blu-ray player VS DVD player

I wouldn't buy any old movies or TV shows on BR discs. The picture quality is the same as DVD since they did not use HD cameras during the filming. Most movies and TV shows within the past 2 years are HD but anything older... save your money and buy DVD.
 
If you think about it... Blu Ray has not beaten DVD yet. And if you think about it some more, forecast a little.. There will not be discs in 10 years. It all will be downloadable and storable. I would not invest in Blu Ray at all.
 
Remington said:
I wouldn't buy any old movies or TV shows on BR discs. The picture quality is the same as DVD since they did not use HD cameras during the filming. Most movies and TV shows within the past 2 years are HD but anything older... save your money and buy DVD.
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Yeah. The only thing good that's not HD on Blu-Ray is the extra features. Of course, that's not always something people go crazy for. ;)
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
If you think about it... Blu Ray has not beaten DVD yet. And if you think about it some more, forecast a little.. There will not be discs in 10 years. It all will be downloadable and storable. I would not invest in Blu Ray at all.
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It's not going to be like that. People will be able to make choices on how to view a show/movie. That means physical media such as DVD, Blu-ray and possibly more formats, downloadable movies and TV shows via their computers, cell phones, video game consoles, etc, video on demand via the internet, cable, satellite and more. Heck, even DVD and Blu-ray movies are coming out with digital copies meaning you can put them onto iPod and other devices like Apple TV or streaming media centres.

Downloadable contents are more suitable in the sense of rental concept, but not in the sense of buying it. Hard drives do fail and I wouldn't want 500 movies on a hard drive to go... *poof* Even though a hard drive have never failed on me (knock the wood), but I know a lot of people whose hard drives have failed on them. Then you would be out of luck when you lose all these movies. There is also that issue with encryption with downloadable movies. You cannot put it on just any devices you want to. You are limited to a number of uses for the movies you buy via the internet. That's something that a lot of people may not like.

For me, I would rather use physical media as they are of the highest quality possible in comparison to the downloadable movies you can get off iTunes and other services. Like I said, we will be able to make choices in what we can use. Also, it's more likely physical media will still be more deaf-friendly than downloadable movies when it comes to CC and subtitles in most cases.

Do you realize that the internet providers are already experimenting with charging people by how much they download? Not only that, a lot of internet providers already cap how much they can download before they start charging extras. Supposedly you were to download a movie in 1080p, to get a Blu-ray quality movie without the pixel bursts, heavy compression and such, it would be around 15 to 50GB depending on the types and numbers of audio tracks, subtitles and more attached to these files. In 10 years, we may see 1440p movies being available, but they would be far bigger and heavier on the bandwidth usages. A standard DVD, 740x480 is around 4.7GB while a dual-layered disc would be 9.4GB and that's still with a lot of heavy compression. Then 25GB to 50GB for a Blu-ray disc.

They cap at around 25 to 50GB on average for many internet providers while some may range from 50 to 100GB on a more premium plan. So some people wouldn't be able to download more than a few movies and TV shows without paying a big overcharge fee.

We are not in Japan. We live in North America, they purposely stalls the progress of technology for the sake of the average joes. There are still and will be many uses of physical media along with downloadable contents in the future and it is necessary that we keep them. Especially for data uses and more in many workplaces and home uses.

In the future, it's all about having choices. We did not have that in the 1980s. We only had BETA and VHS to pick from and then it was just VHS for many years until DVD came along.

Being given more options is better than being stuck with just one.
 
Remington said:
I wouldn't buy any old movies or TV shows on BR discs. The picture quality is the same as DVD since they did not use HD cameras during the filming. Most movies and TV shows within the past 2 years are HD but anything older... save your money and buy DVD.
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Not true, not true at all. Most movies are shot on 35mm film. There are some that were shot on 70mm. 35mm is way, way higher in resolution in comparison to the DVD. 70mm is even better. So a movie shot on film in the 50s would look better on Blu-ray than it would on DVD.

In fact, the HD camcorders/cameras they use today is still not better than 35mm film cameras they use. Right now, shooting a movie on 35mm will still be higher in picture quality than you would get from a top of the line digital video camera like Sony/Panavision's Genesis. Some movies like Superman Returns were shot on Genesis. Casino Royale was partially shot on Genesis. It has been shown that there is still a long road for the digital video cameras to outperform the film cameras. The thing is, digital video camcorders are a great idea if you are on a budget and it can makes a movie looks great at a fraction of a cost. However, if they want to make a top-notch quality movie on a big budget, they usually go with film.

Do you think they use DVD at the theatres? No, they use film because if they were to use a DVD on a screen the size of 2 elephants or more, it would look like crap. They also use either a 2K or 4K (high resolution) DLP projector to show the movies digitally but if a film projector is set up properly, it would look better than any digital presentation. At many theatres, the projectionists don't know what they are doing so they end up making it look bad. Therefore, they will buy into the DLP projectors because they are already calibrated and set up to look stellar which they do.

A DVD is not the best presentation you can get in viewing an old movie. It is only a heavily compressed edition when compared to the movie on a film reel.

Don't believe me? Go see 2001: A Space Odyssey on Blu-ray. It's hard to believe how amazing this movie looks on Blu-ray. It looks brand new and a lot of scenes look like as if they were shot yesterday. It was shot on a 70mm film which gave it a very sharp and clean look. They did a great job on restoring the movie.

A lot of TV shows between the 70s and 90s were shot using analog video cameras so yes, they will be unable to upper them to 1080p. However, if they were to remaster some of the TV shows that were shot on film, they can. Seinfeld was shot on film and they did remaster it in high definition. They also remastered Star Trek, the original series in high definition since it was also shot on film.

A show like Full House cannot be because they were shot on analog video. That's a big difference from shooting on film.

A lot of people tend to make assumptions and this is something they often do. I see it all of the times and I have to correct them. Misinformation is usually bad when it comes to movies and TV shows. Nearly all movies are shot on 35mm and on some rare occasions, 70mm. Sometimes 16mm is used.

Film has no real resolution, only grains. Film are made up of grains and it depends on the quality of the film that you use. Hollywood tend to use decent and top-of-the-line film to shoot their movies on. So far, there are still no video formats available on the market that are better than film in the terms of picture quality.
 
For now, I'll carry on using current DVD player until it dies. (had the same DVD player since 2001) I don't have that many DVDs.

As for Blu-ray player hopefully it will be cheaper to buy in the next few years later.
 
~SG~ said:
For now, I'll carry on using current DVD player until it dies. (had the same DVD player since 2001) I don't have that many DVDs.

As for Blu-ray player hopefully it will be cheaper to buy in the next few years later.
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Ditto.

I've got 2 DVD players and they both work well. :)
 
darkage said:
Yes, we did try Blu-Ray player, movie and few different HDTV at the store before buy BD.
My thumb down to SDH.
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There's no other option, even you would struck with DVD.
 
I'm waiting until they release a Blu Ray player for $100 then I'll consider.
 
I'm wait until Blu-ray with built-in DVR for $200 then I'll consider. :D
 
What is the point of owning a HDTV if you will not utilize it?

That's something a lot of people obviously don't think about before buying a HDTV. That's why I didn't buy a HDTV until I had a HD source to hook it up to.
 
I took HDTV because I could enjoy the benfit with video game and OTA that provide HD.
 
There will not be discs in 5 , 10 years. It will all be downloadable content. Blu Ray is a joke basically. I would not recommend buying too many BluRay discs. Downloadable cotent is a inevitablity. Just look at the 'Play Now' feature Netflix added a few months ago.

Banjo: I just saw your post(s). I still think it will be mostly downloadable content, and it will likely be priced accordingly to how you wish to treat the media. Say you wish to purchase it to burn onto a disc or onto a personalized HDD. $3 to rent it for 48 hours. $9.99 to own it forever. I think a business model like that could work. Only time will tell though.
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
There will not be discs in 5 , 10 years. It will all be downloadable content. Blu Ray is a joke basically. I would not recommend buying too many BluRay discs. Downloadable cotent is a inevitablity. Just look at the 'Play Now' feature Netflix added a few months ago.

Banjo: I just saw your post(s). I still think it will be mostly downloadable content, and it will likely be priced accordingly to how you wish to treat the media. Say you wish to purchase it to burn onto a disc or onto a personalized HDD. $3 to rent it for 48 hours. $9.99 to own it forever. I think a business model like that could work. Only time will tell though.
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Only problem is internet speed, our internet speed are more limited right now, probably not greater than 100 mbps, also most area offers under 30 mbps, such as our area is max at 3 mbps and not enough time to download the digital movie. I believe that we will still use optical disc in future, also greater than 1080p movies are eat too much GB, it wouldn't have enough time for most of people, other way, there's sizable of digital movies offers CC (under 100 movies).

I agree with Banjo, HDD and network speed are concern, also Comcast and other cable companies would probably put cap on usage of internet, if over than limited then you will charge with overage fee.
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
There will not be discs in 5 , 10 years. It will all be downloadable content. Blu Ray is a joke basically. I would not recommend buying too many BluRay discs. Downloadable cotent is a inevitablity. Just look at the 'Play Now' feature Netflix added a few months ago.

Banjo: I just saw your post(s). I still think it will be mostly downloadable content, and it will likely be priced accordingly to how you wish to treat the media. Say you wish to purchase it to burn onto a disc or onto a personalized HDD. $3 to rent it for 48 hours. $9.99 to own it forever. I think a business model like that could work. Only time will tell though.
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If you want heavily compressed movies, fine... that's your choice. The important thing is, you are provided the opportunity to make that choice.

If you understand how the market works, you will understand why I said what I said. There were a lot of naysayers about the DVD format when it first came out too as well.

http://www.media-tech.net/fileadmin/templates/expo08/pdf/presentation/BD_market_overview_HDJ[1].pdf

and

http://www.media-tech.net/fileadmin...presentation/Media Tech JRB Pres May 2008.pdf

These are 2 recent studies with projected forecasts for the future market of home video entertainment. It may help you understand why I said some of what I said.

I'll rather spend my money on the best quality available to the consumers and that's why it's great that we are being given more than just one choice to pick from. Also, video formats is something I am quite experienced with and I do have a good deal of knowledge on successful and failed video formats along with how the market works.

Right now, the downloadable movies isn't even making as much of a dent as the Blu-ray format is. Right now, Blu-ray is already taking around 5 to 7% of the total DVD market. A year ago, it wasn't even 1%. That may be a small number to you, but to the marketing analysts, it is a big one. People have to think beyond the today's numbers, they have to look into the future and predict the outcomes.

Like I said, it won't be just downloadable contents. It's going to be more than that. We will have a lot more to pick from than just a single format.

That's what I'm saying. It's better that we have choices rather than being forced to use a single format and that's what happening right now. We are witnessing the unfolding of the multi-format industry for movies, TV shows and music.
 
I did rented blu ray movie called "The Shining" with Jack Nicolson. I saw this movie before with my old DVD player. I watched this on my partner's blu-ray computer. So, that movie "The Shining" is kinda old because of film, not perfect on blu-ray (kinda hard to see compare). So my partner bought blu-ray movie "I, Robot" with Will Smith. It looks clear but im not sure because my partner has two "I, Robot" both original DVD and blu-ray movie. We watched original DVD movie "I, Robot", looks almost the same but blu-ray, it look little bit different. Can u see what's the difference?. Also menu in the movie aren't same both blu-ray and DVD.

look at two same, "I, Robot" movie both blu ray and DVD and see for yourself and compare. You can rent blu-ray at blockbuster or netflix online but look at both blu-ray and DVD same movie, "I, Robot". (Don't rent blu-ray. movieif you don't have blu-ray player)
 
MeYag2CAL said:
I did rented blu ray movie called "The Shining" with Jack Nicolson. I saw this movie before with my old DVD player. I watched this on my partner's blu-ray computer. So, that movie "The Shining" is kinda old because of film, not perfect on blu-ray (kinda hard to see compare). So my partner bought blu-ray movie "I, Robot" with Will Smith. It looks clear but im not sure because my partner has two "I, Robot" both original DVD and blu-ray movie. We watched original DVD movie "I, Robot", looks almost the same but blu-ray, it look little bit different. Can u see what's the difference?. Also menu in the movie aren't same both blu-ray and DVD.

look at two same, "I, Robot" movie both blu ray and DVD and see for yourself and compare. You can rent blu-ray at blockbuster or netflix online but look at both blu-ray and DVD same movie, "I, Robot". (Don't rent blu-ray. movieif you don't have blu-ray player)
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On a big screen, the difference is quite significant. I used to watch DVDs on a screen that is at least 100 inches wide. Once I started using Blu-ray, the difference I saw was astounding. The problem with playing DVDs on a screen of that size is the digital artifacts (noise). It's often the worst in dark scenes where you can see a lot of blocky pixels. But with Blu-ray, that's all gone now. It's clean, no blocky pixels as long they do a good job on the encoding. Plus the image is much sharper too. Also, I use a 1080p projector now, so that makes a difference. I can even see a significant difference on a 37" 720/768p HDTV.

Some people are just blind. No offense. :)
 
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