Don't tell me that deaf people are poor tippers, please....

kokonut said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I like watching "Kitchen Impossible" and get to see how horrible some of the kitchens were on those show. I've a mind to walk into a restaurant I'm not familiar and demand to have a look at their kitchen. Although that doesn't address how food is stored and prepared. :shock:
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You can't demand to see restaurant kitchens. If you have a valid suspicion about its conditions, contact the health department and file a complaint.
 
Reba said:
You can't demand to see restaurant kitchens. If you have a valid suspicion about its conditions, contact the health department and file a complaint.
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Perhaps not demand but one can ask. It doesn't hurt. It's really up to the owner. If he/she says "No." Well, then that's that.


I decided to ask if we could “take a peek in the kitchen”. Again, without so much a blink, the answer was affirmative. The waiter immediately turned and walk to the kitchen (perhaps to give the staff sufficient warning to curb the four-letter-words) and came back with another front-of-staff employee, who showed us to the back. We were given a full-fledged tour of the kitchen, a bright, white space which is simultaneously huge and cramped, given the absurd number of people. There we’re easily 30 or 40 staff members, and yet I didn’t see a single person get whacked in the side of the head with a hot pan or frown about two strange people walking through their workspace. This tour, of course, couldn’t have been a better cap to the night. Better restaurants will often oblige your request to see the kitchen, so it never hurts to ask.
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Le Bernardin: Religion, Without the Gilt
 
Jiro said:
uh.... who said you have to give good tips to bad servers?

and this thread is not about bad servers. it's about bad tippers. you know.. people giving bad tips to good servers. so how can we encourage proper tipping?
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No, the OP in his very first post complained about bad service. He didn't like the service, so he gave a low tip, and his girlfriend thought he should give a good tip anyway.
 
Grayma said:
No, the OP in his very first post complained about bad service. He didn't like the service, so he gave a low tip, and his girlfriend thought he should give a good tip anyway.
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so what do you think of his action like paying $1 tip?

and correction - his girlfriend didn't say he should give a good tip. she said "leaving poor tip and that being late with water is not a good reason to leave a poor tip."
 
A bad tip is arguably more insulting than none at all... none could just be that you forgot or disagree with it, a small one still means you made a conscious effort to pull that $1 out of your wallet and decided 'yeah, that's enough' and slap it down on the little tray thingy.
 
Jiro said:
that's fine. you can go ahead and eat by yourself but in group - don't be an ass. so if you're in my group and you're paying $1 less than equal share... I'm gonna wait and stare at you until you cough it up.


ever gone in group? some people did this and that's fine with us. works out just fine. no problem.


apparently a lot of people here agreed with me. open your eyes. you might learn something here that would impress a woman.
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No problem that anyone tells you about, I'm sure. Regardless of the service you make everyone give a big tip. I'm sure they are all just super happy about it.

The OP didn't get the water so the service wasn't good. He did the right thing and hopefully the wait staff will do a better job in the future.

There are certain things the OP is going to have to do when on a date. There are certain times he is going to have to do what he does not want to do. He's going have to bend the rules because it is customary to do so and avoid an argument. If she asks him if she looks fat, he is going to answer no. If she asks him to pay a bigger tip, he is going to pay a bigger tip. He doesn't have to like it, it's just that being in a relationship requires compromise.

By the way, I'm curious, if a woman asked you if she was fat(and she was) what would your answer be?
 
VacationGuy234 said:
...The OP didn't get the water so the service wasn't good. He did the right thing and hopefully the wait staff will do a better job in the future...
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Did he inform the server that he was dissatisfied with the late water delivery? Otherwise, how would the server know what the $1 tip represented? How would the server know what needed improving? The server isn't a mind reader.

By the way, I'm curious, if a woman asked you if she was fat(and she was) what would your answer be?
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As a woman, I think it's stupid to ask a husband or boy friend such a question. Anyone who is realistic about her own body knows whether or not she is fat without asking. And if she isn't realistic, and does ask, she's not going to accept the answer anyway.
 
Reba said:
Did he inform the server that he was dissatisfied with the late water delivery? Otherwise, how would the server know what the $1 tip represented? How would the server know what needed improving? The server isn't a mind reader.
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You're point is well taken, but it doesn't always solve the problem. Sometimes, the wait staff does not change their behavior. I've been served seafood improperly prepared and upon informing the wait staff, to tell the chef, been told there is nothing that can be done about it(unacceptable).


Reba said:
As a woman, I think it's stupid to ask a husband or boy friend such a question. Anyone who is realistic about her own body knows whether or not she is fat without asking. And if she isn't realistic, and does ask, she's not going to accept the answer anyway.
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You'd be surprised how many times this subject comes up.
 
Reba said:
Did he inform the server that he was dissatisfied with the late water delivery? Otherwise, how would the server know what the $1 tip represented? How would the server know what needed improving? The server isn't a mind reader.


As a woman, I think it's stupid to ask a husband or boy friend such a question. Anyone who is realistic about her own body knows whether or not she is fat without asking. And if she isn't realistic, and does ask, she's not going to accept the answer anyway.
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I also find it curious that it appears that the only thing the waiter did wrong in this case was to forget the water.
 
Reba said:
Did he inform the server that he was dissatisfied with the late water delivery? Otherwise, how would the server know what the $1 tip represented? How would the server know what needed improving? The server isn't a mind reader.
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I believe that the server knew it because the customer asked for water and waited for it too long.



Reba said:
As a woman, I think it's stupid to ask a husband or boy friend such a question. Anyone who is realistic about her own body knows whether or not she is fat without asking. And if she isn't realistic, and does ask, she's not going to accept the answer anyway.
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Ha ha... well, if a fat woman asks me if she looks fat, I have to tell her the truth because I don't know how to lie. Truth sometimes hurts but she asks for it, right?
 
VacationGuy234 said:
You're point is well taken, but it doesn't always solve the problem. Sometimes, the wait staff does not change their behavior. I've been served seafood improperly prepared and upon informing the wait staff, to tell the chef, been told there is nothing that can be done about it(unacceptable).
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The server can't do anything about it, true. You need to speak to the manager.

You'd be surprised how many times this subject comes up.
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I would be surprised. I'm 60 years old and I've never heard any woman ask that of a man, I've never asked that of a man, and TCS told me that he's never had a woman ask him that question. I can't imagine the women I know asking that question.

I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm just saying that it would surprise me. :)

Are these women who ask you that your dates? Maybe they're insecure and need affirmations, or maybe they're vain and like to hear men say how good they look? :dunno:
 
CrazyPaul said:
I believe that the server knew it because the customer asked for water and waited for it too long.
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:dunno: We don't know the full story.

Ha ha... well, if a fat woman asks me if she looks fat, I have to tell her the truth because I don't know how to lie. Truth sometimes hurts but she asks for it, right?
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Guess what? The law doesn't require you to answer that question at all. You don't have to lie. You can say, "It's not my practice to comment on people's weight." Period. End of story.
 
Reba said:
Guess what? The law doesn't require you to answer that question at all. You don't have to lie. You can say, "It's not my practice to comment on people's weight." Period. End of story.
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You should know that some women can be stubborn and demand an answer. "Come on, tell me, tell me and I won't get mad at you."
 
Reba said:
The server can't do anything about it, true. You need to speak to the manager.


I would be surprised. I'm 60 years old and I've never heard any woman ask that of a man, I've never asked that of a man, and TCS told me that he's never had a woman ask him that question. I can't imagine the women I know asking that question.

I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm just saying that it would surprise me. :)

Are these women who ask you that your dates? Maybe they're insecure and need affirmations, or maybe they're vain and like to hear men say how good they look? :dunno:
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No, I can't say I've been asked that question on a date, but I have been asked once the relationship gets more exclusive and serious.
 
CrazyPaul said:
You should know that some women can be stubborn and demand an answer. "Come on, tell me, tell me and I won't get mad at you."
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How annoying! Time to move on if that's your date. If she can't take your "no comment" then who needs that grief?
 
I want to get back to the point about the topic "Don't tell me that deaf people are poor tippers, please...". I am deaf and a great tipper so I agree with the topic. Not ALL deaf people are poor tippers. Period.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
No, I can't say I've been asked that question on a date, but I have been asked once the relationship gets more exclusive and serious.
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Weird. Maybe you should buy her a full-length three-panel mirror.
 
CrazyPaul said:
I want to get back to the point about the topic "Don't tell me that deaf people are poor tippers, please...". I am deaf and a great tipper so I agree with the topic. Not ALL deaf people are poor tippers. Period.
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That's right.
 
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