deaf people should get ALONG with hearing people

seem like hearing people need to get along with us.
 
There are various of hearing people and deaf people for their socializes.
Nobody are perfect, just accept the lifestyle.
I am in the middle like left side is hearing world, and right side is deaf world.
Everybody are humans.
 
sr171soars said:
It is with this attitude why they won't...
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I can see it and understand why but why take a few people's bad attitudes and apply it to all of us? Know what I mean? Like some people say that they have no interest in knowing people in the Deaf community but there are a lot of people in it that are nice, intelligent, and mature. Yes, I have had bad experiences with many hearing people growing up but I wont swear off everyone in the hearing world. That's the attitude I dislike from people whether they are deaf or hearing.
 
If we are on Eyeth, and deaf world have large population. Hearing world has small population.
Would that be similar to hearing people what they feel?
 
Alex said:
I don't know if it's me but I find most hearing people to be more friendly than deaf people. :dunno:

P.S. Don't attack me for saying that.
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I agree with you, boss.....Don't know why.

I get along with hearing people most of the time. But I'm always look forward to enter Deaf world anytime I want to.
 
shel90 said:
I can see it and understand why but why take a few people's bad attitudes and apply it to all of us? Know what I mean? Like some people say that they have no interest in knowing people in the Deaf community but there are a lot of people in it that are nice, intelligent, and mature. Yes, I have had bad experiences with many hearing people growing up but I wont swear off everyone in the hearing world. That's the attitude I dislike from people whether they are deaf or hearing.
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Absolutely! I agree with you. I'll clarify a little to be sure we are on the same page. I was simply pointing that it wasn't a one way street but a two way street no matter one's experiences in the world. I'm quite sure that the deaf have more bad experiences with the hearing than vice versa. A part of that is that the majority (i.e., hearing) have no experience nor understand of the issues that the deaf deal with day in day out. Nor do they understand that because one can't hear doesn't mean they can't do anything either. Those that do is simply because either they have been exposed to the deaf or they have that uncommon ability to see a person for what they are regardless of limitations.

What made me make that comment was the "attitude" that somebody owes us something because of bad experiences. I come from a perspective that nobody owes anybody anything regardless of one's life experiences. A simpler way to put this is life is not fair but one got to get up and keep trying to move ahead.
 
sr171soars said:
Absolutely! I agree with you. I'll clarify a little to be sure we are on the same page. I was simply pointing that it wasn't a one way street but a two way street no matter one's experiences in the world. I'm quite sure that the deaf have more bad experiences with the hearing than vice versa. A part of that is that the majority (i.e., hearing) have no experience nor understand of the issues that the deaf deal with day in day out. Nor do they understand that because one can't hear doesn't mean they can't do anything either. Those that do is simply because either they have been exposed to the deaf or they have that uncommon ability to see a person for what they are regardless of limitations.

What made me make that comment was the "attitude" that somebody owes us something because of bad experiences. I come from a perspective that nobody owes anybody anything regardless of one's life experiences. A simpler way to put this is life is not fair but one got to get up and keep trying to move ahead.
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I'm stunned.
 
sr171soars said:
Absolutely! I agree with you. I'll clarify a little to be sure we are on the same page. I was simply pointing that it wasn't a one way street but a two way street no matter one's experiences in the world. I'm quite sure that the deaf have more bad experiences with the hearing than vice versa. A part of that is that the majority (i.e., hearing) have no experience nor understand of the issues that the deaf deal with day in day out. Nor do they understand that because one can't hear doesn't mean they can't do anything either. Those that do is simply because either they have been exposed to the deaf or they have that uncommon ability to see a person for what they are regardless of limitations.

What made me make that comment was the "attitude" that somebody owes us something because of bad experiences. I come from a perspective that nobody owes anybody anything regardless of one's life experiences. A simpler way to put this is life is not fair but one got to get up and keep trying to move ahead.
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True..I dont feel that anyone owes me anything just because I had bad experiences growing up...maybe the specialist tellling my mom that I was too smart for sign language. I admit I have a bad attitude against the oral-only advocates who dont believe in sign language.
 
Sugarpuff said:
If we are on Eyeth, and deaf world have large population. Hearing world has small population.
Would that be similar to hearing people what they feel?
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Absolutely! Cultural reversal. I remember taking a hearing friend to my son's deaf school for the school play. When you walk through the doors of the school, suddenly, everyone is speaking a different language--hearing, deaf, hh--everyone signs. My hearing friend said she had never felt more out of place in her life. That's what deaf people feel in the hearing world on a daily basis.
 
shel90 said:
True..I dont feel that anyone owes me anything just because I had bad experiences growing up...maybe the specialist tellling my mom that I was too smart for sign language. I admit I have a bad attitude against the oral-only advocates who dont believe in sign language.
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But you don't have a bad attitude simply because they are oralists, but because your personal experience has given you insight into the damage that can do, and you don't want to see it continue to have negative effects of deaf kids. That's the difference. Without the experience, you wouldn't have the objection.
 
jillio said:
Absolutely! Cultural reversal. I remember taking a hearing friend to my son's deaf school for the school play. When you walk through the doors of the school, suddenly, everyone is speaking a different language--hearing, deaf, hh--everyone signs. My hearing friend said she had never felt more out of place in her life. That's what deaf people feel in the hearing world on a daily basis.
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True and it applies any situation where the "language" is not one in which one is comfortable. An example my wife (who is hearing) was discombobulated in Cancun on our Honeymoon years ago. Sure there were those who spoke English but Spanish was the language of the day. It was funny in a way as I was totally comfortable in the environment while not knowing much Spanish.
 
Bitterness is a hard thing to get rid of.

I remember discussing something with one of my hearing classmate. She told me if she suddenly became deaf and saw the way world deal with her the way it did with me. She would be a very bitter person. Of course I was little surprised, but it's because I never understood what's it like not to be a outsider. Of course I still hold some bitterness but I am not going to let it rule my life.

So it's kinda hard to ask all deaf people just to drop "they owe us" idea after all what they have went through.

Sort of like how some people in the south states of US still feel the effects of Civil War even though it was more than one hundred years ago.

I am not asking anything from them though. I just wanted them to treat me like I am a human being, that I have the same desires and needs as they do. That's all I am asking from them.

But that's kinda unfair opinion from me because I know how to survive because of chances I have. Many deaf people don't and they still suffer on daily basis so it's reasonable to see that they feel like world owe them something. Or otherwise they will fall because they don't know how to stand up on their feet.
 
There are some people who lost their hearings and became deaf. It is not their fault, and they want to catch up the sign language to get involve into deaf culture.
Some oralist people made fun of deaf people, maybe they got bitterness in them to backfire. Same as hearing people, they make fun of deaf people.
It is like we are in balance in between hearing and deaf.

I agree with silentwolfdog that we ought to be treated as we are humans as equal.
 
But the hearing get frustrated at us because they think we are stupid if we didnt quite get what they said or if we didnt quite get that joke they just shared or we give them a funny reply to their question because we mis-heard it. It has absolutely nothing to do with smartness or stupidity, but has everything to do with communication or the lack thereof.
 
Silentwolfdog said:
Bitterness is a hard thing to get rid of.

I remember discussing something with one of my hearing classmate. She told me if she suddenly became deaf and saw the way world deal with her the way it did with me. She would be a very bitter person. Of course I was little surprised, but it's because I never understood what's it like not to be a outsider. Of course I still hold some bitterness but I am not going to let it rule my life.

So it's kinda hard to ask all deaf people just to drop "they owe us" idea after all what they have went through.

Sort of like how some people in the south states of US still feel the effects of Civil War even though it was more than one hundred years ago.

I am not asking anything from them though. I just wanted them to treat me like I am a human being, that I have the same desires and needs as they do. That's all I am asking from them.

But that's kinda unfair opinion from me because I know how to survive because of chances I have. Many deaf people don't and they still suffer on daily basis so it's reasonable to see that they feel like world owe them something. Or otherwise they will fall because they don't know how to stand up on their feet.
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Hear, Hear! I agree with all of this.

The hearing people do not owe us anything. We have to climb the proverbial ladder in order to earn our dues in society just like the hearing people have to earn their dues in society (Sorry, celebrities do not count because some of them did not earn their dues. Does the names, Ms. Spears, Ms. Hilton, and Ms. Lohan ring anything?)
 
sr171soars said:
True and it applies any situation where the "language" is not one in which one is comfortable. An example my wife (who is hearing) was discombobulated in Cancun on our Honeymoon years ago. Sure there were those who spoke English but Spanish was the language of the day. It was funny in a way as I was totally comfortable in the environment while not knowing much Spanish.
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Perhaps the fact that you experience that uncomfortable feeling as a result of your hearing loss allowed you to more easily adapt?
 
Blade Runner said:
Hear, Hear! I agree with all of this.

The hearing people do not owe us anything. We have to climb the proverbial ladder in order to earn our dues in society just like the hearing people have to earn their dues in society (Sorry, celebrities do not count because some of them did not earn their dues. Does the names, Ms. Spears, Ms. Hilton, and Ms. Lohan ring anything?)
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Absolutely. And I've never met a deaf person yet that wasn't willing to pay their dues. All they ask is for a level playing field.
 
And therein lies the rub.....the proverbial level playing field.....non-existent in some quarters of the deaf world....
 
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