment in South Los Angeles that they strained to afford.
Diapers had to be changed 15 times a day, feedings held every three hours. One triplet, 3-year-old Alfredo Jr., needed special attention because he was born with liquid on his brain and partially paralyzed.
And that was before the quadruplets arrived.
On July 6, Magdaleno gave birth to two boys and two girls, drawing national media attention as a bewildered mother of 10 (with nine living at home). Now, she and her husband, Alfredo Anzaldo, 44, must figure out how to provide for everyone on Anzaldo's maximum pay of $400 a week as a carpet installer.
As cameras flashed two weeks ago, capturing the 40-year-old mother with her newest progeny, she appeared dazed, even morose. They'd have to leave their $600-a-month apartment for something bigger. They'd have to buy a minivan with room for four more car seats.
"I was afraid," she said. "I still feel like I can't believe it."
U.S. immigrants' stories often are about reinvention and newfound prosperity, about leaving behind poverty and limitations.
But that is not Magdaleno's story.
Both Magdaleno and Anzaldo are illegal immigrants, settled for years in an immigrant enclave. Magdaleno has the same number of children as her parents, who were peasant farmers in Mexico. Like her parents, she is living in poverty and struggling to provide for her family.
"It's not sweet," said her 36-year-old sister, Alejandra. "It's very sad. The life for girls back there in Mexico is the same as the one Angela has now. They marry and have children, and that's their lives."
Neither Magdaleno nor her husband speaks English, though she has been in the United States 22 years and he 28. Even her teenage daughters speak mostly Spanish; their English vocabulary is limited.
Yet all of Magdaleno's 10 children are U.S. citizens. The triplets receive subsidized school lunches. All the youngsters have had their healthcare bills covered by Medi-Cal, the state and federal healthcare program for the poor.
Alfredo Jr. had been hospitalized all his life until recently. He's had three state-funded brain operations and will require several more, the family said. The couple receive $700 in monthly Social Security payments to help with his medical needs.
"I thank this country that they gave me Medi-Cal," Magdaleno said. "There's nothing like that in Mexico."
Magdaleno's existence contrasts sharply with that of her younger siblings, who followed her to Los Angeles but then left. They have settled in Lexington, Ky., had no more than two children each and built better lives than they had known before. Four bought houses. Their children speak English fluently.
Magdaleno's sisters struggle in vain to understand her. "She still thinks like people in Mexico — that's what I think," said her 38-year-old sister, Justina. "You have to think first of your living children instead of thinking of having more."
Magdaleno struggles to explain. She said she was wearing a birth-control patch to keep from getting pregnant, then took it off when it made her nauseated.
"I didn't want any more children," said Magdaleno, who used fertility drugs to conceive the triplets but said she did not use them in the case of the quadruplets.
"Four is too many. I'm still trying to believe this happened to me."
Angela Magdaleno's story began as many Mexican immigrant stories do: in a village where work was scarce and wages were low.
She grew up in Los Positos, in the central Mexican state of Jalisco, the eldest of 10. For girls, life consisted of hard work, little schooling, no birth control and thus, said Alejandra, raising "all the children God gives you."
Angela and Justina left school at fifth grade to work in fields and tortilla shops to help support their family.
In 1984, hoping to make more money to send home, the girls were the first Magdalenos to cross illegally into the United States. Angela was 19. The sisters found work in sewing factories, and apartments in the growing Latino immigrant communities of South Los Angeles.
Over the years, their eight siblings followed them.
Angela married, had two daughters, then divorced.
In 1990, she met Anzaldo, an immigrant from the state of Nayarit, Mexico, who had three daughters from relationships with two women — one in the U.S. and one in Mexico. Anzaldo was working in auto shops.
The couple married in 1992 and had a daughter together.
Magdaleno then had a tubal ligation. She thought she was done having children. But a few years later, things changed.
Anzaldo had only daughters, and the couple were getting older. He saw his chance at having a son slipping away.
"I wanted a son," he said, "because I didn't have one."
Magdaleno too had always wanted a boy. Anzaldo paid for an operation to reverse Magdaleno's tubal ligation. The couple thought they might return to Mexico after the child was born.
But for several years, she didn't get pregnant, Magdaleno said.
So she asked a woman who returned periodically to Mexico to bring her back fertility drugs. The woman supplied her with various pills and injections over several years, Magdaleno said.
"I took a lot," she said. "I don't remember what they're called."
Finally, in 2002, Magdaleno got pregnant — with triplets.
Talk of returning to Mexico ceased when their son, Alfredo, was born with hydrocephalus.
Their life became cramped and chaotic, with seven people crammed into their one-bedroom apartment.
Joanna, Magdaleno's oldest daughter, now 20, dropped out of high school and moved out with a boyfriend about the time Magdaleno became pregnant with the triplets. She now works in a factory making dolls for Disneyland, her mother said.
As Angela was having children, her siblings were undergoing a transformation of a different kind. They were slowly leaving Los Angeles.
Her sister Alejandra was the first to leave. In Los Angeles, she and her husband were barely able to make ends meet. As in Mexico, "there was little work and it's poorly paid," she said.
Eight years ago, she and her family moved to Kentucky, where a friend said there was more work and were fewer Mexican immigrants bidding down the wages for unskilled jobs.
In Kentucky, Alejandra picked tobacco. The work was hard and she didn't know the language. But soon, life improved. Over the years, she invited her siblings to join her. One sister married a man who managed a Golden Corral, a chain of all-you-can-eat buffets. Soon several Magdaleno siblings were working in Golden Corrals. Their husbands found work installing windows and as farm-labor contractors. They went to night school to learn English because few people in Lexington speak Spanish.
Today, the Magdalenos in Lexington earn more than they did in Los Angeles, in a city where the cost of living is lower. Kentucky is now their promised land, and they talk about California the way they used to talk about Mexico.
"What we weren't able to do in many years in California," Alejandra said, "we've done quickly here.
"We're in a state where there's nothing but Americans. The police control the streets. It's clean, no gangs. California now resembles Mexico — everyone thinks like in Mexico. California's broken."
Justina was the last to leave Los Angeles, about the time Angela was pregnant with the triplets.
She and her husband wanted better schools for their sons, 15 and 9.
In Lexington, she said, "at the school there are just people who speak English. It's helped my children a lot."
Justina, who came to the U.S. with Magdaleno, applied for legal residency under the 1986 amnesty law and is now a U.S. citizen. Magdaleno never applied.
The sisters say they have urged Angela to come out to Kentucky — at least to visit. She said she hasn't because her son has been hospitalized so much.
Last year, however, she sent her daughter, Kelly, 17, to Kentucky for several months. Though American born and raised, Kelly hadn't been outside South Los Angeles.
In Lexington, school was hard because few people spoke Spanish, and the city "barely had one Spanish radio station," Kelly said.
Her cousins, she said in English, "use more educational words than here. My cousin is 7 years old, and he has a better reading level than me. He don't see picture books or drawings or anything like that. He just likes books with pure letters."
Girls from Mexican-immigrant families in Kentucky, she saw, were in their mid-20s and still didn't have children.
"I said, 'Damn, that's weird,' " Kelly said. "The girls right here in Los Angeles are like in Mexico. There are girls that are 14, they got kids."
The family in Kentucky "is more in the United States than" her mother, Kelly concluded. "They want a better education for the kids. With less kids there's better possibility of you having something."
Magdaleno, meanwhile, was raising six other children and using a variety of birth control methods — the latest being the contraceptive patch.
She said she was stunned when doctors told her that she was carrying quadruplets.
"She didn't do this on purpose," said Dr. Kathryn Shaw, who delivered the couple's triplets and their quadruplets. "She was not at all elated, and not excited about the fact that they were quadruplets."
All are healthy, Shaw said, but weighed between 3 and 4 pounds at birth. They remained at White Memorial Medical Center in East Los Angeles long enough to gain weight, then came home this week.
Now Denise, Destiny, Andrew and Andrey are with the rest of the family.
For Angela Magdaleno, their arrival — 22 years after she left Mexico and entered the United States hoping for a different life — has brought her full circle. Her older daughters, like girls in Mexico, have been drafted into helping raise the new children.
"I don't have anything," she said. "Just children."
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-quadruplets28jul28,0,5465147,full.story
July 28, 2006
With two teenage daughters at home and triplets still in diapers, Angela Magdaleno's family overflowed from a one-bedroom apartment in South Los Angeles that they strained to afford.
Diapers had to be changed 15 times a day, feedings held every three hours. One triplet, 3-year-old Alfredo Jr., needed special attention because he was born with liquid on his brain and partially paralyzed.
And that was before the quadruplets arrived.
On July 6, Magdaleno gave birth to two boys and two girls, drawing national media attention as a bewildered mother of 10 (with nine living at home). Now, she and her husband, Alfredo Anzaldo, 44, must figure out how to provide for everyone on Anzaldo's maximum pay of $400 a week as a carpet installer.
As cameras flashed two weeks ago, capturing the 40-year-old mother with her newest progeny, she appeared dazed, even morose. They'd have to leave their $600-a-month apartment for something bigger. They'd have to buy a minivan with room for four more car seats.
"I was afraid," she said. "I still feel like I can't believe it."
U.S. immigrants' stories often are about reinvention and newfound prosperity, about leaving behind poverty and limitations.
But that is not Magdaleno's story.
Both Magdaleno and Anzaldo are illegal immigrants, settled for years in an immigrant enclave. Magdaleno has the same number of children as her parents, who were peasant farmers in Mexico. Like her parents, she is living in poverty and struggling to provide for her family.
"It's not sweet," said her 36-year-old sister, Alejandra. "It's very sad. The life for girls back there in Mexico is the same as the one Angela has now. They marry and have children, and that's their lives."
Neither Magdaleno nor her husband speaks English, though she has been in the United States 22 years and he 28. Even her teenage daughters speak mostly Spanish; their English vocabulary is limited.
Yet all of Magdaleno's 10 children are U.S. citizens. The triplets receive subsidized school lunches. All the youngsters have had their healthcare bills covered by Medi-Cal, the state and federal healthcare program for the poor.
Alfredo Jr. had been hospitalized all his life until recently. He's had three state-funded brain operations and will require several more, the family said. The couple receive $700 in monthly Social Security payments to help with his medical needs.
"I thank this country that they gave me Medi-Cal," Magdaleno said. "There's nothing like that in Mexico."
Magdaleno's existence contrasts sharply with that of her younger siblings, who followed her to Los Angeles but then left. They have settled in Lexington, Ky., had no more than two children each and built better lives than they had known before. Four bought houses. Their children speak English fluently.
Magdaleno's sisters struggle in vain to understand her. "She still thinks like people in Mexico — that's what I think," said her 38-year-old sister, Justina. "You have to think first of your living children instead of thinking of having more."
Magdaleno struggles to explain. She said she was wearing a birth-control patch to keep from getting pregnant, then took it off when it made her nauseated.
"I didn't want any more children," said Magdaleno, who used fertility drugs to conceive the triplets but said she did not use them in the case of the quadruplets.
"Four is too many. I'm still trying to believe this happened to me."
Angela Magdaleno's story began as many Mexican immigrant stories do: in a village where work was scarce and wages were low.
She grew up in Los Positos, in the central Mexican state of Jalisco, the eldest of 10. For girls, life consisted of hard work, little schooling, no birth control and thus, said Alejandra, raising "all the children God gives you."
Angela and Justina left school at fifth grade to work in fields and tortilla shops to help support their family.
In 1984, hoping to make more money to send home, the girls were the first Magdalenos to cross illegally into the United States. Angela was 19. The sisters found work in sewing factories, and apartments in the growing Latino immigrant communities of South Los Angeles.
Over the years, their eight siblings followed them.
Angela married, had two daughters, then divorced.
In 1990, she met Anzaldo, an immigrant from the state of Nayarit, Mexico, who had three daughters from relationships with two women — one in the U.S. and one in Mexico. Anzaldo was working in auto shops.
The couple married in 1992 and had a daughter together.
Magdaleno then had a tubal ligation. She thought she was done having children. But a few years later, things changed.
Anzaldo had only daughters, and the couple were getting older. He saw his chance at having a son slipping away.
"I wanted a son," he said, "because I didn't have one."
Magdaleno too had always wanted a boy. Anzaldo paid for an operation to reverse Magdaleno's tubal ligation. The couple thought they might return to Mexico after the child was born.
But for several years, she didn't get pregnant, Magdaleno said.
So she asked a woman who returned periodically to Mexico to bring her back fertility drugs. The woman supplied her with various pills and injections over several years, Magdaleno said.
"I took a lot," she said. "I don't remember what they're called."
Finally, in 2002, Magdaleno got pregnant — with triplets.
Talk of returning to Mexico ceased when their son, Alfredo, was born with hydrocephalus.
Their life became cramped and chaotic, with seven people crammed into their one-bedroom apartment.
Joanna, Magdaleno's oldest daughter, now 20, dropped out of high school and moved out with a boyfriend about the time Magdaleno became pregnant with the triplets. She now works in a factory making dolls for Disneyland, her mother said.
As Angela was having children, her siblings were undergoing a transformation of a different kind. They were slowly leaving Los Angeles.
Her sister Alejandra was the first to leave. In Los Angeles, she and her husband were barely able to make ends meet. As in Mexico, "there was little work and it's poorly paid," she said.
Eight years ago, she and her family moved to Kentucky, where a friend said there was more work and were fewer Mexican immigrants bidding down the wages for unskilled jobs.
In Kentucky, Alejandra picked tobacco. The work was hard and she didn't know the language. But soon, life improved. Over the years, she invited her siblings to join her. One sister married a man who managed a Golden Corral, a chain of all-you-can-eat buffets. Soon several Magdaleno siblings were working in Golden Corrals. Their husbands found work installing windows and as farm-labor contractors. They went to night school to learn English because few people in Lexington speak Spanish.
Today, the Magdalenos in Lexington earn more than they did in Los Angeles, in a city where the cost of living is lower. Kentucky is now their promised land, and they talk about California the way they used to talk about Mexico.
"What we weren't able to do in many years in California," Alejandra said, "we've done quickly here.
"We're in a state where there's nothing but Americans. The police control the streets. It's clean, no gangs. California now resembles Mexico — everyone thinks like in Mexico. California's broken."
Justina was the last to leave Los Angeles, about the time Angela was pregnant with the triplets.
She and her husband wanted better schools for their sons, 15 and 9.
In Lexington, she said, "at the school there are just people who speak English. It's helped my children a lot."
Justina, who came to the U.S. with Magdaleno, applied for legal residency under the 1986 amnesty law and is now a U.S. citizen. Magdaleno never applied.
The sisters say they have urged Angela to come out to Kentucky — at least to visit. She said she hasn't because her son has been hospitalized so much.
Last year, however, she sent her daughter, Kelly, 17, to Kentucky for several months. Though American born and raised, Kelly hadn't been outside South Los Angeles.
In Lexington, school was hard because few people spoke Spanish, and the city "barely had one Spanish radio station," Kelly said.
Her cousins, she said in English, "use more educational words than here. My cousin is 7 years old, and he has a better reading level than me. He don't see picture books or drawings or anything like that. He just likes books with pure letters."
Girls from Mexican-immigrant families in Kentucky, she saw, were in their mid-20s and still didn't have children.
"I said, 'Damn, that's weird,' " Kelly said. "The girls right here in Los Angeles are like in Mexico. There are girls that are 14, they got kids."
The family in Kentucky "is more in the United States than" her mother, Kelly concluded. "They want a better education for the kids. With less kids there's better possibility of you having something."
Magdaleno, meanwhile, was raising six other children and using a variety of birth control methods — the latest being the contraceptive patch.
She said she was stunned when doctors told her that she was carrying quadruplets.
"She didn't do this on purpose," said Dr. Kathryn Shaw, who delivered the couple's triplets and their quadruplets. "She was not at all elated, and not excited about the fact that they were quadruplets."
All are healthy, Shaw said, but weighed between 3 and 4 pounds at birth. They remained at White Memorial Medical Center in East Los Angeles long enough to gain weight, then came home this week.
Now Denise, Destiny, Andrew and Andrey are with the rest of the family.
For Angela Magdaleno, their arrival — 22 years after she left Mexico and entered the United States hoping for a different life — has brought her full circle. Her older daughters, like girls in Mexico, have been drafted into helping raise the new children.
"I don't have anything," she said. "Just children."
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-quadruplets28jul28,0,5465147,full.story
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I have nothing against immigrants, even illegals, but...
She shouldn't have had her tubal ligation reversed. Now she's in WAY over her head. I don't care if it's because "she wanted a boy, her husband wanted a boy". I feel sorry for their kids.
She shouldn't have had her tubal ligation reversed. Now she's in WAY over her head. I don't care if it's because "she wanted a boy, her husband wanted a boy". I feel sorry for their kids.
There is no excuse for this:
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wow interesting thread here...
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I'm glad that immigrant reform bill is failed by senate for some reason, I had checked some of list that can be harm to legal immigrants and ask some citizens to proof since some people don't know if they are citizen or not.
Now, we need find other idea to prevent illegal immigrants from across into USA without harm to legal immigrant or citizens, wait and see about what happen.
Now, we need find other idea to prevent illegal immigrants from across into USA without harm to legal immigrant or citizens, wait and see about what happen.
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LovelyBlkGal, it does same happen to me, I was pissed at him after talked about bad thing on latino and homosexual, I don't like his way, in entire of AD forum.
Now, you are safe after he went out for good.
Now, you are safe after he went out for good.
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Well, I am not against immigrants people from all over the world coming to america. Just remeber that america was suppose to be about freedom. A freedom of choices to make, a freedom to have a better life, a freedom of speech. Immigrants people are not the only one causes crimes here in america. Just remember that american people also cause crimes too. It would make no different. I imagine if you were immigrant person and say south america have so much killing and war down there. Would you want to live like that? would you rather come to america to be away from that kind of life? Think about that. Third world countires are always having people getting killed every day. I don't blame them if they want their children to have better life in america and to be safe. Just remember that the indians were here first when the white man world took over. Tsk tsk.
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Hey Reba..
Thought you want to read. Those situation occurred in San Diego and TJ (Tijuana) within one month (Sept.).
A Tijuana police officer was arrested trying to smuggle $50,000 worth of cocaine into the United States on Tuesday night, U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said yesterday.
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- Tijuana police officer held in drug-smuggling attempt
Three suspected illegal immigrants, including a 10-year-old child, were found trapped in the underside of a van early Friday morning after they were abandoned and heard screaming for help.
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Metro -- Suspected illegal immigrants found welded into van
More than 40 people accused of smuggling illegal drugs across the U.S.-Mexico border have been arrested as a result of a multiagency sweep, authorities announced yesterday
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- Drug smuggling probe yields dozens of arrests
Several hours after a state preventive police officer was ambushed and killed Monday night, gunmen opened fire on a building used by federal police.
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- Gunmen open fire on Tijuana federal police building
Border Patrol Mourns Agent Killed In Extreme Heat
Border Patrol Mourns Agent Killed In Extreme Heat - Local News Story - KNSD | San Diego
This is from Los Angeles.
Guns, Drugs Found In SoCal Day Care
Guns, Drugs Found In SoCal Day Care - Local News Story - KNSD | San Diego
Thought you want to read. Those situation occurred in San Diego and TJ (Tijuana) within one month (Sept.).
A Tijuana police officer was arrested trying to smuggle $50,000 worth of cocaine into the United States on Tuesday night, U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said yesterday.
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- Tijuana police officer held in drug-smuggling attempt
Three suspected illegal immigrants, including a 10-year-old child, were found trapped in the underside of a van early Friday morning after they were abandoned and heard screaming for help.
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Metro -- Suspected illegal immigrants found welded into van
More than 40 people accused of smuggling illegal drugs across the U.S.-Mexico border have been arrested as a result of a multiagency sweep, authorities announced yesterday
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- Drug smuggling probe yields dozens of arrests
Several hours after a state preventive police officer was ambushed and killed Monday night, gunmen opened fire on a building used by federal police.
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- Gunmen open fire on Tijuana federal police building
Border Patrol Mourns Agent Killed In Extreme Heat
Border Patrol Mourns Agent Killed In Extreme Heat - Local News Story - KNSD | San Diego
This is from Los Angeles.
Guns, Drugs Found In SoCal Day Care
Guns, Drugs Found In SoCal Day Care - Local News Story - KNSD | San Diego
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Ok, according on wikipedia, it's how to explain about between crime and illegal immigrants.
In 1995, there's more crime and less illegal immigrants than in 2006 (for crime rate, that's final for crime data).
In 2006, there's more illegal immigrants and low crime rate than in 1995.
How is make sense? It's true that illegal immigrants can be bad thing as citizen does, both of them can commit crime, no difference but crime rate in 1995 is worse than 2006.
Now, I have nothing to against immigrants, even illegal too but people has opinion to criticize on illegal immigrants, that's their choice, if you can agree or not.
In 1995, there's more crime and less illegal immigrants than in 2006 (for crime rate, that's final for crime data).
In 2006, there's more illegal immigrants and low crime rate than in 1995.
How is make sense? It's true that illegal immigrants can be bad thing as citizen does, both of them can commit crime, no difference but crime rate in 1995 is worse than 2006.
Now, I have nothing to against immigrants, even illegal too but people has opinion to criticize on illegal immigrants, that's their choice, if you can agree or not.
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It is difficult to imagine a government program that has a more profound impact on society than immigration. Large numbers of immigrants and their descendants cannot help but shape the destiny of the country in which they settle. (The terms "immigrant" and "foreign born" are used synonymously in this report.) Even after the original immigrant dies or returns home, his children and descendants will continue to exert a powerful influence on their new country's demographic, political, economic, and cultural life. Examining births to immigrants is therefore important, because it is a way of measuring the scale of immigration and its impact on American society. This is especially true because the U.S. government has chosen to award American citizenship to all persons born in the United States, including those born to temporary visitors or even illegal aliens. As citizens, it seems almost certain that the vast majority of these children will live in America.
Additionally, under current law, the citizenship of these children can be used to prevent their parent's deportation. This is because immigration judges can and do take into account the harm done to American citizens by a deportation. Thus, if many guestworkers or illegal aliens with U.S. citizen children decide to stay in America and fight deportation, their U.S. citizen children give them excellent grounds to do so. It must also be remembered that once these children are adults they have the right as citizens to sponsor their parents for permanent residence without any numerical caps. All of these factors mean that a "temporary" worker program would result in tens of millions of permanent additions to the U.S. population, which is precisely what a temporary worker program is supposed to avoid. But without a careful analysis of birth data of the kind done here, one may not realize this.
Additionally, under current law, the citizenship of these children can be used to prevent their parent's deportation. This is because immigration judges can and do take into account the harm done to American citizens by a deportation. Thus, if many guestworkers or illegal aliens with U.S. citizen children decide to stay in America and fight deportation, their U.S. citizen children give them excellent grounds to do so. It must also be remembered that once these children are adults they have the right as citizens to sponsor their parents for permanent residence without any numerical caps. All of these factors mean that a "temporary" worker program would result in tens of millions of permanent additions to the U.S. population, which is precisely what a temporary worker program is supposed to avoid. But without a careful analysis of birth data of the kind done here, one may not realize this.
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i dont mind with immigrants but illegal immigrants...nope..everywhere McDonald's i went...most of those dont know how to read ENGLISH
..which really pissed me off..honestly i almost hit one guy's face because he had redo my orders 4 times!!! finally they found one woman who can READ english and got my order correct. i totally respect those illegal immigrants who speaks and read ENGLISH period. what is the United State's language?? ENGLISH not spanish... immigrants cant make me learn how to speak/write thier language... if i live in mexico... i WILL respect them anD learn their language but here... they make us to put spanish words up on mcdonalds menu..highway signs.. they got it too far and i dont like it.
..which really pissed me off..honestly i almost hit one guy's face because he had redo my orders 4 times!!! finally they found one woman who can READ english and got my order correct. i totally respect those illegal immigrants who speaks and read ENGLISH period. what is the United State's language?? ENGLISH not spanish... immigrants cant make me learn how to speak/write thier language... if i live in mexico... i WILL respect them anD learn their language but here... they make us to put spanish words up on mcdonalds menu..highway signs.. they got it too far and i dont like it.GarnetTigerMom
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i dont mind with immigrants but illegal immigrants...nope..everywhere McDonald's i went...most of those dont know how to read ENGLISH
well, I heard complaint like that for years and years nothing new. But America have to understand that immigrantions people who don't speak English was not their first langauge. It the same with deaf people that their first langauge was ASL. Every where today have two langauges posted everywhere for them to read. It the same way with Europeans people have two langauges their langauges and English langauges. So you have to deal with that.
Yupp and plus the English is NOT United States official language just yet.. Only some of states adopted English as official language.
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Good grief.