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souggy said:
I got mixed feelings about ADD... my stepdad's side of the family were largely misdiagnosed with ADD, and they were properly diagnosed with bipolar. Why? The medications they used to treat bipolar were also used to treat ADD during the 60s to 80s... that have changed now.

On the other hand, I see so many people misdiagnosed with so many things until they were in their early 20s or late 30s, then they finally start responding better to ADD management. You have to remember, most people with legitimate diagnosis of ADD refuse to take medications unless all hope seems lost for them. Why? They don't like the side effects.
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That reminds me...my hearing brother was misdiagnosed with having ADDHD as a child but it turned out that he had bipolar all this time.
 
shel90 said:
That reminds me...my hearing brother was misdiagnosed with having ADDHD as a child but it turned out that he had bipolar all this time.
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Was he on lithium at the time? Back in the 60s, it was used to treat ADD. They only use lithum for bipolar now since we gained better knowledge how medications work.
 
Behavior Cognitive Therapy helps ADD/ADHD people to control their behaviors, impulsive tendencies, and think before speak out. It does help me. That's why I decide not to take any medication to control my mild ADHD symptoms.

BCT and doing my stuff my way help me a lot.

I recalled that Leibling mentioned that about her son's ADD symptoms somewhere here...he got BCT and doing some activities to keep him busy without any medications. Avoid sugar after 2 p.m. It does help him alot.
 
Lucia, I sure can relate to how frustrating the math experience was for you! I ended up getting into a "hidden" - as in, not listed anywhere in college coursebook - class for people with math LD. All 2 of us.

Botti and Lucia, yeah, the checkbook - in college I had the bank balance it for me but I was still having lots of problems with it and my boyfriend <now husband> had to bail me out a couple times. I often make mistakes with it still and in line at businesses I often have issues w/the transactions....still count on my fingers, mix up Left and Right, etc.

I think there is still strong stigma when it comes to things like Bipolar and PTSD and maybe it can make it harder to look for and find qualified people to help. I wonder if it can be more difficult to also find help getting proper diagnosis of ADD/ADHD as an adult, because - as in the area of learning disabilities - still so much of the research and exposure involves school-age kids.
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Wellbutrin for ADD? WTF. Clearly he put you on the wrong medication there. Wellbutrin was not designed to treat ADD/ADHD. It was designed to treat depression. And it can make you manic if you are Bipolar if you are not on a mood stabilizer too. It's no wonder the Wellbutrin didn't do shit for you. I know, I have a heavy interest in psychiatry.

Anyway, 15 minutes is not enough time to diagnose you. It takes way more time than that. Trust me. You probably had a crappy psychiatrist.



I'm guessing Progivil.
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actually it can be used for ADD

My husband has ADD without the "H" and was diagnosed since 3rd grade. I'm familiar with ADD medications.
 
Jiro said:
I see. But you have written numbers of novel-like posts in here. You read a lot of posts (mix of short and long version). I'm wonder how you did that without ADD med.
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people with ADD tend to have alot to say.
 
Jiro said:
I see. But you have written numbers of novel-like posts in here. You read a lot of posts (mix of short and long version). I'm wonder how you did that without ADD med.
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I note it applies to you also. And whether you have BiPolar, ADD, etc with your already diagnosed condition, just because you don't want to medicate does not mean you don't have it.

Excess alcohol consumption is an indicator of a person self medicating.

There are plenty of schizophrenic bums on the street who do that too.

By the time you are showing up to your job four or five hours late, most people would notice there might be a problem.
 
Excess alcohol consumption is an indicator of a person self medicating.
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actually, that's not always true. I know it is true in some cases, but my husband haven't been on medication for YEARS (probably over 10 years or so) has no desire to drink. some ADD are super sensitive to taste so they can't even stand the taste of beer. He couldn't stand it. Now the hyperactive ADD might be more likely to self medicate themselves with alchohol and drugs.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
actually, that's not always true. I know it is true in some cases, but my husband haven't been on medication for YEARS (probably over 10 years or so) has no desire to drink. some ADD are super sensitive to taste so they can't even stand the taste of beer. He couldn't stand it. Now the hyperactive ADD might be more likely to self medicate themselves with alchohol and drugs.
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I don't think you understood me. The fact he does not drink indicates he does not self medicate.

I did not say everyone who does not take medication self medicates.

There is a big difference there.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
people with ADD tend to have alot to say.
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Yes - take me for instance.

I will trail off either online or IRL.

I have seen how I can disrupt my professors' classes although they will say I do not; I am smart enough to know I have done it sometimes. I control myself by telling myself "I will answer the next 2nd question."

I also control myself when I give a presentation by practising my presentations at home using the video camera so I don't trail off.

Oddball brought up an excellent point - CBT. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy; it does work. This is what I have been doing; controlling myself and my triggers. Medication I stay away from. My doctors and I have agreed not to use medication; we both agreed to use CBT and it has worked wonders.

Cognitive therapy is a form of psychotherapy or psychological treatment that tries to teach patients how to recognize the connection between their specific thoughts and the effects that thinking has on their emotions
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A professional therapist does a test to determine ADD/ADHD and it is not 15 minutes; it is actually a series of tests. You can expect a test to take a day and a half. Some therapists will prefer to split the test in a block of 3 days as it is energy and mind consuming for both the therapist and the patient.

Jiro, I must admit that your "attitude" towards this subject leaves a lot to be desired for.

The 15 minute test is a farce, Jiro. Please. It is just a preliminary test.

This website shows the series of questionnaires in the ADD/ADHD assessment. source

Like I said, those who do not have ADD/ADHD seriously need to keep their opinions to themselves about this subject. I encourage you to do this otherwise you'll be offending a lot of people.

Those who suffer from it, parents of children who have ADD/ADHD and educators who work with children.
 
Bottesini said:
I note it applies to you also. And whether you have BiPolar, ADD, etc with your already diagnosed condition, just because you don't want to medicate does not mean you don't have it.

Excess alcohol consumption is an indicator of a person self medicating.

There are plenty of schizophrenic bums on the street who do that too.

By the time you are showing up to your job four or five hours late, most people would notice there might be a problem.
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Well said.

Excess drinking, excess partying, excess caffeine, excess risk behaviour (gun/motorcycle) and very little sleep.

A recipe for disaster especially when a person claims not to have ADD.

Sorry Jiro but I have to agree with Botts.

All of your behaviour matches the typical ADD/ADHD behaviour when it is all in excess.

Excess of drinking, partying, caffeine, risk and you live on very little sleep.

This would explain your irrational behaviour and thinking logic.

For adults with ADD / ADHD, life can be a frustrating merry-go-round of running late, not getting things done, sleeping at odd hours, and feeling like things are out of control. Due to the nature of the disorder, even routine chores and work activities can seem overwhelming. However, there are many skills you can learn to help get your life under control. It’s a challenge, but you can recognize your strengths and use them to develop skills to work better, increase organization, and interact with people more effectively. With the right skills and support, you can counteract the effects of ADD / ADHD.
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I am not surprised that this is where you constantly challenge this debate- denial is always the first stage.
 
Bottesini said:
I don't think you understood me. The fact he does not drink indicates he does not self medicate.

I did not say everyone who does not take medication self medicates.

There is a big difference there.
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people say that ADHD/ADD are far more likely to do drugs and alcohol, even take excess amount but I just don't think that is always true. That's all. and I don't think excess drinking is usually a sign of self-medicating. Sometimes, a person just drink too much rather he have ADHD or not.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
what does owning guns have to do with risky behavior?
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Jiro admits to going to gun training workshops and he also admits to partying and has very little sleep.

It is not wise to have a gun when you are partying, drinking and have very little sleep.

Clouded judgment + a gun= bad decisions
 
for some reasons, I don't think Jiro drink that much than we think but of course, I haven't read all his posts. Also, boys are known to love to take risks. Not all the time though.
 
You all can criticize me all you please becaue i like to open my eyes.

From my visiting to NYC and be with Jiro for two days. He isn't the type of person who drinks so excess. but I understand your point of having the pattern of his behavior that is your entitlment to think that way. I only point out that he does not drink much but partying too much to be around with deaf/hoh people too much which is true. I undertand he enjoys too much of having fun with new people.

but Guns and lack of sleeping can be issue for anything. I am getting my ass out of this one.
 
I know a few people who love to go to parties and met new people as well, and they don't have ADHD at all.

The ones that do, from what i observed from people who admit they have ADHD... like to stay home and play video games excessively.
 
True. I have ADHD. I used to party pretty that much until I have kids then I cut down of my party goer time and stay home more than before.

ADD/ADHD have their personalities preference of doing something differently to keep them busy based on their social skills.
 
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