deaf people should get ALONG with hearing people

rjr2006 said:
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I agree with Metroguy, because I was raised in the hearing world. I noticed that a deaf kid did not say "thank you " to the bus driver, and deaf people NEED TO change their attitudes towards hearing people. I feel totally mortified because deaf people have bad attitudes and because of that, hearing world does not want to be with us.
A question for you: DO YOU WANT TO BE AROUND WITH RUDE PEOPLE OF ANY KIND? I don't want to be around them especially those who are demanding, grumpy, or even culturally separated!

We, deaf people need to change our ways, and change them NOW!
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I can't believe what I just read! I know hearing people that can't get along with other hearing people and I have seen hearing people wear clothes that look they slept in ! I am so sick of this generalization of a class, race or culture of people! There are rude messy people in every race and culture! I had held opened doors for hearing people and they did not thanks me! How do you feel about judgmental people , because that what you're!
 
rjr2006 said:
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I agree with Metroguy, because I was raised in the hearing world. I noticed that a deaf kid did not say "thank you " to the bus driver, and deaf people NEED TO change their attitudes towards hearing people. I feel totally mortified because deaf people have bad attitudes and because of that, hearing world does not want to be with us.
A question for you: DO YOU WANT TO BE AROUND WITH RUDE PEOPLE OF ANY KIND? I don't want to be around them especially those who are demanding, grumpy, or even culturally separated!

We, deaf people need to change our ways, and change them NOW!
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deaf people..I say thank you a lot to a lot of people so you are saying that I need to change my attitude. I say f*** you. Thank you.
 
I seemed to be friendly with some hearing people when I tried to get along with them. I am more comfortable to be with Deaf people than hearing people. Of course, there are some d/Deaf people who were rude but that is because they had bad days like Shel does. No one is perfect. We are just human. I am polite with my good manners to either of each culture. Showing good manners is a good example to the people and help to build the children's self esteem. We just try what we could do to improve our manners. :hmm:

As for the clothes that we must change to look better, it is up to many different people who are comfortable to wear their favorite clothes. I would not like someone to tell me to change my appearance if I am not comfortable to wear. If I want to change to make my appearance for the special event like going to the wedding or to a fancy party or any special events, then I will try to wear the right kind of clothes that would fit me perfectly and comfortable. No one can not change me for who I am. :)
 
There are some snobs, there are some friendly people. That's how life works.
 
everyone should make an effort to get along with everyone :) like my favourite cartoon meercat timone says hakuuna matataa
 
rjr2006 said:
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I agree with Metroguy, because I was raised in the hearing world. I noticed that a deaf kid did not say "thank you " to the bus driver, and deaf people NEED TO change their attitudes towards hearing people. I feel totally mortified because deaf people have bad attitudes and because of that, hearing world does not want to be with us.
A question for you: DO YOU WANT TO BE AROUND WITH RUDE PEOPLE OF ANY KIND? I don't want to be around them especially those who are demanding, grumpy, or even culturally separated!

We, deaf people need to change our ways, and change them NOW!
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Hearing people are rude to us daily and I always try be polite.

Also about deaf kid did not say thank you to bus driver, maybe he didn't know you do that being deaf you miss out small things, maybe he is signer and can't speak, or maybe he is not confident with his speech, etc?

I never knew hearing people say thank you to bus driver around here cos I do not see them move their head to driver to say "thank you" when leave the bus, it only recently I found out when my friend said thank you to driver when left bus with me, I asked her why she do that, she says everyone does. I am 24 years old! It easy to miss stuff like that. It seems hearing say "thank you" without looking at bus driver.
 
drphil said:
Bottesini: I have mentioned this before- excluding the persons at Cdn Hearing Society- a few years ago---none!

I have asked a number of persons at various functions over the years-how many deaf/Deaf/DEAF persons they knew personally- so far no one has met a "deaf "person-excluding me..

I know there is Bob Rumball Centre here in Toronto that has "deaf seniors" - so far I haven't "interacted".

How people out of 43,000 members- here are Bilateral DEAF?

Not quite Bottesini: I am only one that was Bilateral DEAF. My two other brothers are in the profound category. Due to recent changes in OHIP coverage re Cochlear Implants one now has the same Implant that I have. The other one lives in Michigan where Social Security(whatever the correct name is) rules says No Implant yet-till further "loss". At the present no hurry to get one. Up to him, of course. Still uses a Hearing Aid as of a week ago.
Again I became bilateral DEAF in December 2006

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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So your brothers are deaf and you say not quite? They have profound loss so that does make them deaf. Do any of you know sign?
 
I guess it depends on the word what word" deaf "means. Seems multiple contradictory-simultaneous.
My 2 brothers don't use/know ASL et al I disagree a person with a Profound loss is DEAF-assuming one uses a Hearing Aid.

The use of ASL et al doesn't indicate one is DEAF. To the best of my knowledge Hearing persons who use ASL et al don't automatically become DEAF in actuality. Ask any Hearing person who says they are "cultural Deaf".

Seems clarity is the last thing required which raises the obvious-why not?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
 
Journey said:
When I first started going to deaf functions (BBQ, club, etc.). it was my deaf friends who 'warned' me that deafies can be quite rude if they think your signing is not 'good enough' .. and they were right .. and they were wrong. I have had a few deafies blow me off after they ask me questions and I could not answer fast enough or 'correctly' enough. But I have met many more deafies (from teens to senior citizens) who have made me feel very welcome, have patience when I fall behind in a conversation and offer to sign slowly (especially fingerspelling) or teach me signs I don't recognize.

I think whenever we meet new people we should be friendly and open to what they have to offer us and not be concerned or too quick to judge what kind of 'package' that person comes in. Just because someone has been burned by a hearie/deafie in the past, does not mean they need to start fires with others they meet in the future. ;-)
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Hmmm...kind of like hearies do to deafies on a pretty consistent basis when they can't understand what is being said to them orally, huh? The good ole "nevermind".
 
drphil said:
I guess it depends on the word what word" deaf "means. Seems multiple contradictory-simultaneous.
My 2 brothers don't use/know ASL et al I disagree a person with a Profound loss is DEAF-assuming one uses a Hearing Aid.

The use of ASL et al doesn't indicate one is DEAF. To the best of my knowledge Hearing persons who use ASL et al don't automatically become DEAF in actuality. Ask any Hearing person who says they are "cultural Deaf".

Seems clarity is the last thing required which raises the obvious-why not?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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Do you mean to tell us that you have been hanging around here all this time, being given information over and over and over, and you STILL don't know what deaf is?:cool2:
 
jillio said:
Do you mean to tell us that you have been hanging around here all this time, being given information over and over and over, and you STILL don't know what deaf is?:cool2:
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Let alone have deaf siblings.....
 
DeafCaroline said:
And he says there's no deaf community in real life. they're all deaf and none of them sign?
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That part's not that odd. At his age group there was still a big division with oral deaf clubs and signing deaf clubs rejecting each other.

Laro Club was one famous oral deaf bastion.
 
Bottesini said:
That part's not that odd. At his age group there was still a big division with oral deaf clubs and signing deaf clubs rejecting each other.

Laro Club was one famous oral deaf bastion.
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yes but all along he keeps saying he doesn't know any deaf people in real life and doesn't hang out with any deaf people. I was so surprised to find out his brothers, father and uncle are all deaf. Kinda sad to think none of them sign.
 
DeafCaroline said:
yes but all along he keeps saying he doesn't know any deaf people in real life and doesn't hang out with any deaf people. I was so surprised to find out his brothers, father and uncle are all deaf. Kinda sad to think none of them sign.
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Even sadder that he claims not to know them.
 
wow great thread

i'm sure i will get attacked for saying this but i really don't care.. we all have a right to speak our mind. just remember, i am not trying to be rude or disrespectful.

while i agree that rudeness goes both ways, i have to say that i have met some deaf people who got disgusted with me for not being "deaf enough". but i'm not gonna be bitter towards the entire deaf population- just because i had some bad experiences meeting deaf people does not mean they ALL have that judgmental "big D" attitude. i won't lie it used to make me feel miserable because i felt i didn't fit into the deaf community. now i just say fuck it, i am gonna be who i am. screw what people think of me, if i'm not good enough for them then i'm not going to waste my time by being around them.

i remember at gallaudet, someone said to me, "why are you even here? your signs aren't asl enough and you're one of these stupid hearies" very immature and prejudiced. i also got nasty looks from some people because of the way i signed and talked.. it's not my fault i grew up with hearing people.

in my opinion, EVERYONE is different and we all don't come from the same background. why don't we all just fucking accept each other and get along?
 
katerivera said:
wow great thread

i'm sure i will get attacked for saying this but i really don't care.. we all have a right to speak our mind. just remember, i am not trying to be rude or disrespectful.

while i agree that rudeness goes both ways, i have to say that i have met some deaf people who got disgusted with me for not being "deaf enough". but i'm not gonna be bitter towards the entire deaf population- just because i had some bad experiences meeting deaf people does not mean they ALL have that judgmental "big D" attitude. i won't lie it used to make me feel miserable because i felt i didn't fit into the deaf community. now i just say fuck it, i am gonna be who i am. screw what people think of me, if i'm not good enough for them then i'm not going to waste my time by being around them.

i remember at gallaudet, someone said to me, "why are you even here? your signs aren't asl enough and you're one of these stupid hearies" very immature and prejudiced. i also got nasty looks from some people because of the way i signed and talked.. it's not my fault i grew up with hearing people.

in my opinion, EVERYONE is different and we all don't come from the same background. why don't we all just fucking accept each other and get along?
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If you had been in Gallaudet University, you would know that the "big D" is meant for us, Deafies, who sign ASL, not SEE.

I grew up with hearing family members and was mainstreamed in both elementary and high schools (no ASL, just oral-only method). I had struggled trying to understand hearing people in the hearing society. It had and still is hard for me to understand what they are saying.

If you want to learn how to sign properly the right way like all Deafies, then we will open our arms wide for you and applaud you for trying to sign ASL. But if you refuse to learn how to sign ASL, then that is your business. All you have to do is move on. Okay? :)
 
Bebonang said:
If you had been in Gallaudet University, you would know that the "big D" is meant for us, Deafies, who sign ASL, not SEE.

I grew up with hearing family members and was mainstreamed in both elementary and high schools (no ASL, just oral-only method). I had struggled trying to understand hearing people in the hearing society. It had and still is hard for me to understand what they are saying.

If you want to learn how to sign properly the right way like all Deafies, then we will open our arms wide for you and applaud you for trying to sign ASL. But if you refuse to learn how to sign ASL, then that is your business. All you have to do is move on. Okay? :)
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Gallaudet is a place for everyone.. why can't we just learn to accept each other's differences?

and who said i didn't try to improve my ASL skills?
 
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