CI--Deaf or Hearing?

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Beowulf said:
Dang. I feel like I went to the fights and a hockey game broke out.
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We're a bit bloodied but we still have our teeth! I wonder how much longer we'll get to keep them!
 
GrendelQ said:
Let new people talk to those with experience, let those with experience understand new people on their own terms. Let diverse opinions stand, they don't undermine what it means to be Deaf, they make it stronger.
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*snicker*

Pot, meet kettle.
 
deafskeptic said:
We're a bit bloodied but we still have our teeth! I wonder how much longer we'll get to keep them!
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A long time I'd assume. I still have all of my tooth, and we're all plowing through them.

Feeble opponents like FJ, Grendel and Csign? Don't make me laugh. 2/3 of them are liars, and such.

last count was 9 to 3, and counting. so not one bit worried.
 
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sallylou said:
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You know what I'd like to see? Some hearing parents who join the Deaf community separate and apart from their children. You know, make adult Deaf friends and attend grown up Deaf events. This happens with terps and CODAs more than with parents.
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not that you believe it but, i have several close friends who are Deaf. Two were asl teachers i had, another was a Deaf mentor and some i just met through the community. I met them because my child is deaf, but we continue to have a relationship beyond her.
 
Weird. All the hearing people are jumping on jillio. Not a bit of any of that animosity is directed at any deafy. Howcum? If she wasn't here I would be kicking butt.
 
Beowulf said:
Weird. All the hearing people are jumping on jillio. Not a bit of any of that animosity is directed at any deafy. Howcum? If she wasn't here I would be kicking butt.
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Two weeks ago, I would have been more than glad to add another page to my rap sheet, and now I'm just happy everyone sees what I see.
 
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Grendel, do you have a Deaf friend that you hang out with sometimes? Because that's what I mean.
I understand that it's hard to get baby sitters but it's also really important for moms to have a break. My 10 YO calls me & my husband while we're at socials telling us to come home. I assure him that we'll be home later and that I'll call him on the way home. Bringing him a little treat makes up for his inconvenience. :)
 
GrendelQ said:
Yes, I can see that's what you are doing, but please take off the shades and look around you. This is not about your role, it's about making this forum a place where all d/Deaf can have a voice. Without you as interpreter. Let new people talk to those with experience, let those with experience understand new people on their own terms. Let diverse opinions stand, they don't undermine what it means to be Deaf, they make it stronger.
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It was, at one time, a place where the D/deaf had a voice. And then the hearing parents started coming in and playing their audist games and tried to take that away from the D/deaf.

No, I will not let audism stand. Nor will I let misinformation stand. You can give it validity by calling it diversity if you so choose, but it is as far from the purpose of diversity and one can get.

And still, the Deaf are speaking and your are refusing to listen. No one has asked you to come in and clean up AD so that it suits your perpsective of what the forum should be.
 
posts from hell said:
Two weeks ago, I would have been more than glad to add another page to my rap sheet, and now I'm just happy everyone sees what I see.
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Same here. Looks like no more Mr. Nice Guy from me. The picnic is over, you effete snobs.
 
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We are the "B" team. Lol
 
jillio said:
It was, at one time, a place where the D/deaf had a voice. And then the hearing parents started coming in and playing their audist games and tried to take that away from the D/deaf.

No, I will not let audism stand. Nor will I let misinformation stand. You can give it validity by calling it diversity if you so choose, but it is as far from the purpose of diversity and one can get.

And still, the Deaf are speaking and your are refusing to listen. No one has asked you to come in and clean up AD so that it suits your perpsective of what the forum should be.
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Exactly. ^^
 
Beowulf said:
Weird. All the hearing people are jumping on jillio. Not a bit of any of that animosity is directed at any deafy. Howcum? If she wasn't here I would be kicking butt.
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Because it pisses them off that I refuse to support their audist perspectives and that the Deaf have supported me in doing so. If they directed their animosity at the D/deaf, they would appear to be even more audist and prejudicial. So I am the convenient target.
 
Beowulf said:
Weird. All the hearing people are jumping on jillio. Not a bit of any of that animosity is directed at any deafy. Howcum? If she wasn't here I would be kicking butt.
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As DC suggested, they don't want to seem audist if they attack us directly so jillio gets the brunt of the attacks because she won't confirm to what a good hearing parent ought to think.
 
rick48 said:
Could not agree with you more. Grendel has given of her time to share her expereinces raising a deaf child with a cochlear implant so that others may benefit. The pathetic few who constantly attack her do so because they cannot accept the wonderful diversity that exists in the deaf community outside of this particular forum.

Ever wonder that the ones who spend the most time in this forum are those thateither do not have a cochlear implant or denied one to their child. They are so threatened by the thousands of successfully implanted children and their parents because of their own insecuriites.
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Pffft.
 
jillio said:
Because it pisses them off that I refuse to support their audist perspectives and that the Deaf have supported me in doing so. If they directed their animosity at the D/deaf, they would appear to be even more audist and prejudicial. So I am the convenient target.
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You beat me again. :giggle:
 
Beowulf said:
Weird. All the hearing people are jumping on jillio. Not a bit of any of that animosity is directed at any deafy. Howcum? If she wasn't here I would be kicking butt.
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But, you see, no one would be attacking you, Beowulf. This isn't out of the blue. It's a pattern I've seen for years, many here have seen it far longer than I. Jillio attacks nonstop and without reason pretty much continuously. Every once in a while, after she's been particularly belligerent, people express their objection to her nonsense. Sometimes she ratchets it down after a spell like this, which would be nice. Fingers crossed.
 
sallylou said:
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Grendel, do you have a Deaf friend that you hang out with sometimes? Because that's what I mean.
I understand that it's hard to get baby sitters but it's also really important for moms to have a break. My 10 YO calls me & my husband while we're at socials telling us to come home. I assure him that we'll be home later and that I'll call him on the way home. Bringing him a little treat makes up for his inconvenience. :)
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sound you sometimes experience on deaf/hard of hearing communication! social
important to socialize skills friend ! he treat to you!
hard to inconvenience means trouble tough communication

I do inconvenience my client have tried confused, I can write on paper on, hearing people hard to understand to me I am aware
 
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