What do you think

[Liebling:-)))]

Just for drawing a picture of "gun"? That is very stupid reason I ever heard.. Being honestly..

*nodding agreement*

I was like *scratch my head* after read this article...

I know it's legal for Americans to own the guns in their house or carry thier gun everywhere. Right? but drawing harmless gun on that picture...? Is it illegal to draw the gun ?

 

[Angel]

Is it illegal to draw the gun ?

No, but at school yes...

 

[Reba]

*nodding agreement*

I was like *scratch my head* after read this article...

I know it's legal for Americans to own the guns in their house or carry thier gun everywhere. Right? but drawing harmless gun on that picture...? Is it illegal to draw the gun ?

We can't carry our guns "everywhere".

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yup you are right. I find this ridiculous. I mean, really silly. They will feel this is NOT " America " anymore such as freedom country, because of all this.

*nodding sadly*

It's really sad that innoncent children do not allow to express their freedom. What if a boy become to be a great artist? Perhap gun model artist? The people who suffer paraniod is the one who need professional help. Why do they see that gun as negative way and think he will become a killer or whatever. Gun itself do not kill everyone but human. What a paraniod...

Same thing about givin' hugs, or kisses or little things... they will be suspended as well just for that, no matter how misunderstandin' they are and they will be givin' an account for it --- aaand, even small children, too. How sad ! Of course, I opposed to their ideas.

I can image what if a boy draw nude body - would he being accused as a sexual offender or predator and call CPS to take him away and put their parents jail?

 

[Angel]

We can't carry our guns "everywhere".

I forgot to add that quote but you already answered it LOL

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No, but at school yes...

but I don't agree that the suspension was the right punishment. They should explain to him instead harshly punish on him.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

We can't carry our guns "everywhere".

I have read and share my post in debate threads in the past that they stated that they are allow to carry the gun to the public in their own state but I cannot remember which states.

 

[Angel]

but I don't agree that the suspension was the right punishment. They should explain to him instead harshly punish on him.

Right I don't agree with what the school did either...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

We can't carry our guns "everywhere".

Oh yes, I forget to add...

No matter either you own gun in the house or carry the gun to the public (depend on different states about public gun) is legal but drawing the gun? GUN???

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No, but at school yes...

No wonder why more and more parents are for homeschooling or private school on their children.

My youngest son draw harmless guns and swords... It is likely artist... It doesn't bother his teacher because she know the difference between harmless and aggressive drawing.

We can tell in aggressive way of drawing and use miserable color on the picture but just harmless gun as "artist" way...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Is it ok for a child to draw something like this?

yeah.... :roll:


I am wondering is it okay for the children to draw nude?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Exactly! :roll: It's only a paper and drawing. Guns are simple everywhere, in the cartoons for children, probably their parents own the guns, they see the soliders having the guns, the polices, etc etc etc. They are learning about the world, THAT is why they draw such like what they are thinking about.

If they draw like the violence or nudity or whatever inapproiately, then I understand, but gun is not one of them. Gun is just a material, it doesn't affect anything such like violence in the imaginary, all the imaginary of the drawing a picture of gun is the gun in the imaginary, that's it.

It's just my opinion..

Yes I second that.

Teach children in positive way what the gun is about.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I'm not surprised to see this happened since this isn't the first time I've heard of this , more and more schools are doing this by suspending or expelling students for any violation of weapons or drugs regulations that inculdes drawing any type of weapons etc. on a piece of paper or anything that violate the school's policy....


I remember one story about a mother who put a small knife in her daughter's lunch box to cut an apple and the school then expelled the girl....

Another story about a 3rd grade student showed his classmate a gun shaped charm necklace that he wored to school that day and he was suspended for bring it to school...

Another one that similar to this story here, where a 9 years old boy was suspended for drawing a picture of a gun on a piece of paper at school...

And somewhere in Virginia, eight students were suspended for one week after they were caught sniffing Kool-Aid at school...

I could go on and on with a bunch of ridiculous stories that most of the students has done that cause them to get suspeneded or expelled from school, now speaking of freedom of speech, since when we are allow to have freedom of speech?....It's has been going on for years, there s no such a freedom of speech here in America or anywhere for that matter....Schools are going to contiune to suspend or expel students from school even if it something so small...They take every little thing seriously...I have to keep telling my 7 years old child who is in 2nd grade to be careful what you bring to school or what you are drawing on a piece of paper because no matter whether it something bad or good, it can get you in trouble...

*nodding sadly* I would like to add on your comment... I remember from read the article from website last month that a student suspend from school because he spoke into Spanish with other Student. I was like I will add the link later when I find.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I see where you are coming from, Cheri. If this was a sign of other problems the student was having, then the school system certainly needs to do what is neccessary to protect the other students. But, if this was sign of bigger problems for this student, I don't think suspension is the answer. Just putting a child out of school for 5 days won't deal with his problems. They need to make sure that he is provided help with his problems. Suspension does nothing to do that. So jsut suspending him odesn't protect the other kids, either. Once the suspension is up, he is right back in school with the same problems that created his behavior in the first place. I think that they have either given too strict a punishment for a student that meant no harm, or if his behavior was really a threat, they have not dealt with it in a way that will protect the other students or get himthe help he needs. Wither way, the suspension was the wrong move.

I think principal and teachers need the professional help to control their paraniod and emotional problems.

 

[Cheri]

I see where you are coming from, Cheri. If this was a sign of other problems the student was having, then the school system certainly needs to do what is neccessary to protect the other students. But, if this was sign of bigger problems for this student, I don't think suspension is the answer. .

I totally agreed that suspension is not the answer because it can lead a kid to act out in revenge.

I think it scares parents nowadays after hearing school shooting appears to happen without noticed, and sending their child to a school, getting an education, may end up having to bury a child, that's parents worst nightmare. You know there are a higher amount of number of children being shot every year not only in school, not by only other kids, but by adults as well.

So honestly, I can't blame the school Administrators for stepping up the plate, but expelling or suspending kids from school doesn't solve anything, it would just only make the issue worst than it already is.

Everyone seems to have good points here.

 

[Cheri]

Is it ok for a child to draw something like this?

In my opinion, I don't see any harm in that picture. I have no idea what that kid had drew if the drawing wasn't shown to the public.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

In my opinion, I don't see any harm in that picture. I have no idea what that kid had drew if the drawing wasn't shown to the public.

I got that picture from the link, I provided at my post #19 today.

 

[Cheri]

I got that picture from the link, I provided at my post #19 today.

Oh my bad, I must have missed that, I dunno what to think of this drawing, I'm kinda in the middle.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Oh my bad, I must have missed that, I dunno what to think of this drawing, I'm kinda in the middle.

What I do think of this drawing is harmless!!! It's just artist...

but you can tell it's aggressive/volience if the children draw the example like this... not just that picture... many example in aggressive and voilent way... if he draw the gun to human or pet or whatever in aggressive way... then he need a help instead of punish him.

this is only example... (drawing in aggressive way...)

http://www.socialfiction.org/img/scribblebaby1.jpg

 

[Cheri]

What I do think of this drawing is harmless!!! It's just artist...

That's your opinion hun, I'm not saying you're wrong to think it's harmless.

I don't know what to think about this picture like I said I'm in the middle of "it's wrong" and "it's harmless" We just don't know the state of mind based on a drawing of a gun made by the kid. What the kid thinking while drawing that picture, that's my point.