Wikileaks leak 250,000 classified files

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Jiro said:
ah! so on December 16th - there will be a meeting called "Hearing on the Espionage Act and the Legal and Constitutional Issues Raised by WikiLeaks"

WikiLeaks Congressional Hearing Set for Dec. 16 - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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I hope someone -cough- changes the start time to 1 AM because it's an issue being pushed by idiotic dreamers. If one am is too inconvient for the legislators, might as well push back the "puff the magic dragon; a look at oil company profits and model for success".
 
Jiro said:
and.... you just said - you are in no position to say whether or not a law has been violated.... so why bother asserting your opinion?

:wave:
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Plus, the espionage act covers intent. Was Assange's primary intent to create harm to the U.S., or was it just to inform the people? I think most of us know that answer. He was proving a point. His intent was not espionage. Not any more than Daniel Elsberg was guilty of espionage.
 
right.

Assange attorney: Secret grand jury meeting in Virginia on WikiLeaks
Before WikiLeaks began posting the cables, Assange wrote to the United States and told them he did not want to imperil any ongoing operations or put anyone at risk, Stephens said. Redactions put in place are not seen to have exposed anyone to risk, he said.

Beside the United States, WikiLeaks has apparently angered Russia and China, Stephens told Al-Jazeera. Russia has accused him of being a CIA operative, according to the attorney, while cyberattacks against WikiLeaks have appeared to come from Russian and Chinese computers. "He does seem to have picked enemies, if you like, with the three major superpowers," Stephens said of Assange.
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I hope Assange will come out of this debacle alive!

Otherwise he'd be an martyr for freedom of speech and all that.
 
Dear Americans: If you are not "authorized" personnel, but you have read, written about, commented upon, tweeted, spread links by "liking" on Facebook, shared by email, or otherwise discussed "classified" information disclosed from WikiLeaks, you could be implicated for crimes under the U.S. Espionage Act -- or so warns a legal expert who said the U.S. Espionage Act could make "felons of us all."

As the U.S. Justice Department works on a legal case against WikiLeak's Julian Assange for his role in helping publish 250,000 classified U.S. diplomatic cables, authorities are leaning toward charging Assange with spying under the Espionage Act of 1917. Legal experts warn that if there is an indictment under the Espionage Act, then any citizen who has discussed or accessed "classified" information can be arrested on "national security" grounds.

According to the Act, anyone "having unauthorized possession of, access to....information relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense" which "could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation" and "willfully retains" that information, can be fined or imprisoned "not more than ten years, or both."

Benjamin Wittes, who specializes in legal affairs, blogged, "By its terms, it criminalizes not merely the disclosure of national defense information by organizations such as Wikileaks, but also the reporting on that information by countless news organizations. It also criminalizes all casual discussions of such disclosures by persons not authorized to receive them to other persons not authorized to receive them-in other words, all tweets sending around those countless news stories, all blogging on them, and all dinner party conversations about their contents. Taken at its word, the Espionage Act makes felons of us all."

This may be why the State Department has warned certain people not to read or to discuss WikiLeak content on social media -- not unless they wished to be considered a security risk. CNN reported that "unauthorized federal workers and contractors have been warned not to attempt to read the classified documents on WikiLeaks." According to the recently hacked Gawker, an anonymous tip revealed that the U.S. military warned soldiers not to read "about the Wikileaks disclosures-or read coverage of them in mainstream news sites." Even students at Columbia University that might wish to be hired by the State Department were warned not to comment upon or post links to the WikiLeak cables.

Although Cablegate and the leaked secret cables might be embarrassing for the government, Wittes noted that the majority of them don't contain information that directly relates to "national defense." The Espionage Act does not "cover the overwhelming bulk of the material that Wikileaks disclosed," he stated.

A recent report from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) suggests that there may be sufficient legal precedent to keep the news media from being held liable. The EFF stated, in an effort to oppose online censorship, that the CRS is a "must read" for anyone who reports on, mirrors or hosts the U.S. diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks. "Hopefully, this information will help counter much of the fear that our government's so-called 'war' against Wikileaks has generated."
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source: Espionage Act makes felons of us all - Computerworld Blogs

Guess we're all going to jail....

Yiz
 
hey it's guaranteeing three hots and a cot...plus "Cadillac" health care.
 
Jiro said:
have you read Amendment 1? Did you know Supreme Court was explicit on this? It is legal for them to publish it but it is illegal to obtain it. Assange did not obtain it illegally.

Did Assange obtain it from government himself? Did Assange hack into government's computer?
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The information came from Bradley Manning. He is currently under investigation for this.

I personally support Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

I do not support Anon.
 
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