Where is Angel's thread?

[CODAchild]

Was I being hard on her? Show me where? Not once I was, I am only telling how I honestly feel from the heart, If that is a problem then I'm sorry, You have no idea how I feel, None because you never had an abortion like I did.

Cheri, I am going to tell you the same thing I told Angel. Don't be too hard on yourself either. Anyone who has had an abortion will feel your pain, and know what you went through. The ones who haven't like me, need to be more understanding and compassionate of your pain and sorrow. You had to make a very hard decision in that lifetime, one that, like you said that has left you with scars. Now take a look at your 2 beautiful boys right now, and now thank God that he gave you a second chance at being a Mom and a darn good mom at that!!!! Please hang in there. Be kind to yourself.

 

[Momoftwo]

Angel - you are NOT a lousy or bad mother at all!!!!! No.....

Cheri- be very glad that you have a child or few more children if you have. It can happen to have a mistake only if you ask God to forgive. No one is perfect - it is very hard to be so perfect. smile

CodaChild - you said it all!!!

ahhhh, I can't say more because my daughter and her 5 friends (eeekkk) here for a sleep over. hahhaha..

Take care!

 

[DreamDeaf]

Momof2 -

You still dont get my point. You state that youve never had an abortion - how can you say you know all about them?

The baby that died was the result of a rape - a very vicious rape. The reason I did not know I was pregnant until it was too far along, just before it died, was because I was still swollen and bleeding from the rape. If I had known, I might have had the abortion earlier. I will never know because I did not know it then. As it was, I made the decision to go through it to full term and give it up for adoption, as I did for an earlier pregnacy. It just did not happen according to plan, and I had to go ahead and abort it due to the death of the fetus.

I do not have any regret, but I do know in a way how that young girl felt - she WAS not allowed to make the decision for herself. Another one was there for the same reason - she was raped and did not want to have to go on with the pregnancy. Another woman was there because her ex-boyfriend was very abusive and had already done severe damage to the fetus.

Those, and many others, it would break your heart to hear them. Not all women are idiots like who you have described - there was indeed one woman there that admitted that she got drunk one night and got knocked up - the reason she was there was because she found that the fetus had a deformity that would have killed it upon birth and she didnt want it to suffer the pain it might have felt then. I do know that woman, I do see her from time to time, and while we do not talk about it, she has told me that while she was sad about making the choice, she did not regret having to do it. She already had two boys from an earlier marriage and a little girl from a current boyfriend and shes happy with what she has.

My earlier pregnancy? I was an idiot in high school, also, and gave up the baby for adoption upon birth. I do not have any regrets there, either. I CHOSE the family that adopted her - and I know she is happy. And yes, I got pregnant later on - another rape. I miscarried the fetus and it developed into uterus cancer. I am now in remission, thank the good Lord for that.

Momof2, unless you have had one for real, please do not say you know all about abortions - you need to talk more with other women and find out why they did this or that - you will be very surprised at the wide range of answers and emotions.

You need to turn that attitude into a listening ear - or seeing eyes, whichever you prefer. Hear their stories. Many will just make you cry. Many will make you cringe. You will learn. Oh yes, you will learn. Big time.

As for Cheri, you will have to learn how to ask her. She will tell you. You will realize that there is indeed a different story there.

Momof2, I dare you. I dare you to open your heart and listen to our stories. Walk in our shoes for a mile and learn the what and why behind our choices. I dare you. You will learn more than you thought you knew.

 

[Maria]

That's not what RR was saying... he was saying anybody can create a thread "abortion" with no graphic showing.. only show the blue link that is for aders who want to see what it looks like.. and for those who don't want to see it don't have to click on the link. its by choice if they want to open it or not.

Also.. if you see the thread "abortion" and not interested in reading it.. then don't open it.. its for those who want to know more about it and understand why people do it.. why they're against it or whatever they come up with.

i still think we should be open to discuss anything in this forum as we please. there are other threads that are offensive sometimes.. like talking about the bible or God or Jesus some of us don't want to talk about it but we do speak of our opinions.. so we're entitled to create anything to get an opinion.

^Angel^ meant no harm to hurt anybody.. if you feel offended.. don't bother to look in that thread and it wouldn't be as much trouble for you.

Well, you don't need to explain all that to me - just to save your time. RR can explain all that himself to me. I have no problem acceptin' what he said. He will put an attach with a warnin' to it - so this way, some ADers will aware that there's some graphics in it. I know what I am doin' if there's some "offense" graphics in it, then I don't need to go there. As I've mentioned in my previous post that I let the ADers to voice their pieces. I have nothin' to stop them.

 

[Oakley_04]

Mom of 2- u dont get it cuz you never expreince it and your nose is in the bible and i am not sure which page ur on!!! let these lady express or give their own opioions and DD is right there are Millions of reason to abortions not jsut careless.

Momof2 -

You still dont get my point. You state that youve never had an abortion - how can you say you know all about them?

The baby that died was the result of a rape - a very vicious rape. The reason I did not know I was pregnant until it was too far along, just before it died, was because I was still swollen and bleeding from the rape. If I had known, I might have had the abortion earlier. I will never know because I did not know it then. As it was, I made the decision to go through it to full term and give it up for adoption, as I did for an earlier pregnacy. It just did not happen according to plan, and I had to go ahead and abort it due to the death of the fetus.

I do not have any regret, but I do know in a way how that young girl felt - she WAS not allowed to make the decision for herself. Another one was there for the same reason - she was raped and did not want to have to go on with the pregnancy. Another woman was there because her ex-boyfriend was very abusive and had already done severe damage to the fetus.

Those, and many others, it would break your heart to hear them. Not all women are idiots like who you have described - there was indeed one woman there that admitted that she got drunk one night and got knocked up - the reason she was there was because she found that the fetus had a deformity that would have killed it upon birth and she didnt want it to suffer the pain it might have felt then. I do know that woman, I do see her from time to time, and while we do not talk about it, she has told me that while she was sad about making the choice, she did not regret having to do it. She already had two boys from an earlier marriage and a little girl from a current boyfriend and shes happy with what she has.

My earlier pregnancy? I was an idiot in high school, also, and gave up the baby for adoption upon birth. I do not have any regrets there, either. I CHOSE the family that adopted her - and I know she is happy. And yes, I got pregnant later on - another rape. I miscarried the fetus and it developed into uterus cancer. I am now in remission, thank the good Lord for that.

Momof2, unless you have had one for real, please do not say you know all about abortions - you need to talk more with other women and find out why they did this or that - you will be very surprised at the wide range of answers and emotions.

You need to turn that attitude into a listening ear - or seeing eyes, whichever you prefer. Hear their stories. Many will just make you cry. Many will make you cringe. You will learn. Oh yes, you will learn. Big time.

As for Cheri, you will have to learn how to ask her. She will tell you. You will realize that there is indeed a different story there.

Momof2, I dare you. I dare you to open your heart and listen to our stories. Walk in our shoes for a mile and learn the what and why behind our choices. I dare you. You will learn more than you thought you knew.

 

[Heath]

I don't think it is necessary to bring it back because one of the photo almost a full term pregnancy and It brought back memories of the time I had the abortion at 5 months, It was too upsetting for me. Please understand that it very hard to not look at the photos if you been in my shoes, You would understand. I can see that ^Angel^ meant no harm, nor to even intend to hurt someone's feeling. I'm sure she wasn't aware that it would effect some of us who already had an abortion.

Okay and understood.

 

[Heath]

Roadrunner, this thread reminds me of the time I posted the medical photos of STD and HIV/AIDS then .... I was going to put up medical photos of heroin addict's arms full of tracks and some of the flesh on the skin is completely eaten away and is an open wound.

I never got to post the medical pictures because everybody went into an uproar over that STD thread.

I ended up defending myself instead of having the 2nd posting be about medical photos of heroin addict's arms and how it affects the heroin addicts.

I think cookiemonster ruined it and took my 2nd post right out of my mouth when that 2nd posting was supposed to be medical photos of heroin addicts and how their arms look then everyone jumped on the wagon for an online all-out vicious assault on me and I could not believe the twisting of words, the online marching of really immature comments made when commonsense was thrown out the window.

Angel had a good purpose and a good intention in saving Deaf people's lives just like I did with the STD thread on trying to help save Deaf people's lives through the F.Y.I. process.

We all learn something new educationally , even in the midst of an uproar like this then forgive and forget the back and forth arguements.

 

[JeepGirl]

I take it badk what I said earlier... I meant no harm what I said. I realized that the thread does need to be lock and the abortion need to be locked and not to mention it in AD. It sure does affect to some people talking about it. I've got a family member that don't talk about it at all.

I'd say lock this thread. If anyone want to talk about it, it can be done in private and not to create a thread about abortion at all. its too personal. I'm sorry for mentioning that we have a right to our opinion. its true that we do but not this kind of topic.

Mods.. please lock this thread and not to let others create a new thread about abortion. Its for their own good!

 

[Maria]

It's why some people who have experienced their ordeals through abortion don't create a thread to talk about it - it does make sense to me and I do agree with them. It's all about "sad", "upset", maybe "angry" or "mad" for makin' the wrong decision for doin' it, and all that kind of things ( negativity ). It's all too depressin' to talk about because, of the abortion itself ain't that pretty to discuss. It's all "mournin'" thing... too grievin' to think about. I would prefer to leave it out. If, people want to have an abortion for any reason, they could go to parenthood to discuss about this or talk about this with their professional doctor. They could always recieve their advices/ask for 2nd opinion through their professional doctor or parenthood. It's not that hard to ask for help. High schools have their own counselin' for teens via parents, if pregnancy occur.

 

[Heath]

I would say if the girl got pregnant then she should go through the 9 months of pregnancy and give birth then give the baby up for adoption.

That way she has no troubled conscience to bear with when she is older and her eyes have been opened then she realizes the full impact of what she has done because at that time she was in a very emotionally charged situation and now that situation is over 5 or 10 or 20 years down the road then she will be happy that she gave the baby up for adoption and have a clean conscience.

There are many married couples out there that can't have a baby ( barren womb ) then the adoption itself will be a blessing.

Of course, a lady will still have feelings and emotions with the aftermath of an adoption.

It still is much more positive and better than having an abortion. That is what I think.

 

[The*Empress]

There is no good reason to abort a child.
I don't care if you're too young or raped.

Babies are innocent. And it isn't expensive.

All they need is love and some attention.. And they don't care about money and how pretty crib is... All they need is you.

And women can get job and go college to get the stupid degree and still be with baby.

 

[Cheri]

Heath and Miss PeePee,

Do you see this as an abortion debates? No, The title of the thread speaks as where's Angel's thread. Learn to stick with the point of the topic. Thank-you.

 

[javapride]

OK i sat back here watching u all squabbled and quarreld over nothing but why this why that.....

heres my 2 cent, angel has a reason for locking that thread learn to respect her wishes its her business to lock it not yours not anyones!!!

momof2 do urself a favor leave these questionable threads alone shes asked it to be deleted so respect that and leave it alone simple said simple done don t go on whining abt it.

and ladies shush u dont have a reason to explain yourself but you and your god, we re not going to bow down to the poeple who demands to know why....

mods IMO u shld have deleted this thread after ur 3rd comment when u explained ur reasons why and locked it and not let this go on and on cuz its aggvravting poeple simle said simple done. we could open a suggestion box abt the certain sticky issues and then compromise in that thread but dont go letting members trash other members like this and letting each other be belittled! and rules basically says dont go bashing each other and yet there still is bashing... but thats another thread...

time for this to be locked period thats where i stand, *walking away*

 

[JeepGirl]

OK i sat back here watching u all squabbled and quarreld over nothing but why this why that.....

heres my 2 cent, angel has a reason for locking that thread learn to respect her wishes its her business to lock it not yours not anyones!!!

momof2 do urself a favor leave these questionable threads alone shes asked it to be deleted so respect that and leave it alone simple said simple done don t go on whining abt it.

and ladies shush u dont have a reason to explain yourself but you and your god, we re not going to bow down to the poeple who demands to know why....

mods IMO u shld have deleted this thread after ur 3rd comment when u explained ur reasons why and locked it and not let this go on and on cuz its aggvravting poeple simle said simple done. we could open a suggestion box abt the certain sticky issues and then compromise in that thread but dont go letting members trash other members like this and letting each other be belittled! and rules basically says dont go bashing each other and yet there still is bashing... but thats another thread...

time for this to be locked period thats where i stand, *walking away*

I second that...

 

[diehardbiker]

I second you!!! Your hitting this hard and right!

OK i sat back here watching u all squabbled and quarreld over nothing but why this why that.....

heres my 2 cent, angel has a reason for locking that thread learn to respect her wishes its her business to lock it not yours not anyones!!!

momof2 do urself a favor leave these questionable threads alone shes asked it to be deleted so respect that and leave it alone simple said simple done don t go on whining abt it.

and ladies shush u dont have a reason to explain yourself but you and your god, we re not going to bow down to the poeple who demands to know why....

mods IMO u shld have deleted this thread after ur 3rd comment when u explained ur reasons why and locked it and not let this go on and on cuz its aggvravting poeple simle said simple done. we could open a suggestion box abt the certain sticky issues and then compromise in that thread but dont go letting members trash other members like this and letting each other be belittled! and rules basically says dont go bashing each other and yet there still is bashing... but thats another thread...

time for this to be locked period thats where i stand, *walking away*

 

[Angel]

*Sigh*

Thank you RR for keeping this thread open, I thought I would like to hear what others say about the abortion thread I created, I guess I got my answer....

Thanks ADers!

Mods you can now lock it....I'm done with what I have to say...

 

[highlands]

*Sigh*

Thank you RR for keeping this thread open, I thought I would like to hear what others say about the abortion thread I created, I guess I got my answer....

Thanks ADers!

Mods you can now lock it....I'm done with what I have to say...

Have happy days, Angel

 

[Momoftwo]

Momof2 -

You still dont get my point. You state that youve never had an abortion - how can you say you know all about them?

The baby that died was the result of a rape - a very vicious rape. The reason I did not know I was pregnant until it was too far along, just before it died, was because I was still swollen and bleeding from the rape. If I had known, I might have had the abortion earlier. I will never know because I did not know it then. As it was, I made the decision to go through it to full term and give it up for adoption, as I did for an earlier pregnacy. It just did not happen according to plan, and I had to go ahead and abort it due to the death of the fetus.

I do not have any regret, but I do know in a way how that young girl felt - she WAS not allowed to make the decision for herself. Another one was there for the same reason - she was raped and did not want to have to go on with the pregnancy. Another woman was there because her ex-boyfriend was very abusive and had already done severe damage to the fetus.

Those, and many others, it would break your heart to hear them. Not all women are idiots like who you have described - there was indeed one woman there that admitted that she got drunk one night and got knocked up - the reason she was there was because she found that the fetus had a deformity that would have killed it upon birth and she didnt want it to suffer the pain it might have felt then. I do know that woman, I do see her from time to time, and while we do not talk about it, she has told me that while she was sad about making the choice, she did not regret having to do it. She already had two boys from an earlier marriage and a little girl from a current boyfriend and shes happy with what she has.

My earlier pregnancy? I was an idiot in high school, also, and gave up the baby for adoption upon birth. I do not have any regrets there, either. I CHOSE the family that adopted her - and I know she is happy. And yes, I got pregnant later on - another rape. I miscarried the fetus and it developed into uterus cancer. I am now in remission, thank the good Lord for that.

Momof2, unless you have had one for real, please do not say you know all about abortions - you need to talk more with other women and find out why they did this or that - you will be very surprised at the wide range of answers and emotions.

You need to turn that attitude into a listening ear - or seeing eyes, whichever you prefer. Hear their stories. Many will just make you cry. Many will make you cringe. You will learn. Oh yes, you will learn. Big time.

As for Cheri, you will have to learn how to ask her. She will tell you. You will realize that there is indeed a different story there.

Momof2, I dare you. I dare you to open your heart and listen to our stories. Walk in our shoes for a mile and learn the what and why behind our choices. I dare you. You will learn more than you thought you knew.

I am sorry that you are really angry. I am not going to discuss with you because you got it wrong that you assumed from what you said to me. I leave you some spaces to cool you down. I am very sorry that your experience was so horrible that you have to deal with. Wish you good luck.

 

[Momoftwo]

OK i sat back here watching u all squabbled and quarreld over nothing but why this why that.....

heres my 2 cent, angel has a reason for locking that thread learn to respect her wishes its her business to lock it not yours not anyones!!!

momof2 do urself a favor leave these questionable threads alone shes asked it to be deleted so respect that and leave it alone simple said simple done don t go on whining abt it.

and ladies shush u dont have a reason to explain yourself but you and your god, we re not going to bow down to the poeple who demands to know why....

mods IMO u shld have deleted this thread after ur 3rd comment when u explained ur reasons why and locked it and not let this go on and on cuz its aggvravting poeple simle said simple done. we could open a suggestion box abt the certain sticky issues and then compromise in that thread but dont go letting members trash other members like this and letting each other be belittled! and rules basically says dont go bashing each other and yet there still is bashing... but thats another thread...

time for this to be locked period thats where i stand, *walking away*

Javapride-

I was NOT whining about this. You know what...you are NOT very friendly! And YOU MUST not say a word to me because you were very rude to me because you are on DeafDream's side. No one should be on someone's sides. So, you stay out of this situation. And LET deafdream say something to me by herself instead of many people who are on her side. That's NOT very nice.

Again, you stay out of this!

Thank you!

 

[Momoftwo]

Mom of 2- u dont get it cuz you never expreince it and your nose is in the bible and i am not sure which page ur on!!! let these lady express or give their own opioions and DD is right there are Millions of reason to abortions not jsut careless.

Oakley-

You too stay out of it. Let deafdream to say something.