Who is the Biblical believer?!

[Crazymanw00t..... don't ever insult my intelligant! grow up as a man!


What is your point? with black slaves.
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OH BOY! I no need to have answer this put up with your questions. I don't want to remind you as repeat as like i said, you need to re-read my posts somewhere in thread what I put it with answers and questions already".. that is enough..

I debate facted on the bible and I can give you all day verses and explaination of each verse and I am very sure that you will walk away from me because I am too blunt for you. You couldn't stand blunts.
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You put your own word turned aginst yourself.. You knowlegde better than me or my scripture.. Since you critized on KING JAMES VERSION, because his grammars was none-sense and not properply for you.. SO GOOD for you.... You can give me all verses and explaination of each verse.. I don't think so that i would walk away because of that...you are very blunt..... No no no not that ONE.... but I don't care how much of intelligace level you are in.... the verses with your mind is TOOOOO limited.. I already told you that I don't want to have share with you verse by verse.. You acts up like childish and immature as i was in your shoes.. I aint anymore.. In future, You will see why they won't run into you when they desire to learn about God's word through you..Because They know your behavor as not grow up and your not ready to have stable down to listen other who want to learn about God's word.. that why i did not want to have wasting my time to sit down with you through debate as crazy.. I don't want to be blunt with you over your stupid argue debate .. I don't mind that you are blunt with me.. I let you talk BLAH..BLAH..BLAH.. you make me drowsy with YAWN... that why I let you go with your owns BLAH, BLAH, BLAH without me.. because your knowledge is not come from God or Scripture period..


I recommend you have to read holy scripture again.. i hope holy scriptrue will going to grow you with wisdom and knowledge about verses and messages..

NOTE: I did not asking you make to post here to debate or subnormal intelligence questions in this.. thank...
 
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ckfarbes said:
if You go back to the original ancient texts. Then You can find out what has really changed, and get a more accurate picture of the Word of God. Yes, the Bible is the Word of God, and some Christian believer have doubt this statement. It is as fundamental as your belief itself.


Remember the Poweful verses in Scripture:

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


NIV, NKJV, ASV, NRSV,..just like the new translation! Those bibles completely omissed the verses out of from those bibles. People wanted to make many of bible understanding and easy!! But My answer is very simple: They are not agree eachother with bible. they ended up to make their own bible divided into many bibles confuse you to pick which one of the best book for you.

Psa 107:11 Because they rebelled against the words of God, and contemned the counsel of the most High:

Would you be upset if you bought a road map that removed a few roads or cities from the map?

KJV has the beautiful verse and pure Word of the One True and Perfect God, it is perfect also through the heart reveal you..


Your Bible which Niv, others had SOMETHING missed from VERSES below:

Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

1161 AUTHORIZED VERSION [I.E. KING JAMES BIBLE] HAS THE WORDS OF ETENTRAL LIFE.
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Amen! I agree with you because I research on manuscript evidences for more than 15 years. Manuscript evidences show that the KJV is the best. :mrgreen:
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Liebling, it is interesting that you believe in bible and you aren't religious. It means that you don't follow what bible said, and is that right?
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Well, if I believe in the Bible and accepted Jesus as my personal Savior, call me, Christian! Christian does not mean religion. Keep in mind that religion CANNOT save your soul.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
I said you should read Greek NT and Hebrew OT to aviod any translations. Greek NT and Hebrew OT are the orignal bible. And you are saying that they already deleted some verse, and I am telling you this, "Oh please." We still have the oldest scroll of those manualscripts (SP?).
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The warning on Greek text is many Greek texts. Which Greek NT is right one?

Dude, Everyone is not perfect with knoweldge of bible's verses. You can't memory every words order in every verses. Therefore I am still learning. Greek and English is completely different. They got different word orders. English's bible already missed some main points from the bible just beacuse of translation. That is why I am studying Greek to understand the main point from Greek's bible.
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Well, ASL and English are different. English ADDED words on ASL for right grammar. Greek is syntax grammar like ASL. Translation is how the translators translate from Greek words to English words - word for word!
 
It's amazing how people totally underestimate the power of language and how it influences people's ideas of many things. The Bible is subject to different interpretations.

The Bible has many contradictions yet Christian beleivers refuse to accept them. They say that logic is important but their logic is absent when it comes to interpreting the Bible. Their faith blinds them pretty well.

-jeff
 
VamPyroX said:
I'm not a biblical believer. I haven't seen anything being proven in the Bible. So far, the Bible is just one big "story". I've seen better stuff from history books. ;)
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If you do not believe in the Bible, why is the Bible here? That mean you are an atheist. Read Psalm 14:1 -- This verse said that these atheists are called, "FOOLS"! If the Bible is here, THERE IS GOD!!!

On other hand, if the Bible is not here, you would be right.
 
netrox said:
The Bible has many contradictions yet Christian beleivers refuse to accept them.
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Does the Bible have many contradictions? If so, please tell me what they are.
 
Askjo said:
Well, if I believe in the Bible and accepted Jesus as my personal Savior, call me, Christian! Christian does not mean religion. Keep in mind that religion CANNOT save your soul.
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Are you nut?

Christian is a part of the reiligion. Yeah, Christian or Religion don't save you. Only Jesus Christ can save you. I want to mention that the KJV isn't best bible to use. I suggest you to use NASB it is almost perfect trasnlator from Greek bible.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
I want to mention that the KJV isn't best bible to use. I suggest you to use NASB it is almost perfect trasnlator from Greek bible.
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KJV - King James Version

NASB - ????
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Are you nut?
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What?
Christian is a part of the reiligion. Yeah, Christian or Religion don't save you. Only Jesus Christ can save you. I want to mention that the KJV isn't best bible to use. I suggest you to use NASB it is almost perfect trasnlator from Greek bible.
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I object your answer because you misunderstand what I mean. Please define Christian and religion for me.

You said that the KJV is not best because you do not know manuscript evidences.

NASB is not best because NASB omitted important names of Jesus Christ in the NT 210 times!!!! Therefore the NASB is not Word of God.
 
Askjo said:
What? I object your answer because you misunderstand what I mean. Please define Christian and religion for me.

You said that the KJV is not best because you do not know manuscript evidences.

NASB is not best because NASB omitted important names of Jesus Christ in the NT 210 times!!!! Therefore the NASB is not Word of God.
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Askjo, you will be surprised with the KJV between with Greek. KJV omitted more Greek words than the NASB do. NASB still omitts some words for English purpose. I want to see your evidences with 210 times omitted with Jesus Christ. Let me tell you this, KJV or NASB or ESV isn't word of god. If you want the word of god get Hebrew OT and Greek NT Bible. NASB is almost word of god than KJV and NKJV. Again it is upon personal prefers with the Bible translators.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Askjo, you will be surprised with the KJV between with Greek. KJV omitted more Greek words than the NASB do. .
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Wrong! The Greek is long syntax grammar. ASL is short syntax grammar. English and Greek are not same. The KJV translators translated words from Greek to English. It is called, "formal equivalency". NASB uses "Dynamic equivalency" but it is dangerous because the dynamic equivalency ignores the Biblical principle.
NASB still omitts some words for English purpose.
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Not true. It is wrong.
I want to see your evidences with 210 times omitted with Jesus Christ.
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Everett Fowler evaluted versions of the New Testament. He listed versions with omission of Jesus's names.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Sources plz? Book name? When it was published? What publisher company? When it is copyright protected?
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I provided you the name - that is the author.
 
I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, but what does it matter which bible is so called "better" if the whole point is to accept jesus and serve him? What is the point in this argument?
 
Crazyman,
Askjo said:
... The KJV translators translated words from Greek to English. It is called, "formal equivalency". NASB uses "Dynamic equivalency" but it is dangerous because the dynamic equivalency ignores the Biblical principle...
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Just to add a little explanation:

Translating the words of the original text allows detailed word study and comparisons. Dynamic equivalency doesn't do that.
 
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